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Todays staffords it's a shame

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by dogman2007, Dec 13, 2010.

  1. Bluedog

    Bluedog Big Dog

    Agreed. Kennel clubs RUIN BREEDS. PLAIN AND SIMPLE!
     
  2. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

     
  3. 7mmrowland

    7mmrowland Big Dog

    they better get thicker skin or go join a forum were ya gotta pay 1st and feeling count!!!
     
  4. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    more than thick skin, i think is better if they shut their piehole and listen, they might learn something from few good souls on here. I have learnt a thing or two, but that show/teddybear mentality of few amazes me.
     
  5. 7mmrowland

    7mmrowland Big Dog

    Theres a saying "you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink".
    Dehydration sucks! LOL
     
  6. Herodog1

    Herodog1 Top Dog

     
  7. KingFisher.

    KingFisher. Big Dog

    your banging your heads against the wall guys lol.
     
  8. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    staffs are a show dog from the 1930s, till some started matching them in the late 1970s, there is no working line between the 1930s till the 1970s, 40+ years of breeding for show standard...
     
  9. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    This is not really 100% correct. The Staffs where imported to Ireland from the UK in the 1950´s and imediatelly started to participate in the Teastas Mor trials. It is also rumoured that they occsionally matched dogs into each other at the side.
     
  10. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    is your conviction based on those pooches you posted pics on the stack thread?
    if I, like you, I am entitled to have an opinion based on pics and your past posts, I would say I would look myself in the mirror before I critique other dogs first.
    going by looks those dogs you posted pics of can make any man bang their heads pretty hard against the wall, although i'm more than conviced those dogs are worth feeding before your eyes, do you see the coincidence here? it's reciprocal to say the least
     
  11. Ain't that the truth, I walk one of those KC bred things...and he's good to walk etc, but he's not...a staffy if you get me.
     
  12. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    that might be true but in ireland just like the rest in uk, 99.99% of staffords, ware bred for show, pets, color, make some money, very few till the late 70s/early 80s ware bred for gameness ...after 40+ years being bred for show standard..they are a show dog that some people decided to try resurrect to the dog they ware before being recognized by the kc..but they are a show dog
     
  13. KingFisher.

    KingFisher. Big Dog

    your one deep guy! im just saying that a staff is not everyones cup of t and when pushed hard enough will stop on all fours bar the odd few, as there are game bred dogs that will too but we know the % that wont is higher with real dogs and as staffs are your thing dogmen are just wasting their time arguing their point with you as your clearly lost and confused by being on the wrong forum, as for those dogs i posted i totaly agree with you what piles of shit they were lol! its just i thought they whipped into shape pretty good as you know thats the case with most bull breed mutts. peace shotgun.......
     
  14. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    same goes for you beloved apbt, their numbers are decreasing as well. lost and confused? you are the one arguing staffords arent worth a penny. you think you are talking to highchooler, i also had good bulldogs, hence why i get to compare them, as a matter of fact i have access to bulldog blood many dont have the previledge, instead i stay and prefer the staffords you aint got a clue about. back to you jellybean
     
  15. OnTheRocks

    OnTheRocks Moderator

    When we debate gamebred animals we have to debate based on gamebred families! We can not talk about game bred APBT´s either and take the non gamebred dogs into the consideration. I would say that a majority of the APBT´s are not gamebred either, most are also bred for show, colour, pedigrees and whatever reassons.
     
  16. jacko

    jacko CH Dog

    is this a fact ?
    are you saying that as soon as the dogs became a reccognised breed in 35 that ALL matching of staffords ceased until the late 70s , can you back this up ??
     
  17. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    can you show it the other way round that people ware matching the staffs between the 1930s to 1970s, show me one recognized line that YOU can prove its has been tested, all pure staffs come from well known show dogs and these people who showed these dogs never did anything with them other than show them...dog fighting had died out before the 1930s,
     
  18. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    not disputing that a high percent of APBTs are bred for colour, fancy pedigrees, big heads etc, but if you wanted ,you can still seek out many good kennels and breeders who have REAL game bred APBTs,..all Im saying staffs have been a show dog with no kennels or breeders checking their stock since the 1930s, till there was a new interest (world wide) in the 1970s, then people took a look at the stffords, so all im saying is 40+ years of show dogs ...all lines of game staffords started in the British isles in the 1970s
     
  19. jacko

    jacko CH Dog

    for one "rapparee" were show and go from the 60s.
    and you are assuming that people who showed their dogs never worked them. and no i will not mention any names. any how who says that all KC registered dogs are/were show dogs, it"s just a registry which can help prove a dogs ancestory.
     
  20. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    the Raparee line is pure show dogs ..totally untested, that kennels never did anything but show dogs..i know kc is just a registry ...but please show me a line thats being tested...twix 1930-1970.. there is none..
     

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