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...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI...

Discussion in 'The Dogs' started by ELIAS'PISTOLA, Apr 18, 2016.

  1. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    You mean how I countered your twist on and off lap links with my local hear say? LMAO....Or did you mean how I countered your "Emills are DANGEROUS", with my local hear say? LMAOROTF.

    Actually he most likely been crying ever since people been catching him on all his bullshit. LMAO
     
  2. Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    If anyone is interested in this Line and looking to purchase it, DO NOT PURCHASE OFF PIERO AKA IMPERIOS KENNELS!!!

    He took over 10k off me and didn't sent me a thank you card never mind a dog! He was just full of excuses and bullshit!!

    On another note, I hear the invicto stuff is genuine good stuff.


    ILL SAY IT AGAIN, DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH IMPERIOS KENNELS OF PERU!!!
     
  3. Stratman

    Stratman Big Dog

  4. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    I agree to a certian extent,,,
    some are dogmen and come to the internet to feed their different needs,,,
    maybe ritired with a itch or some come to learn...

    others become dogmen on the internet and ride the fence about becoming a real dogman,,,
    they show everything they have for approval and acceptance but overlook that real dogmen that are active
    would be dumb to post on the net...

    I have a couple dogs and gave my yard away years ago,,,
    a combo of withdrawals,,, learning and bouncing ideas off each other is the reason I post...

    some come for attention and cant help but post their life in detail,,,
    others come to counter everyone with out any real base they can share,,,
    I come to call BS...
     
  5. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    I heard the first group were satisfied and vouched for them and than tthe second coming were having issues,,,
    seems like the end of imperios peddling as your are not the only to be looking for them...

    sounds like how southern kennels did alot of folks there at the end of their run,,,
    hard to trust a south american mill and thanks for sharing your experiences for others to learn...

    Good luck in your future endevors and try the hand to hand exchange if you dont trust or know them well...
     
  6. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    "Ive never been on pedsonlines forum and you cant share anything "............. EP your whole post is cut and paste out of a magizene lol Thats just what Your wanting ass is trying to get into a internet refrence post contest....... "figured you cant share a single place online that states arty was a 2xer" BB didnt have to becuase everyone who knew the dog knew the deal.And truth be told it has been talked about on here years ago lol
     
  7. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    ...BB please find where i cut and pasted that article that SEF wrote as I hand typed it myself...

    ...I bet you cant find this article anywhere on the net but this site where I typed it...

    ...Show me one place on the net that states arty or his son buford are 2x winners besides my shares???

    ...you cant so move on...

    Histories Percentages

    or this one,,, any where on the net besides here from me???

    REAL HISTORY OF A LVING LEGEND (reprint)

    or find this one on the net BB,,, anywhere??? besides here from me hand typed...

    ...The saga of LIGHTNIN' BILLY...

    I guarantee you there are at least a half dozen threads hand typed from vintage magizines I borrowed
    and shared on this site...

    Why are you trying to say diferent with out any proof???
    What you heard from someone who scoopes shit is different from the one who dishes it...

    please move on or prove me wrong,,,
    at the very least do you have any experience with any bolio dogs or crosses???

    you brought up ypur thoughts on arty and if readers want they can look into it for themselves,,,
    mr boudraeux and mrhhargroves adressed or phone numbers havnt changed in some years,,,
    ask them their thoughts and ask yourself who you would believe as they have no reason to lie and take a win away from arty as they both thought highly of him and his producing abilities...
     
  8. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

  9. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    Spooky was a really bad bitch. Scratched funny but she snapped bones like they were hollow
     
  10. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    Heard about the Spooky bitch. Never saw her but heard only good things.


    The OIAK Early male was the exact opposite. Could not bust an egg. Barely enough mouth to defend himself. One of the very, very few dogs off of Kasai that could not really shut it down. All his littermates could really close their mouth.


    What Early did have was freak pound for pound strength, coupled with length. He had enough ability and more than enough strength to get where he wanted and simply stay there. That happened to be right between the eyes until forever.


    S
     
  11. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    That Ch Katie looks unbelievable...your right Elias...WOW!
     
  12. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    She had that Kasai mouth you like a lot. She'd sometimes do this full circle spin in the corner and then scratch which was weird but she was one wicked bitin bitch. Her last time out she ended up being counted out lot of people there say she was deep in shock but Showtime thought she could've went and just didn't. Culled her.
     
  13. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    I never heard that part. It happens.


    S
     
  14. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    Again Naustroms and Slim,,, thank you for the exchange I was looking for and learning from...

    I like when my posts provoke calls from old friends that read this...

    I might not be able to have such a complete conversation and observation on the phone and miss some objectives sometimes that writing and ralaying instills in me...

    So a friend whom hardly posts,,, so he must be a smart friend lol,,,
    calls and says I know where your are going with this thread...

    I ask what and he says,,,
    well we had amboss sister and half sister off anton,,,
    we had comando off comander from the invicto blood,,,
    first hand experinece with the hot dog and rabbit blood,,,
    and yes a big litter of game SENDAI dogs might have made it through the camp...

    Yeah I say,,,
    he says you know damn well that that sendai shit never produced anything...

    I laughed and said you are right,,, the SENDAI dogs get no recognition for anything to me...
    Not a single champion,,, or even three one time winners in three generations...

    It provoked a couple diffeernt ideas to why,,,
    with the ones we are fimilar with seems it was breed for blood and not the quality of the individuals being bred,,,
    also something I believe in is...

    1.an individual that POSSES ABILITY
    2. an individual that PASSES ABILITY

    One carries the family and the other makes a name for it,,,
    but if that gr ch cant pass the genes the family peaks and is on the down slope...

    To me a family is about finding the next dog that passes the ability,,, not carries it...
    If you get both you are in buisness but is rare...

    Studying TDKs pedigrees and philosophy helped teach me this as what evolved is what was passed,,,
    you notice pedigrees riddled with a famous dog but no winners as none passed those qualities...

    It seems ideal to want the dog thats producing as opposed to the ch brother thats throwing duds...

    Out of all the different modern BOLIO facets mentioned,,,
    It is obvious that the RICK RUDE/TOOTHLESS JACK dogs are a SUPERIOR BOLIO LINE...

    and to me the SENDAI line dropped the BATON...
     
  15. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [7877] :: PATRICK'S LEO SON (SENDAI)
    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [158128] :: TEAMER'S CAPONE
    SENDAI aka LEO SAN did produce this bitch that bred true to the family...
    I remember when the milkman was selling Pet Sparks old place that he aquired,,,
    alot of history there and great dogs from both Mr Sparks and the milkman...
    It was also where that interview was filmed,,, Mr Sparks had to have documented more matches than anyone ever,,, and he took his Hunky dog to cuba and beat a cuban champion in the fifties...


    I must say I like the brindle bolio dogs from homer,,, but the SENDAI dogs seem to lack something...


    Another notable BOLIO stud was BINGO,,, not as famous as the late Mr Bailey,,,
    But the late Mr Brakes sure put together some good dogs in a few breedings from BINGO ex LITTLE BIT...


    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [232675] :: BRAKE'S LOOK OUT SAM

    I lived in this area and tried to get a daughter of renegade bred to sam as I felt x mens barbarian
    was a great cross and wildside overlooked breeding Mr Hollingsworths dogs to their ELi bred dogs...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [317700] :: XMEN CH BARBARIAN/W PIC/

    I dont know why the yellow dogs,,, alot of the hollingsworth dogs and mayday dogs look so houndish,,,
    and are all known for being durable game lines separate and together...

    I would say the Hollingsworth dogs seem to produce more tombstone phenotypes,,,
    thick strong durable and game dogs...

    I also wouldnt rule out either Mr Hollingsworth or tant not letting thier old hound passion slip into a breeding,,,
    rather accidental or on purpose,,, and if you think I am absurd you might have to move to the carolinas...

    thats another storey,,, But Mr.Brakes and his super producer LITTLE BIT deserve great recognition...

    Sam was line bred Homer meaning top and bottom and he sure carried that homer phenotype...
    His brothers were also good to great bulldogs...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [261886] :: BRAKE'S ADAM
    Adam as Mr.Brakes called him or ch AIME as he was known locally was known for one thing,,,
    they called him the foot doctor for a reason...

    AIME looked more like the Hollingsworth phenotype,,,
    thick and strong like his gramps Barbarian and his cousin Mayday...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [264458] :: BRAKE'S TRAP DOOR
    the other brother was also rich in name sake,,, one way in and no way out...
    he looked the basic bolio phenotype to me,,, red black nose and similar build...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [264458] :: BRAKE'S TRAP DOOR
    yet another fourth brother Sinclair was no slouch,,, not brindle but he looked alot like the homer dogs to me...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [191127] :: <B>BRAKE'S LONG HAUL
    Mr.Brakes named him LONG HAUL and JR Maffia camaigned him as CH BOLO,,,
    very sound dog and my second pick out LITTLE BIT ,,, SAM being the first...

    As far as looks BOLO looked alot like the black dogs down from TOOTHLESS JACK...

    What a fine bolio tombstone family Mr.Brakes put together,,,
    the only real out being wildsides bandit makes for some pre potent bolio blood...



    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [459120] :: EL PADRINO'S SUPER BOLITA

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [379875] :: ''WE THE BEST KENNELS'' ''2X LUNATIC''

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [358389] :: COUNTRYBOY'S RED <B>

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [266376] :: <B>COUNTRYBOY'S RED

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [196041] :: DONNIE'S BLACK
    a nice breeding with two great champions from junior mafia kennels and the cross I was looking for...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [222803] :: <B/>ROCK HARD KENNEL'S STORM (1XGL)
    a perfect looking bolio phenotype to me...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [126143] :: JOE'S AIME JR. (AKA A.J.) 1XW

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [366328] :: <FONT COLOR=GREEN>POLLOCK'S SAMANTHA (1XW)

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [189433] :: <FONT COLOR=RED>BLACK OPPS - <FONT COLOR=GREEN>BABY GIRL

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [257608] :: GOLDIE GIRL

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [345552] :: BRITT'S MINGO

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [128690] :: NDK'S 2XWER HARD DRIVE

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [424468] :: CH. ANGEL

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [247477] :: HOUNDDOG'S LEFT EYE

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [530295] :: SCOTT'S LIL RED 1X
    for those who come to rock,,, we salute you...
     
  16. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    When Bolo made champion it was a really good show. I heard Bolo was a much better dog in 1 and 2, but I think he was like 5 or older for #3. He looked good to be 5/6.


    The Country Boys Red female was a good one I heard. I never saw her shows but heard good things. Her mom was a beast packed in a 32-33lb box. On the end of a lead you would think there was a 50lb dog on the other end. Plain freak strong.


    A hard mouth with small teeth but it cut like razors. A minute or so in a spot and it would look like a Husqavarna had been there.


    Double R and Miss Petey (Kasai/Medlin Outlaw female) was as good a schooling for 25 minutes as any would ever want to see. 5 more minutes and neither would have had much of a future left. Plain brutal.


    I missed out on dogs from this litter. I simply did not have room.


    S
     
  17. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    Miss Petey was littermate to the posted OIAK's Early. I kept a lot of dogs back then and when Early was made available I did not have room. Hindsight says I should have made room.


    Petey was opposite of Early and more in tune with what we were seeing from Kasai. Freak strong dogs, just enough brains to get where they wanted to be and when they got there, it was a rough go for the other guy. Petey was a little light in the brains department and would hunt a spot, sometimes taking a pounding in order to get there. When she got there the fat lady was warming up her vocals.


    She was hooked twice. Missed her weight the first time, called her at 33, and she was a freak at 29. I paid the forfeit instead of pushing the weight or even carrying the weight. Second time we lost the spot the a few days before due to some legal issues. We both agreed to take a pass, tried to get together but it never happened.


    Early and Petey was from an all game litter. Birdman was way ahead when they were ran in on. Never to be seen again.


    Bonkus was maybe the baddest of them all.


    Early won 2 and I lost track of him.


    Bang went to a pet home, came back, lost game to a murderer/eventual champion.


    The other female was never did but a real good one met their demise when they got off the chain and chose her as a dancing partner.




    That was one of my favorite Kasai breedings. Slightly behind the breeding to Fat Bill's Miss Two Eyes which threw the Cornbread dog and his sister Chloe.


    S
     
  18. black357

    black357 Pup

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    Same thing here bought a dog ever sent paper work sent money for another dog never got the dog so know I have a bitch with no paper work and took a lost money on a dog that never came ... Crooks
     
  19. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    Well if you got fooled once shame on them, but you got fooled twice, that second one was your fault
     
  20. promoe

    promoe Top Dog

    Re: ...Patricks INVICTO,,, Patricks HOT DOG,,, Patricks RICK RUDE & Patricks SENDAI..

    I just read thru this thread....1st of all EP "holy shit that's a lot of peds and quotations" I know you catch some flack about being a ped warrior but I think the breed is your passion and admire you for being game for scratching back. I am not a fan of the bolio based bloodlines but, have seen some really nice animals from the Midwest to South of the border. I don't want to sound like an asshole but the heaviest bolio bred dog I own/ed is my housepet. She couldn't whip her way thru a wet paperbag and I don't trust her around other ppl. But if it was a scratching contest I would bet the house!
    On the topic of the thread... The best I have personally seen were down off of CTKs T-Bone and those were crosses. A friend of mine just culled all his Invicto stuff as they didn't have what it takes down here. Where p.e.d.s are bought OTC. Not that it matters but its tougher to win races nowadays, you need more than 40mins @ 110mph .
     

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