need information on puppy strangles

could anyone post information on this and treatments that needed to take care of it.

 

It is shingles. Strangles is when you choke something.

 

thanks for the correction that is how she spelled it when she emailed me.

 

Here is some information on strangles. The first is acutally an article on strangles in horses and foals (better explanation), and the second is how it relates to our canine friends. It is strange that you ask about this as we were advised by our vet last week that there has been an outbreak of this recently, best of luck.


http://www.animalforum.com/hstrangles.htm

http://www.vetinfo.com/dstrangles.html

 

Well I'll be. it is strangles. Never seen it in a dog. my lesson for today. Thanks GAPITS.

 

Got a question It didn,t say anything about how it was treated and if it can be treated. and should this be a reason to cull it from the litter.

this cought my attention

The tendency towards demodecosis seems to be induced by a lack of a specific T-cell line. The tendency towards juvenile cellulitis may be due to a deficiency in lymphocyte blastogenesis

 

Ok...strangles....shingles

never heard of either, but thank you GAPITS for posting those threads, now I know what strangles are...

Now what are shingles?

 

I understand the last part. What seems to be being explained is a type of cancer. Lymphoma is what I believe it would be in humans. Celluitis is inflamation of the cells in that area. I wonder what deficiency is causing the lymphocyte blastonenesis. If it is T-cell deficiency then cancer is it's likly cause. I don't see where treating it would be of much help to you in that case as they wouldn't be of any good stock ever.

If it is cancer I would say that the dogs must be culled.

 

Shingles is a form of herpes that attacks the nerve endings. A neurocyte disorder caused from a strain of herpes. gross stuff.

 

Take the pup to the vet. That's how you treat it.

Your pup can die from this.

 

Juvenile Pyoderma/Cellulitus aka Puppy Strangles

Most common cause is a bacterial infection of the skin. I treated a pup with this problem. We used an antibiotic for the skin infection (sorry, can't remember which one) and oatmeal baths 3-5 times a day to help with the skin lesions. Treatment lasts up to 30 days, it should be treated until at least a week after all lesions have disappeared.

The reason it's called strangles is that the lymph nodes may swell considerably and strangle the pup.

Before treatment.....



A couple of months after treatment....



And a couple of months later....



http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/index.jsp?cfile=htm/bc/70900.htm


First-time bacterial pyoderma can be treated with empiric antibiotic therapy such as lincomycin, clindamycin, erythromycin, trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole, trimethoprim-sulfadiazine, chloramphenicol, cephalosporins, amoxicillin trihydrate-clavulanic acid, or ormetoprim-sulfadimethoxine.

Hope this helps

 

Ok knowing that it can be treated. My next question is is it genetically in hearated. I want to know weather this dog would be worth taking in or not. Will it come out in its offspring in the future. Talked to the vet this morning and they said they can treat it for less than $100 which I didn,t think was so bad.

 

It should be treated regardless.

As for it being genetic in nature, from what I understand, vets are divided.

For example, Dr. Tim Dietrick says about strangles, "The exact cause of puppy strangles is unknown, but an inherited immune dysfunction is highly suspected."

Dr. Richard Lawrence says "The cause is unknown, though there is some evidence the disease is inherited."

Then you have Dr. Mike Richards who says: "I can not find any indication that juvenile cellulitis (puppy strangles) has been proven to have a genetic component."

But Dr. Richards then goes on to say that just b/c he couldn't find a genetic component it doesn't mean there isn't one there.

Maybe Mia can help??

 

WOW...thanks, yea I would say that is pretty gross.....interesting, but nasty

 

After reading all of this I wonder if that is what happened to Envy. Can it happen to older dogs or just pups? What else so yall know about puppy strangles? I am gonna do some research on this too. I would hate to think I put my dog down for the wrong reason. All the signs sound like this. Even the places where the hair wont grow back. It really sounds too much like her condition.

 

shingles is not herpies..silly

anyone that has had chicken pox can get shingles, it the same virus.. so if you had chicken pox as a kid (or adult) if your immune system gets out of wack, then the virus can flare up again, in the form of shingles. it comes up on the muscle bands, normally on the stomach, back, and sometimes the face. it is a rash that blisters up, you are contagious for 2 weeks till all the blisters are gone. the contagious part means, if someone has not had chicken pox, and you get around them while the blisters are still opened up/comming up, then you can give them chicken pox.

the treatment is high dose steriods and antiviral meds (now the antiviral is the same as what is given for herpies, valtrax i think it is.)

shingles is mainly an older person illness, but cases in young people have been reported.

you are usually cleared up in a few weeks/months time. if you take the antivirals, and steriods.