Solid Gold

I tried the Canidae for a good long time and out of 8 dogs 3 did great on it but the other five did not... AKA lost muscle mass so much I had to do something I switched all my dogs to timber wolf and they all do VERY well on it... I personally will never feed Canidae again, enough said!

 

I fed Diamond Green bag for 10yrs without any problems, all healthy lives, looked lean and mean. Switched to Canidae 5yrs ago, have had all the dogs on it and they still all look great and are healthy.

I've never had a feed that effected any of my dogs in a negative way. I guess my experience is what Mr.Texas is saying, I havent had any dogs that dont do well on certain feeds or need anything different then the rest of yard.

 

i will co -sign on diff dogs need diff foods. my first dog i tired the solid gold as the first change from Iams and it was horrible tos ay the least, lost weight and was red all over. i forgot which one i fed but i think its the wolf something one. then i switched her to merricks and forget it! she looked absolutely awesome. fast forward, antoher dog i got now did horrible on merricks. had me scared. but does well on canidae. go figure. good luck int he search, but IME solid gold wasnt tht good. she looked better on iams then even better on merricks.

 

Canidae didn't work for me, and all dogs don't react the same to the same food. There are so many varitables......but anyways. I gave Canidae more than a fair chance I fed it exclusively for nearly a year because I bought into the "it's the best" line I got from a couple of there reps. I even fed it when they did the formula change in 05 ( i think? ) and even went back to it with a couple of other dogs to see how they would do on it. I wont feed it again. I feed Natures Variety now after trying about 8 or 10 other high end foods. I switch from the chicken to the beef every couple of months to change things up a bit but thats it. I did feed one of my males Evo in prepping for a show for about 6 months total and he did just as well on the NV so I won'tgo back to it. Feed what ever works for you.

 

Tried Canidae awhile ago, didn't like the results and stopped. Recently, I've given it another shake, and am liking it.

I'm under the impression, the period I stopped feeding it, was when their ingredients were changing and new formulas being added. So long as they keep on top of their QC and keep everything in check, I'm liking it alot for the price.

 

Canidae is superior to NV, has more meat sources and meat meal vs meat. Canidaes meat is weighed before it's cooked (meat meal) vs NV weighing their meat after its cooked (meat)

 

Just for the record, I'm not an idiot.
Well lets not be so hasty in making such a prediction-we haven’t even got through this thread.
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I don't change my dogs' food every 2 weeks like you seem to be assuming I do. The first time I had my dogs on Canidae, it was for a 10 month period. They looked like crap. Then, in light of the recall on DVP's NB, they've been back on Canidae for 3+ months now............& they look like crap. I've since switched to Solid Gold for just a whole week. Whoopeedeedoo. And despite the fact that many are having loose stools, I will continue to feed this same brand for at least 14 more weeks to see the true effects unless I choose otherwise.
I wasn’t assuming anything other than the facts you change kibbles regularly. In roughly 15 months you’ve feed a minimum of 4 kibbles-that’s a lot of switching. What is misleading about your reply and time-frame is the actual time. Prior to me leaving and not posting regularly you weren’t feeding any of the 3 kibbles (Canidae, DVP’s, or Solid Gold) hence the pm’s requesting suggestions from yourself. Now you’ve stated you feed Canidae for 13 months, Solid Gold for 2 weeks…you only fed DVP for 6 weeks? Now the math doesn’t add up, not to mention I’ve all ready stated the time-frame individuals shouldn’t have been feeding Canidae (seems you was in the heart of it). But what makes it all the more unbelievable is for someone that rushes their dog/s to the vets for fecal examines because of the runs…doesn’t seem like the paranoid type that would feed a kibble for 13 months if her dogs were doing so bad on it?
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And when I switched from Canidae to Solid Gold, I did it gradually by incorporating 1-1 bags of each with them being fed a different ratio each day. Just like I do for my horses.
They’re not horses and that’s a waste of time and only the protocol when feeding crap. If you can’t switch a food cold turkey-don’t feed it!

And believe it or not, I DID read through your entire post. However, I feel that if I am going to chance a brand of food involved in all the recalls, I will put my dogs back on DVP's NB (Ultra Premium which was not included in the recall) as they all did very well on that food. I have no good reasons to pay $50+ for a 33 lb bag of food from a company involved in a worldwide recall especially when I will go through a minimum of 2 bags a week easy.<O:p</O:p
Was Nature’s Variety on the recall list…? I don’t know as I don’t keep up with it and could care less about it as it doesn’t affect my dogs. Not sure which kibble you’re referring to with the $50 price tag? Though wonder if not wanting to spend that amount you’d even ponder feeding Timberwolf?

I'm glad Canidae works well for you & I understand you don't believe that different dogs do better on different foods. But in theory if all dogs will do great on Canidae, then please explain why they don't?
Like I’ve mentioned…never had nor seen a dog that didn’t do well on it. Given that’s been about a decade of feeding and seeing dogs fed it that’s a lot of dogs to base my opinion on-not simply a few. Seems the ones with the issues with it are also the ones that are constantly switching or fed it during the first half of 2006. If any dog can’t handle what’s being fed to them and the other’s in the yard…it’s a cull and shown to have inferior genetics. Nobody wants to concern themselves with “X” dog/s needing only “X” kibble and void of “X” ingredients (even more so when talking about someone having a yard full of dogs)…they all get feed the same, out of the same bag. Doesn’t matter if being feed Ole’ Roy, Pedigree, Diamond, Canidae, or anything else. Owners expect them to do just as well as the other dogs in the yard being feed the same kibble. The dogs should be more than capable of handling what’s being thrown in their bowls…even more so when it’s the quality of Canidae.
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And why some of those who don't do well on the food actually do downright poorly?
Genetically inferior, culls, owners freak out in the adjustment period, simply started at a wrong time…take your pick?

 

I appreciate your input, TB. I just disagree & will continue to do so until you show me facts other than "all my dogs in the past decade have done well on it & all the dogs I see do well on it." IMO, you are working with a very small population sample compared to all the APBTs out there.

As for my dogs being genetically inferior & culls, I suggest you take that up with those who bred them/created them: Floyd [Boudreaux], Mike [Norrod], Pat [Patrick], & Tanya from CSP.

Have a good one.

 

anyone feed innova evo?

 

It means Hundeflocken not Hundenflocken. This is a German word. In America really a brand name? In english= dog-flaces.

 

i just wnt everyone to know that timberwolf is made by diamond....you won't find it on the bag or website.....i live within a few miles of the plant here in SC.....pm me and i will tell you how i know.....Thanks..........

 

You are using old info, NV changed theirs up a bit a few months ago. They start with meat meal too and plus the addition of the bio-coating is nice.


http://www.naturesvariety.com/content.lasso?page=1321&-session=naturesvariety:467149610ec5b36543xSx41C6712


for a couple of more bucks a back you can feed the " Instinct"

http://www.naturesvariety.com/content.lasso?page=1404&-session=naturesvariety:467149610ec5b36543xSx41C6712

I did a show condition on a co-own dog using this and I don't think its worth the extra $$ IMHO

 

I appreciate your input, TB. I just disagree & will continue to do so until you show me facts other than "all my dogs in the past decade have done well on it & all the dogs I see do well on it." IMO, you are working with a very small population sample compared to all the APBTs out there.
What specific “facts” would you like? I’ll break it down for you thus far in this thread since you’re not grasping a thing. You came to the board seeking advice on kibble. People gave you their take and experiences with Solid Gold, some even with other kibbles, and Timberwolf. Being the Solid Gold issue was discussed, I simply pointed out the factual differences between Timberwolf and Canidae. So that you could somewhat be an educated consumer. Then asked why you’d go to a lesser quality food that is very similar. Also mentioned Canidae’s ingredient adjustments and such during 2006 incase that was when you tried it and had negative results. I ended it with a recommendation of Nature’s Variety given your past experiences. Yet instead of doing what you asked for and ciphering through the information…you chose to take my reply as me recommending Canidae yet once again you have your information wrong.
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Yet I’m clueless as to why you even made this thread? Seems stupid given you all ready purchased and are feeding said kibble you’re asking about (should have been done prior to switching) then after members have given you feed back on your thread you state you’re going to continue feeding it for another 14 weeks. Why waste board space and members time if all ready set in what you’re going to do, despite whatever feedback and how the dogs are actually handling it? Just more drama you’re bringing to the board. After all you’ve given other advise on kibble…you should be capable of answering your own questions, reading and understanding a dog food label, and looking at the past 3 kibbles your dogs didn’t do well on and finding the common ingredient/s that could be the culprit. If too much trouble; do as you tell other-seek the assistance of a veterinary. Apparently if it’s not a copy and paste job, drama, or using someone else’s post as your own-you’re lost! Wouldn’t be surprised if the information you’re seeking is so that you can “educate” someone else that asked a question about it on another board.<O:p</O:p

You don’t say Einstein! Of course I’m working with a very small population sample…most feed what’s best for their pocket books not the dog. Reason most only state “I feed “X” kibble” and leave it at that…can’t state why it’s good or bad the pro’s and con’s of “X” kibble. Most on this board alone never heard of Innova, Canidae, Timberwolf, Nature’s Variety, Martin’s K9, Dog Lover’s Gold, Natural Planet Organic, DVP’s, BARF, etc a couple of years ago…hell just look at what you fed a few years back. Go back and look at other members and notice the crap they used to feed and believed was “good”. So it’s not rocket science to figure out the number would be low and will always be. If I was seeking a high number I’d of chosen Ole’ Roy, Purina, or Diamond as that’s what the majority feed. Yet those “low numbers” are still ten folds more than your experience.

As for my dogs being genetically inferior & culls, I suggest you take that up with those who bred them/created them: Floyd [Boudreaux], Mike [Norrod], Pat [Patrick], & Tanya from CSP.
Why would I contact them when you’re the one with the issue, dogs, and seeking help via a message board? Obviously they’re not on it seeking help-you are! Their dogs apparently are doing just fine with the kibble they chose to feed them…an it’s no where near the quality of anything you’ve mentioned. But it’s just like I mentioned-all the same, those that don’t/can’t handle it move on. You got a problem with their dogs that you purchased from them, sure they’d be more than happy to point you in the right direction. By the way doesn’t buying dogs from “breeders” go against a rescuers ethics?

 

just to let ya knoww timberwolf is not owned by Diamond

 

the post read Diamond MADE Timberwolf, not owned.. I don't know if what the poster is saying is true but alot of dog food manufactures make more than one brand of dog food ..not that they own the brand, but they simply manufacture it in their plants for other companies.. $$$$$

 

Im having a hard time believing someone would act so "enlightened" about dog food. I understand you want to feed your dog good kibble but I dont think its worth having an arguement over. If a certain food works for your dogs..feed it. If not...dont. Its really not that difficult.