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Garner's "Simba"

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by Brandonj01, Nov 24, 2009.

  1. FrankDublin

    FrankDublin CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    everybody says a cur can produce which is true they can produce puppies
    what makes the difference between a good producer and a bad producer

    its the types of folks that gets the pups and what type of practices they use in breeding/working/culling so yeah a cur can become known to be a good producer
    by a good breeding ethics and a stern culling process in place

    nobody ever talks about the work those oldtimers put in to have a family of dogs that throws a high percentage of good dogs

    boy it took a good bit of dedication and vision to know what they wanted from their line
    and what to cull for while not letting the like of a dog be the reason for keeping it in the breeding program
     
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  2. outrightmike

    outrightmike CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    like you said nobody knew its a gamble.your some what right lots will in different circumstances but to know/think they all will is in my op wrong.
     
  3. dogman82

    dogman82 Pup

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    Everythang has a limit.. Weightlifters, race horses,and damn sho bulldogs.

    people say breeding a gamble at times so wat makes the chances of one NOT STOPPIN not one??????
     
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  4. Granite Co.

    Granite Co. Big Dog

  5. outrightmike

    outrightmike CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    he comes from good stock!
     
  6. Granite Co.

    Granite Co. Big Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    I couldnt edit my original post, so here is the rest...

    None of this is first hand knowledge, simply what has been recorded in the history books..

    Some say he was a rank cur while some say he was give to much DEX in the days following the show, which made him come in extremley dehydrated..Whos to say whos right?..

    I guess the reason why some considered him "One of the Elite" (before number 5,that is) is because he literally "disposed" of 4 dogs (including 2 Ch's owned by top dogmen) in quick fashion..That, and the way that he was bred..
    Even the dog that beat him was said to be lucky to survive his meeting with Simba..This dog was later to be known as GrCh.Spanky, and the history books show that his handler was experienced enough to get a handle, which greatly benefieted his dog..
     
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  7. outrightmike

    outrightmike CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    are you sayig having a bad day and quitting are the same.like my boy roy jones 3 fights ago before the fight he was hanging out wasnt seing him runing seeing him with his hunnys and shows up looking comopletly not in it,not ready, had a bad day.did he quit? no he got whuped!come next fight looking like the champ he is and kicked some butt.same thing appls to a dog,he aint ready.and when in a good zone can still loose without quitting.
     
  8. outrightmike

    outrightmike CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    you make a good point a nthing wrong with a quick dog,gets the job done,they still labled him a cur due to the way it works.a dog like that if prouduces has a purpose in the game in my op.
     
  9. DENI

    DENI Pup

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    Hey Websterz, do u have any info on the competition that zoro went into?? My spanish is a lil rusty LOL... pm if u prefer mate.

    Cheers, Deni.
     
  10. Caos

    Caos CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    wow the Biscuit dog was a devastating dog who saw him knows that and yeah you're righ banjo sire and jeep sire both are cur and Bolio dam too she quit so many times that they change her name to Goldie and sold her to CA.many more quit and produce that's call genetic so those who don't like it can do nothing that's a real fact like we saw dogs that some call them aces and dead game that don't produce a simple Ch.
     
  11. preme

    preme CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    caos thank you botton
     
  12. Inter-tel

    Inter-tel Big Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    i often wonder if it were wide open if some theories about breeding and gameness would change.
     
  13. websterz28

    websterz28 Big Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    zorro is about to be bred to a bitch whos dam is a littermate to llantas(haley)...in my opinion its zorros best breeding yet,best of mexicos fastlane al in one...and man does that llantas breeding of yours look beautiful. how old is llantas,some of his offspring look verrry good ...hopefully llantas produces everything he prooved himself to be.
    webster
     
  14. CaesarIsis

    CaesarIsis Top Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    If you disagree with that quote you'd be really surprised who said it, and i believe it is true as well. JMO though

    very well said on your last post c-murda
     
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  15. outrightmike

    outrightmike CH Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    my question is are you saying you disagree,if so why is it a surprised i said it?littel confused on your reason thats all.
     
  16. magnoilaotis

    magnoilaotis Top Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    Were do u draw the line? That is the real ? With limited space I can't afford to feed questionable dogs. I at least need game parents. Mouth and ability are always a plus, but it counts for nothing standing the line. If I had more room I would feed all kinds. Pretty is as pretty does.
     
  17. Re: Garner's "Simba"

    Never called him a cur but I know he was curred in 31 regardless of him running hot he may have disposed of all others but gr ch spanky should be given just credit.
    At the end of the day he will be Ch Simba
     
  18. gameone

    gameone Big Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    Stand the line on top in 31 lmao its all about the money!!!
     
  19. Grabo86

    Grabo86 Big Dog

    Re: Garner's "Simba"

    Well garner said he was his most athletic dog ever at that time. Maybe thats the reason why he was a stud dog.
     

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