The real Staffordshire bull terrier height and weight!

Post pictures or chime in. whats the real weight of a Pure sbt. What should they really look like. 16 INCHES AND 38 POUNDS DONT SEEM CORRECT TO ME. I always had the impression of them being 20 or so pounds . Is this breed standard extinct

 

Sometimes a person looks at a 35 pound dog and thinks it's 20 pounds. I've got a few long skinny rascals that look 35 pound but are closer to 50. Hell I've seen dogs that are even on the scale but looking at them you'd think one outweighed the other by 10 pounds plus


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Breed Standard from The Kennel Club Registry:



A Breed Standard is the guideline which describes the ideal characteristics, temperament and appearance including the correct colour of a breed and ensures that the breed is fit for function. Absolute soundness is essential. Breeders and judges should at all times be careful to avoid obvious conditions or exaggerations which would be detrimental in any way to the health, welfare or soundness of this breed. From time to time certain conditions or exaggerations may be considered to have the potential to affect dogs in some breeds adversely, and judges and breeders are requested to refer to the Breed Watch section of the Kennel Club website here http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/services/public/breed/watch for details of any such current issues. If a feature or quality is desirable it should only be present in the right measure. However if a dog possesses a feature, characteristic or colour described as undesirable or highly undesirable it is strongly recommended that it should not be rewarded in the show ring.

General Appearance

Smooth-coated, well balanced, of great strength for his size. Muscular, active and agile.

Characteristics

Traditionally of indomitable courage and tenacity. Highly intelligent and affectionate especially with children.

Temperament

Bold, fearless and totally reliable.

Head and Skull

Short, deep though with broad skull. Very pronounced cheek muscles, distinct stop, short foreface, nose black.

Eyes

Dark preferred but may bear some relation to coat colour. Round, of medium size, and set to look straight ahead. Eye rims dark.

Ears

Rose or half pricked, not large or heavy. Full, drop or pricked ears highly undesirable.

Mouth

Lips tight and clean. Jaws strong, teeth large, with a perfect, regular and complete scissor bite, i.e. upper teeth closely overlapping lower teeth and set square to the jaws.

Neck

Muscular, rather short, clean in outline gradually widening towards shoulders.

Forequarters

Legs straight and well boned, set rather wide apart, showing no weakness at the pasterns, from which point feet turn out a little. Shoulders well laid back with no looseness at elbow.

Body

Close-coupled, with level topline, wide front, deep brisket, well sprung ribs; muscular and well defined.

Hindquarters

Well muscled, hocks well let down with stifles well bent. Legs parallel when viewed from behind.

Feet

Well padded, strong and of medium size. Nails black in solid coloured dogs.

Tail

Medium length, low-set, tapering to a point and carried rather low. Should not curl much and may be likened to an old-fashioned pump handle.

Gait/Movement

Free, powerful and agile with economy of effort. Legs moving parallel when viewed from front or rear. Discernible drive from hindlegs.

Coat

Smooth, short and close.

Colour

Red, fawn, white, black or blue, or any one of these colours with white. Any shade of brindle or any shade of brindle with white. Black and tan or liver colour highly undesirable.

Size

Desirable height at withers 36-41 cms (14 to 16 ins), these heights being related to the weights. Weight: dogs: 13-17 kgs (28-38 lbs); bitches 11-15.4 kgs.

Faults

Any departure from the foregoing points should be considered a fault and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog and on the dog*s ability to perform its traditional work.

Note

Male animals should have two apparently normal testicles fully descended into the scrotum.

 

STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER STANDARD PER THE UKC


Official UKC Breed Standard
Revised April 15, 2007


The goals and purposes of this breed standard include: to furnish guidelines for breeders who wish to maintain the quality of their breed and to improve it; to advance this breed to a state of similarity throughout the world; and to act as a guide for judges.

Breeders and judges have the responsibility to avoid any conditions or exaggerations that are detrimental to the health, welfare, essence and soundness of this breed, and must take the responsibility to see that these are not perpetuated.

Any departure from the following should be considered a fault, and the seriousness with which the fault should be regarded should be in exact proportion to its degree and its effect upon the health and welfare of the dog and on the dog*s ability to perform its traditional work.

HISTORY

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a descendant of the Bull and Terrier crosses made in Great Britain in the late 1700's. It was given the name "Staffordshire" in reference to an area where it was very popular, to differentiate it from the other Bull and Terrier breeds.

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier was recognized by the United Kennel Club in 1975.

GENERAL APPEARANCE

The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a smooth coated dog that possesses great strength for its size. Although muscular, it is active and agile.

CHARACTERISTICS

This breed has indomitable courage, high intelligence and tenacity. Coupled with its affection for its friends, and children in particular, its quietness and trustworthy stability make it an all-purpose dog.

HEAD

The head is short and deep throughout with a distinct stop.

SKULL - The skull is broad and the cheek muscles are very pronounced.

MUZZLE - the foreface is short, with strong jaws and clean, tight lips.

TEETH - A full complement of strong, white teeth meet in a scissors bite; the outer side of the lower incisors touching the inner side of the upper incisors.

Serious Faults: Badly overshot or undershot bites.

EYES - Dark eyes are preferred, but may bear some relation to coat color. The round, medium size eyes are set on to look straight ahead. Dark eye rims are preferred.

NOSE - The nose is black.

EARS - The rose or half-pricked ears are not large.

Serious Faults: Full drop ear. Full prick ear.

NECK

The muscular, rather short neck is clean in outline and widens gradually toward the shoulders.

FOREQUARTERS

The shoulders are well laid back.

FORELEGS - The straight, well-boned forelegs are set rather far apart at the shoulders, but show no looseness at the elbow. The pasterns are strong, and the feet turn out slightly.

BODY

The body is close-coupled with a broad, deep chest and well-sprung ribs. The loins are fairly light and the topline is level.

HINDQUARTERS

The hindquarters are well-muscled.

HIND LEGS - The stifles are well-bent. The hocks are well let down. The legs are parallel when viewed from behind. Dewclaws are generally removed from the hind legs.

FEET

The strong, medium-sized feet are well padded.

TAIL

The medium-length tail is not docked. It is low-set, carried rather low and tapers to a point. It does not curl much, and may be likened to an old-fashioned pump handle.

Faults: Too long or badly curled tail.

COAT

The short, smooth coat is close to the skin. Neither the coat nor the whiskers are to be trimmed.

COLOR

Acceptable colors include red, fawn, white, black, any shade of brindle, and blue, with or without white.

Serious Faults: Black and tan or liver.

HEIGHT AND WEIGHT

Height, measured at the shoulders, ranges from 14 to 16 inches. Weight ranges are as follows: dogs, 28 to 38 pounds; bitches, 24 to 34 pounds. Weight depends on the height of the individual dog.

GAIT

The free, powerful, agile movement is accomplished with an economy of effort. When viewed from the front or the rear, the legs move parallel. There is a noticeable drive from the hind legs.

DISQUALIFICATIONS

(A dog with a Disqualification must not be considered for placement in a conformation event, and must be reported to UKC.)

Unilateral or bilateral cryptorchid. Viciousness or extreme shyness. Albinism.

 

Official Standard of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier Per The AKC:

General Appearance: The Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a smooth-coated dog. It should be of great strength for its size and, although muscular, should be active and agile.

Size, Proportion, Substance: Height at shoulder - 14 to 16 inches. Weight - Dogs, 28 to 38 pounds; bitches, 24 to 34 pounds, these heights being related to weights. Non-conformity with these limits is a fault. In proportion, the length of back, from withers to tail set, is equal to the distance from withers to ground.

Head: Short, deep through, broad skull, very pronounced cheek muscles, distinct stop, short foreface, black nose. Pink (Dudley) nose to be considered a serious fault.

Eyes - Dark preferable, but may bear some relation to coat color. Round, of medium size, and set to look straight ahead. Light eyes or pink eye rims to be considered a fault, except that where the coat surrounding the eye is white the eye rim may be pink.

Ears - Rose or half-pricked and not large. Full drop or full prick to be considered a serious fault. Mouth - A bite in which the outer side of the lower incisors touches the inner side of the upper incisors. The lips should be tight and clean. The badly undershot or overshot bite is a serious fault.

Neck, Topline, Body: The neck is muscular, rather short, clean in outline and gradually widening toward the shoulders. The body is close coupled, with a level topline, wide front, deep brisket and well sprung ribs being rather light in the loins. The tail is undocked, of medium length, low set, tapering to a point and carried rather low. It should not curl much and may be likened to an old-fashioned pump handle. A tail that is too long or badly curled is a fault.

Forequarters: Legs straight and well boned, set rather far apart, without looseness at the shoulders and showing no weakness at the pasterns, from which point the feet turn out a little. Dewclaws on the forelegs may be removed. The feet should be well padded, strong and of medium size.

Hindquarters: The hindquarters should be well muscled, hocks let down with stifles well bent. Legs should be parallel when viewed from behind. Dewclaws, if any, on the hind legs are generally removed. Feet as in front.

Coat: Smooth, short and close to the skin, not to be trimmed or de-whiskered.

Color: Red, fawn, white, black or blue, or any of these colors with white. Any shade of brindle or any shade of brindle with white. Black-and-tan or liver color to be disqualified.

Gait: Free, powerful and agile with economy of effort. Legs moving parallel when viewed from front or rear. Discernible drive from hind legs.

Temperament: From the past history of the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, the modern dog draws its character of indomitable courage, high intelligence, and tenacity. This, coupled with its affection for its friends, and children in particular, its off-duty quietness and trustworthy stability, makes it a foremost all-purpose dog.

Disqualification: Black-and-tan or liver color.

 

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Nice read thanks for posting AGK

 

a quick question. why is B&T a fault??? it was one of the original bull and terrier colors...

 

You are correct, It's an original colour, probably from the terriers that were known to be in the British Isles since the 1600s, When the Stafford was first KC registered in 1935, a lot of the English Stafford men thought that any black and tan dogs must have Iirish blood" in them. Ignorance and racism is a helluva combination!

 

sigh idiots. according to my studies, the B & T bulldog terriers produced a great dog.

 

I'v never heard that before ...? where have you seen that ,,,? the show people who got the SBT recognized by the KC ,,, wrongly believed that black and tan ,,would become too dominant a colour and banned it ,,,nothing to do at all with Irish dogs,,,

 

never heard that association with the Irish and the black n tan colour either. they didn't have much luck eradicating the colour anyhow, there's still a few knocking about in my area, this one belonged to a friend, fat as a fool here but wasn't a bad shape of a dog with the weight off.

 

A 16 inch dog that weighs 38 pounds is overweight/not fit for function. The SBT breed standard has been altered many times. The height keeps dropping but the weight doesn't change resulting in fat and/or poorly structured dogs. The real working Staffords I see usually come in at around 18 o 19 inches tall and are leggy, lean and well muscled, nothing like the fat, squat, short legged kegs paraded around by the show crowd. The funny thing is if you took a real working Stafford to a kennel club show you would get laughed out of the ring. They have turned the SBT into an ugly, deformed dog that does not have the structure or the heart to work as it was originally intended.

 

my bitch.

17" tts & 27lbs fit. (30/31 when fat)

 

This may or may not be true, but in one book I have about Staffords the author discusses the "black and tan" coloration. He says it's a very dominant type, which is true. But in Staffordshire Bull Terriers at least, the color is strongly linked to a foot shape carried over from old black and tan terriers which has the two middle toes longer than the two outer toes . That type of foot is incorrect for the dog according to the show standard (they thought it didn't let the dog drive forward properly when working). They didn't want those weird terrier feet in on their dogs, so they didn't want to allow black and tan. The book is called The Complete Staffordshire Bull Terrier, by D. Gilmour.

 

by black and tan terriers i mean a terrier of patterdale/parson type with such coloration. not manchesters. these terriers were no worse than white ones, just "ugly". and plenty of historical rat pit/ fighting bulldog terriers were black and tan. tiny was, a dog named pincher was. however the type of bulldog came into play as well. but from my historical accounts i gather that these points were what was wanted in the ideal bull terrier.

the powerful shoulders, well developed chest, thin fine tail, stamina, power, strong jaws, gameness and full head muscles of the bulldog. combined with the lights neck, active frame, strong loin, intelligence, longer jaw, tendency to shake, aggression, and full hind quarters of the english terrier.


back in the day there were fighting terriers without the stain of the bull and bulldog that were moderate fighters (they were usually horrid at it since they just held). crossing these must have made a great bull terrier. and a lot of these greats were black and tan or other dark colors.

 

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