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...RATTING with TERRIERS...

Discussion in 'Patterdale Terriers' started by ELIAS'PISTOLA, May 25, 2016.

  1. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

  2. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Great link Elias...thanks
     
  3. Saiyagin

    Saiyagin Chihuahua

    Again the only and first person who thinks that link was great, things that make you go hmmm. LMAO
     
  4. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Anybody know anything about Booth bred Patterdales?
     
  5. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Talked to a guy with some that was thinking of breeding a bitch to one of my bulldogs. I don't know alot about patts, so anybody heard of Booth dog's???
     
  6. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    booth is a bloodline,,,
    just as the bulldogs the name is so far removed that it depends on if the immediate dogs carry the genes...
    Nuttall,,, Gould and Booth are the older bloodlines...

    Whats the intention of the breeding???
    that cross makes for some cool dogs and great little hog dogs...
     
  7. toom

    toom Big Dog

    Booth dogs are super hard dogs so hard they get themselves killed.There very well built because they have ALOT of bull blood(hence the hardness) in them mostly staffybull some pitbull and maybe some English bullterrier way back.Other patts have better noses because there waaay more terrier less bully.I myself really like the booth dogs cuz I like the hardness and the bully blood.What bloodline of apbt are you using?
     
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  8. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    It's an Earl Jr/Eli/ snooty bred bulldog. Me personally I have no intentions with the breeding, the guy with the patts wants me to put a dog across his bitch. He says the dogs are very hard and have finish, from what I understood from the convo was that he wanted to add a little more size and more crunch for finishing to tackle bigger prey. Basically seems he's looking to possibly use them as hog dogs.
     
  9. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    good read fellas,,, caj its seems a bit hard on a pat female to breed to bulldog male via size of birth canal and might need a c section...
    although smaller males from a smaller family might not be so hard on the birthing process and breeding a pat male ex a bulldog bitch
    is the old formula that works best...

    I thought I remember the Booth dogs had a but more bull blood and everything else toom shared...
     
  10. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Most of my males run mid 30's and my females mid to upper 20's so I guess it may work. I've got a daughter off the dog he wants to breed to that is 18 months and 23 pounds otc. The Patt bitch is about her size, that could also be reason he's looking to breed to him.
     
  11. toom

    toom Big Dog

    It will work with eeeease I bred a 50LB apbt to a 25LB patt jyp.It's mother nature when the pups are in the womb there sized appropriately once out they take on there own course of size BUT myself I wouldn't go anymore then double the size.My guess would be the pitterpatts from this breeding would almost be the size of your apbt do to the wide opening up of the gene pool.That's some nice old school apbt blood you got going there.Do you have any photo's of your apbt?Tell your buddy I'd be interested it sounds like a good breeding.
     
  12. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    This guy
     

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  13. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

  14. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    I would consider a twenty five pound pat bitch to be way out of standard for any true bred spanable terrier,,,
    I had no problem breeding my twenty five bulldog to fifty pound male either...

    But try it with a 12 to 14# terrier and see what happens...

    Having ten extra pounds of bull blood is one thing and being a true terrier is another...

    I use to go on the dead game forum and read breeders engage in some of these outer breed crosses and what they went through....
     
  15. toom

    toom Big Dog

    True 25LBs is a BIG patt she started out small lol and just kept putting on muscle,,,,males can easily be 22LBs and in Europe there bred bigger then in the USA do to terrain.There's even 10LB males but I've found that extremely hard to find.Smaller is for the ground and bigger for above ground.I'm not into spending half a day digging threw granite stones in the earth.
     
  16. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    the term terrier is to go to ground,,,
    I like the old school terrier mens word of if they can span a fox hole they are not a terrier regardless of who the parents are or what the pedigree says...
    Some disagree and breed the bull cross and still call them terriers but in all fairness to the originals,,,
    they are just terrier bull crosses NOT terriers or true PATTERDALEs any more than they are BULLDOGS...

    I like the crosses and see good reason for them and that is one of my favorite studies,,,
    ans I also know a span able terrier bitch can whelp an average size bulldogs pups...
     

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