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garners elmo

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by FrankDublin, Sep 8, 2009.

  1. The Saint

    The Saint Big Dog

    Man, the ElmoII x Boyles (Reno/Aggie) crosses would be my kind of dogs. Seems like those gents knows exactly what they are doing.
     
  2. nmdogs

    nmdogs Big Dog

    Can you post a ped ?

    Nmdogs
     
  3. FrankDublin , tried to send you a PM but says your box is full
     
  4. 305APBT

    305APBT Big Dog

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    Elmo was sent to a person as a gift. He arrived up here as a 15 month old never touched dog. He won into very good comp up this way said partners hands in 37 minutes. He never got BIS either, should have yes, but it was given to the person that hosted the shows that night, even though the dog he showed Skinner had gone into a dog named Disco that was a piece of crap. Elmo had stopped the Disco dog in 17 minutes off the chain pushing over 5 pounds before Disco ever met Skinner. Skinner beat the Disco dog at their actual true weights but it took him just over 20. Skinner was a foul fighter, nothing more. He later went on to go into the Blackjack dog that Shaw had, and it was an easy spot for Shaw to pick. The Skinner dog only got BIS the night Elmo was shown because the show was put on by Skinners owner, and because most knew that he was looking to go into Blackjack next. Many said to the handler of Elmo that he deserved BIS, so did many others, but that’s life. Elmo could have easily have been championed out, but some personal issues at that time between myself and a partner got in the way of that happening. It was unfortunate, but those things happen.

    We both look back at that time now with some regrets, but the partnership and friendship has been able to be salvaged as a result. Elmo was eventually sent back to Tom as a proven stud dog, and Tom replaced him with his belly brother who lived with me for about 3 years and was bred 3 times during that time. He’s now down on my partners yard where he will see more breeding in the years to come. He appears at this time to throw more mouth into his offspring then Elmo did. Although we believe that Elmo’s brother appears to throw more mouth into his offspring, we are also aware that Elmo was the far more talented dog of the two. Elmo didn’t win that night as a result of mouth. He won by pure talent. He never had the opportunity to show his mouth, as his opponenet never stuck there long enough. There was only one scratch by the other dog before he packed it in, and had a handle not been able to be had on the other dog, he would have quit much sooner. Many said it would take one hell of a dog just to stick with Elmo. What Tom has back on his yard is a 1 in 100 dog. He throws talent into his offspring plain and simple. He’s proven to produce with cold dogs, and dogs that are less than average, so I’m quite sure for those who want exceptional dogs, they will have no problems finding many winners in the years to come that are off of Elmo bred to bitches off of Tom’s yard. Elmo has also thrown the longest Frisco bred show dog to date. The Minnie Mo dog that recently went 3:08, but due to a handling choice that we agree now was in error it could have gone longer (closer to 3 1/2 to 4 hrs.). Both Mo and his opponent where tremendous specimens in exceptional dogmens hands.
     
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  5. Artalo

    Artalo Pup

    No paperwork but possibly chinaman/colby bloodline, my first pit Pit bull.jpg Apbt 45.jpg Apbtew.jpg REAL APBT.jpg
     
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  6. 305APBT

    305APBT Big Dog

    Here are a few pictures I have located of Elmo on the net.
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  7. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Wish I'd got something off him when he was around:(
     
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  8. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    No doubt man.I knew where some of his offspring was directly off him but havent spoken with the dude in a while.Never really wanted to do buisness.
     
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  9. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    I googled his ped to remind myself how he was bred and I noticed the number on his collar. Pretty smart for somebody with a large yard that has yard hands that do the work. All they know is a number, no names. Easier to do feed/med schedule just going by a number is probably why he did it but I would like the added reason that it would cut down on people knowing which dog is who.

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=10633
     
  10. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    Garner didn't breed that dog D. Payne did . He had to sale his yard and Garner bought it . Nasty, Lee Ling , Scooter Red , Black Annie and more and the whole litter that produced Lee Ling .
     
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  11. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Smart man:)
     
  12. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Niko, I'm honestly curious. Are you Chuva, just as a different handle?
     
  13. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Treez,Im honestly curious.Do you practice being a dick,or does it come natural??? Lol
     
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  14. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Natural. But I was serious though. Are you? No offense. Just curious.
     
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  15. niko

    niko CH Dog

    I thought so lol,no
     
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  16. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    Cool. Was purely curious. Appreciate it.
     
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  17. niko

    niko CH Dog

    Np:)
     
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  18. Granite Co.

    Granite Co. Big Dog

    I had a couple off Elmo (Elmo/RedVelvet & Elmo/Misty) that made nice yard ornaments, but that's about it .. I also saw a daughter of his get crippled without a peep, but when offered to me (for free) I turned down the offer ..
    I heard that his son Elmo2 produced better than his old man ..
     
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  19. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    BBD once told me he could breed Elmo II to a 2x4 and he would end up with game splinters. They had success with that Elmo II crossed in to Pettus's Reno dogs down from GR Ch Costa Tzu. I almost went that route but decided to just stay the course I was on with the Geachiman dogs instead. I just prefer Garners name not be in my peds if I can help it, nothing against the guy just personal preference. . Lol. Otherwise I'd have Elmo II x Reno x Sparky dogs today instead of the Geachiman dogs. I got no complaints so never felt like I missed out on something.
     

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