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Minnesota Police Murder

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by stedz, May 27, 2020.

  1. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    What you say is 100%.. Hit the nail on the head, it's the same with war crimes, police and prison abuse, even on the street when a violent bully takes a complete liberty and 20 bystanders look the other way! Too easy to call it cowardice, there must be some kind of mathematical formula or psychological profile for that trait in humans, but it's one of our worst.
     
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  2. Mr.Revolution

    Mr.Revolution CH Dog

    Ask MLK and Kaepernick where peaceful protest get you.
    How come we didnt peacefully protest instead of having a revolutionary war.
    How is this worse than what people do after some major sporting events.
     
  3. stickler

    stickler Banned

    Corona ist dead ? Now it's Black people vs. White Copa?
    Sorry guys, you better wake up soon.
    Search for ANTIFA and Soros ...
    And just stop watching and listening to the fake main stream Media.
     
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  4. stickler

    stickler Banned

  5. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Not that the first round is any where close to being over bu the second round of riots are already on tap.

    I read where Mr. Floyd had underlying medical conditions and asphyxiation or blood flow from the knee was not the cause of his death. The 'stress of being restrained and his toxicology report' played the major role.

    Minneapolis Police still recognize the knee in the back/neck as a viable means to hold and secure.

    I'm don't feel like I am going out on a limb when I say I think this cat is going to get off.

    The bell sounds. Round #2.

    S
     
  6. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    The next generation.

    This is my son who was with his girlfriend and other friends peacefully protesting at the protest I posted videos of earlier.

    He wrote this next part.

    "
    This movement has consumed me this weekend. Last night within seconds of hearing that we the people organized for a systematic change of oppressive authoritarian behaviors, via a NON-violent gathering, we suited up scribbled our opinions and showed up to share our grievances for those (of every race,religion,creed,sex) who have lost their lives, begged for mercy, pleaded, complied , and inevitably lost their god given right to the pursuit of freedom and happiness at the hands of the men and women who signed up to protect us and our lives... We chanted and marched the streets, and arrived at the police station, to be HEARD. I never in my life thus far thought I would be assaulted with smoke grenades, flash bangs, mace and tear gas by officers, when no civilians presented weapons, instigated, or behaved violently towards the officers...We asked to be heard, I don’t think we have been yet. Some of my closest people came with to support and were harmed for chanting with signs. I stood by folks with their children who I pray made it away before they were tossing gas at us. My heart goes out to the local business that we’re damaged but buildings and materialistic items will be replaced when we as a whole unite as a community.


    NO JUSTICE NO PEACE. #BLACKLIVESMATTER
    #ICANTBREATHE #UNITE #RESIST #WEMATTER #THEPOLICEARETHEPROBLEM "




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  7. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    You should be proud.

    S
     
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  8. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    I couldn't be prouder of him. It was crazy down there. Once they started shooting tear gas in the crowd all hell broke out. A lady that was just sitting on the ground peacefully not doing anything got tear gassed and then kicked in her face by EPD. Few businesses got damaged and set on fire. That all started after the police started trying to push everyone back and make them disperse. If this keeps up at this pace cops will be getting shot at pretty soon around this country. Crazy times.
     
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  9. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    Not ALL BLACKS ARE CRIMINALS. NOT ALL WHITES ARE RACIST. NOT ALL COPS ARE BAD. IGNORANT COMES IN ALL COLORS.
     
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  10. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Very true but I told you people here get straight up heathen acting fast. They was throwing fireworks, rocks. bottles whatever they could throw at EPD.

    It was peaceful until the cops tried to force everyone to disperse with flash bangs and tear gas etc. Then it got ugly and real fast.

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  11. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    That's our police station in the background.

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  12. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Good points slim.. I read most professionally accredited Control & Restraint Guidelines, thought I might as well since I been on receiving end of most of them and (far as I'm aware) none of the current guidelines in EU allows pressure to the neck or throat.. That rules out blood & air chokes and any form of head lock, simple reason, they know it's dangerous! If a young 200-250lb revved up, steroid using, MMA trained copper puts a choke or a knee to my throat while his 4 colleagues sit on top of me, I'm going to asphyxiate, they be as well just shoot me, it's quicker!

    Some years back I watched CCTV video, nearly exact same situation in London as USA with George Floyd.. The copper put a guillotine choke on young black boy, took him to the ground, 3 other coppers lay on top of the boy shouting "don't resist!" few minutes later the boy was dead.. Stevie Wonder could see the first copper a dirty racist bastard, just testing his new BJJ skills on a defenceless kid.. The British media very quick to defame and criminalise the boy, said Toxicology report showed he smoked cannabis and we all know why that got mentioned! Nothing was ever said (or done) about the death.

    All Law Enforcement and Prison Staff are instructed in Control & Restraint.. The guidelines so clear that killing someone almost impossible.. They're taught hard locks, soft locks, pain manipulation, medical issues, insanity, anger, despair, how to de-escalate and defend a violent situation and keep a cool head when they're doing it.. They're taught to protect themselves, the public and the person being restrained, that's what coppers are supposed to do.. 'BE PROFESSIONAL' but I never yet seen a Control & Restraint Manual raise the issue of Racism, steroid rage or pack mentality in Police Officers and until that issue is addressed within Law Enforcement, the cycle of death and destruction just keep going round again and again like an old Chandler Mill.
     
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  13. The law are bastards...in all places.
    Civil unrest is not nice.
    burn that fucking police station to the grownd!
     
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  14. Your right mate.that cannibis thing is a bad shout man.he smoked cannibis?wow.seems weed makes ya violent.bet they never metiond the steroids the rageing loon of a copper took tho!
    typical fucking law mate.bullies in uniform.no sorry-a gang in a fucking uniform.
    that was in the 80s that you mentiond Oldguy.same thing happend by ares(Tocky riots).fucking roits,fucking uproar.all coz of the racist bullie plod.
    not sure if the plod killed anybody in the Tocky riots mate?but it caused uproar.and civil unrest for years after.
    Thatcher caused it all.well.she had a lot do with it all.
     
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  15. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    That's a good boy you got there AGK.. I'd be proud as fuck to have a son like him=D>
     
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  16. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    All Security and Custody departments should be vetted for Racism and cleared out.. They should be routinely steroid tested and it should be mandatory.. Any with MMA backgrounds should only use their skills for the benefit of all parties including the person being restrained, and all neck chokes and head locks should be banned! That would save lives!
     
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  17. Hahahaha.they are veted mate.
    and if they racist and a mma or a juice head.....then they get the job!
     
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  18. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    @oldguy

    I have not read many of the guidelines for restraint but the article I did read said, pretty much like you said, most agencies have outlawed or made the chokes and blood flow holds not authorized. Minneapolis has not. I did not do any research or proof that bit of information but it was part of the article.

    It's a sad state of affairs regardless.

    I agree with the pack mentality by the police as well. But that has now flipped and the 'pack' is 'looting and burning' in a frenzy. At some point it will be stopped. And it will be stopped with force. And the pack mentality will get a lot of young/youthful people killed.

    Again, I could care less about the views and opinions on the topic at hand but what strikes a cord with me is that is DEAD is DEAD.

    In life, if you go looking for something you might just find it.

    S
     
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  19. Michele

    Michele CH Dog Super Moderator

    I'm not sure this cop will get off. Do a search for Eric Garner. He had medical issues and was supposedly killed by a cop by a choke hold.
     
  20. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I'm pessimistic in these situations.

    Not so much a conspiracy theorist, just do not always drink the Kool-Aid.

    I will do the search but I think the cop was fired but I do not think he was indicted.

    The police departments response to his medical issues were that Mr. Garner did not think his health issues were a problem enough to stop him from resisting arrest. ( or in so many words).

    I'm thinking there will be sentiment on the jury, half will be pissed at the riots and looting and half will judge to prevent the second wave of riots and looting. The actual evidence and facts will play little factor in the judgement. From there I think he walks.

    Again, I am mostly an optmisitic/look for the best in people type of person but these type topics I am pretty much pessimistic.

    S
     
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