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Another great historical read: The Flynn Strain

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by Lrs, Aug 18, 2015.

  1. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    The Flynn Strain

    Regarded as one of the gamest of the Stafford lines the Flynn Strain certainly has had its share of good dogs worthy of admiration. It all started with two brothers who liked the game trial dogs such as the Wheaten Terriers and the Staffordshire Bull Terriers.

    Over a period of time they obtained and bred some of their own versions, of how a game dog should be and it grew to be more than a few so it formed a Strain known as the Evergreen and Faranee stock. The Main foundation dogs included some of the dogs you will find in the Northford/Psycho line's background. Dogs like Hegarty's Black Tiger, Cork Rose, Mutton Skull and a dog of doubtful background, but known to be a hell of a worker, the mysterious "Lynchahaun".

    It was said that the Lynchahaun dog was stolen in England by a seaman who sold him to a priest named F. Jordan in Ireland. It was also said that the children in his parish tormented this priest so I guess he probably thought that the children would take to the dog and stop tormenting him. I guess the dog in the end made the tormenting stop, because when the children saw this dog they were quick on setting their dogs on him, but Lynchahaun would go ballistic and kill any dog they set on him and before to long the priest was let alone. This was probably heard about in the parish and since the dogs name appears behind a great many of the dogs from that area I guess it is safe to assume that someone thought he would be worth taking their bitch to.

    This dog was the Sire to many great Trial dogs, some of which are in the background of the Flynn dogs. He was the Sire to Moneys Pet, who was mated to Cork Rose's brother Faranee Lad. This mating produced two pups that later became known as Faranee boy and Evergreen Dolly.

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    Faranee Boy

    These were then mated to give Evergreen Patsy, a very good bitch, which was put to Gerry Allen's Geronimo dog. A lot of thought has gone into this breeding and it gave excellent results. Evergreen Patsy was also put to Barney, a staff/ EBT cross and Wolf Island Boy, which both appears in the pedigree of the Irish Jack dog, which is mentioned in the Dublin Red Strain section.

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    Jerome's Barney


    The Flynn brothers were also involved in some of the breeding behind Ch. Psycho, such as Evergreen Tiny Peggy or Doneal Flynn's Old Peggy. The mating between Geronimo and Evergreen Patsy was a well thought out breeding as was breeding her back to her Sire Faranee Boy, which resulted in Max who was sent to Underwood in England. When bred to Geronimo it resulted in Paddy, Leo and Candy. Paddy and Candy were sent to Peter Western in England and Leo ended up with Joe Orday in the U.S.A.

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    Paddy of Plymouth Orday's Leo

    With these dogs now in England, a tight breeding program began. When Max was put to his half sister Candy, they produced Judy and Blue AKA Springview's Wolf. Judy was in turn put to Paddy, which resulted in Abby of Plymouth AKA Springview's Abby, Floyd of Plymouth, Bess of Plymouth and Slade of Plymouth.

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    Springview's Abby Judy of Plymouth

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    Springview's Blue Wolf

    Floyd were put to his sister Bess and produced Cass of Plymouth and Limmerick Kennels Nelson.
    One of his matches were reported as following:

    The Potman's Blue Vs. Limerick Kennels Nelson.

    Blue, Sired by Ch. Smuggler comes in at 43 lb. Nelson a Flynn bred dog comes in at 39 lb.
    Fast pace with Blue on the shoulder, Nelson on the head and neck.
    Blue works the chest and shoulder most of the time and pushes Nelson about.
    Nelson is picked up at 21 minutes, and is counted out on his courtesy scratch.
    Winner Blue 21 minutes.





    Cass was put to a dog called Belcher of Taunton, out of Ch. Molly and Springview's Wolf, which produced two large dogs, Kane and Diablo. Kane was said to be no good, but Diablo was said to have done well in a 30 minutes roll with an APBT called Scotsman's Max.

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    Scotsman's Max

    Slade of Plymouth was said to be a very game bitch, rolled into many dogs Staffords and APBT's, showing deep gameness. She was bred back to her father Paddy producing Peggy and Hooker. Peggy was later put to Springview's Wolf, producing two sons, Sonny and Jock. Hooker was put to Moonshine, Josh and Irish Jack, which gave good results.

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    Slade of Plymouth Hooker

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    Meg (Josh x Hooker) Rose (Moonshine x Hooker)

    Paddy of Plymouth was said to have won 7 matches in England and when put to a bitch from Rapparee lines called Lucky they produced a hell of a bitch called Molly. Ch.Molly was said to have won as much as 6 matches, but some was off the chain matches and not reported contract matches. Whatever the case may be she was a very game bitch.

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    Paddy of Plymouth Ch. Molly


    Since this mating was a total outcross it makes total sense that she was bred back to Springview's Wolf, making the pups ¾ Flynn ¼ Rapparee. She was however also bred to the Dublin Red Strain dog Russell's Red Joe, and the Psycho Strain dog Farmer Boys Jocko. Molly was bred back to Wolf on different occasions, producing Belcher of Taunton, Trap, Twister, Vicci, Rhona and Jed.

    Belcher of Taunton was matched against a Stafford/APBT cross in his first match and was picked up game in 1 hour and 31 minutes due to a re-broken leg. It was said that when he was a young dog he was kicked in the leg by a cow with the result that the leg was broken. Nevertheless he was put to his dam Molly, Springview's Abby, Cass of Plymouth and Sophie out of Kizzy and Milo.

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    Belcher

    Twister was said to be a result of the second mating of Wolf and Molly and it was said that she did well against the Badgers. She was put across Sylas, out of Lee's Lightfoot by Johnson and threw some healthy pups. One bitch ended up in Sweden, where she was registered under a fake name and is now behind some show stock over there.

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    Twister



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    Thanks to City Dude for scanning and sending the ad.

    Trap was said to be a very game dog and when put to his daughter Fly out of Flynn (Belcher x Sophie) it resulted in Taz and Tinker. Trap was also put to Joe's Bella (Jocko x Beanie II), producing Joe's Slade, which was mated with her half brother Taz producing City Dude's Molly, a very nice looking bitch.

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    Trap

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    City Dude's Molly

    Vicci was a litter sister to Belcher and it was said that she did very well against the badger, but that she never really proved herself against other dogs. It was said that she also was mated to Diablo.

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    Rona

    I don't have any info on what happened with Rona and Jed, but there are still a few dogs of this line around. This line never reached the popularity like the Dublin Red and the Northford/Psycho line did, but nevertheless they are highly regarded among the fancy.













    http://hearticalstaffords.free.fr/The Flynn Strain.htm

    Thought I'd share this link....
     
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  2. SBTDusty

    SBTDusty Pup

    Thanks for sharing

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  3. Kaney

    Kaney Pup

    Thanks for a great read and pics good to put pics to the names chears
     
  4. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    Nice share...
     
  5. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    I wonder if there are still any dogs bred down from these still around?
     
  6. starrline

    starrline Pup

    Hopefully there is been trying to find good dogs bred like this for a while but aint many people keeping decsent staffords ware i am in scotland mostly just over priced blue show dogs
     
  7. O'Flynn had something to say about this as some of the breedings are not correct, unfortunately I cannot find the post but I will try to get some info. Still lot is true.
     
  8. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    I'm glad but chances of anybody not in the mans circle getting the blood are slim to none.
     
  9. I agree.
     
  10. billbulldog

    billbulldog Big Dog

    Proper staffords are like hens teeth but there's still good breeding programs going. On
     
  11. I have an inbred dublin red male with a little of that Flynn breeding by way of Molly. He's a cracking little dog and I am interested to know if anyone has anything similar out there?
     
  12. mixed-grill

    mixed-grill Big Dog

    Recenty lost probably the best dog I ever had... he was tight bred top an bottom off Red Meg (JoshXHooker) and Skinners Sylus...also have a bitch here whos grandsire was half bro to that dog...she an old bitch now...as said above...cracking dogs to be around
     
  13. mixed-grill

    mixed-grill Big Dog

    ment to say her grandsire was half bro to my other dogs grandsire...cant fuckin edit on here lol
     
  14. Thanks MG for sharing, I do think-in my experience- that this cross can produce so really good representatives of the breed. Josh was a really nice dog.
     
  15. lots of wrong information there , some truth but a lot of baloney
     
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  16. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    Everyone's here to learn have any corrections?
     
  17. reids skipper

    reids skipper Top Dog

    Hows yours bred rivergreen as i have molly in my old bitch too
     
  18. nasher

    nasher Big Dog

    Sorry to hear that mixed grill and lots of bollocks in the flynn strain write up but that's the Internet
     
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