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Any good ideas?

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by jumper3202, Mar 5, 2009.

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  1. jumper3202

    jumper3202 Big Dog

    I wanna purchase a female to breed to my lil male in the future if he works out and performs good. Now he is dbl bred on garner's rosco www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=285425 now i wanna keep it tight on the eli but i been thinkin i wanna use some other eli stuff to do that with...I am lookin for some good suggestions so do you guys have any good ideas of which eli line that would be good to use? :D
     
  2. Bobby Rooster

    Bobby Rooster CH Dog

    Don't you think its a good bit early to start thinking about what to breed him too???? I do...

    If your gonna breed dogs BREED DOGS and not paper...

    You have NO IDEA what kind of dog this will be, you don't know where he's strong and you don't know where he's week. Breeding dogs is so much more then putting two tightly bred dogs together..!! LOOK at the dogs and let THEM tell YOU how to breed them. Find a bitch that has Some of the same streaths but more important she needs to be STRONG where he is week..

    The female is the backbone of any line. But you need to know THE DOGS before you can even ponder on what breedings will click.

    JMHO

    And my opinion you can't inbreed your mediocre dogs to get that super dog no matter how much you inbreed. If it's not there to start with it won't ever show up. You can breed down the latter but once its gone it can never comeback up the latter.
     
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  3. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    call Tom and talk to him ask him what he thinks.He will help you with that he is a good breeder and knows his dogs.If you can try to get one of them SNOOTY pups he got Eli/SNOOTY dogs are great:D
     
  4. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    ummm the dog is not even 3 months old, how do you explain this...

    "Lil strait ahead bulldog don\'t take no crap at all lol luvin him not to mention his crunch and set of teeth he has!!!!"

    crunch? on what-kibble?
    set of teeth? you mean those puppy teeth?
     
  5. Bobby Rooster

    Bobby Rooster CH Dog

    RR while I agree with you.. We just need to be easy
     
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  6. Bobby Rooster

    Bobby Rooster CH Dog

    .............. Never mind
     
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  7. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    OMG I just $h!T my pants RR you crack me up with that post.That kid just has high hopes for his pup''if he works out and performs good''.What ever he does I hope he will keep the whole litter and will not sell any.It takes many years with these dogs to tell if you have a god dog or not and some will never be able to tell.
     
  8. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    i realize i can come off a bit strong, maybe arrogant sometimes, but i try to bite my tongue alot. this case is a perfect example.
    there are waaay to many people talking about breeding these days.
    there are waaay to many people putting less than desirable information online.
    these are the people who draw attention to us, and its not in a good light.
    im not saying that breeding is bad- the dog is 11 weeks old, let it grow up and THEN worry about its breeding potential. but i would prefer to see the breedings done by people who know what they want to breed to, not folks fishing around to see what the internet thinks they should breed...we dont know your dog.
    it should also be noted the peds online IS infact severly monitored by hsus and law enforcement officials, to put more info than needed on a ped is just asking for a download ( and yes, it DOES happen)

    and yes, we ALL have high hopes for our dogs. i have 3 females right now, all under 12 months old. i have high hopes that one of them might prove worthy of being bred to keep me going w/ these dogs (i.e personal dogs, not for sale-they stay here) but that potential breeding is years away(4-5 to be precise) i had a great brood bitch and lost her in my divorce...i had a great stud dog, i never kept anyting off them as i thought i had all the time in the world. and so the rebuilding begins after almost 20 years. to the op- sorry if i offend you, but that is just my yankee attitude shining thru i guess.
     
  9. Bobby Rooster

    Bobby Rooster CH Dog

    Agree 110% RR
     
  10. jumper3202

    jumper3202 Big Dog

    where the hell do u get he is only 3 mnths?
     
  11. 40lbRed

    40lbRed Big Dog

    Calm down. language
     
  12. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    right here homie, from the ped YOU posted, birthdate 12-08-2008 a bit of quick goat math puts that dog at (drum roll please..........) 3 days under 3 months old ( it is now 03-05-09).....

    BREEDER: GARNER
    OWNER: WALKER
    SEX: MALE
    COLOR: BLACK WITH SMALL WHITE MARKS
    CHAINWEIGHT: PUPPY
    CONDITIONED WEIGHT: PUPPY
    BIRTHDATE: 2008-12-08
    POSTED: 2008-12-17
    LAST MODIFIED: 2009-02-06
    PEDIGREE HAS BEEN SEEN: 1713 TIMES

    Lil strait ahead bulldog don\'t take no crap at all lol luvin him not to mention his crunch and set of teeth he has!!!!
     
  13. jumper3202

    jumper3202 Big Dog

    y so serious people, get real guys i was just creating conversation, some people are so narrow minded, why don't people put stuff in perspective that he will not be bred if is not worthy i mean u people act like some people just beginner's and kids by just a thread get real and read in to shit way to deep....lol lol wow how can u guys think people are this stupid get fuckin real open your eyes alittle and quit jumpin to conclusions....
     
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  14. jumper3202

    jumper3202 Big Dog

    well thats a mistake he was born in august my partner created the ped homie! i was wondering wtf you was talkin about...lol
     
  15. jumper3202

    jumper3202 Big Dog

    not one strait educated answer some of you over exam things by far can't even create convo without people thinkin people are beginners and don't know what there doin...thanks anyway no need to get into all that big replys juss tryin to have alil fun lol lol
     
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  16. Marty

    Marty Guest

    We have kids that view this site I will ask that we watch our language ;)

    And please edit your own posts as I don't have time :eek:
     
  17. Bobby Rooster

    Bobby Rooster CH Dog

    Easy jumper we only have the breeds best interest at heart, and brother there are a TON of fools that are out there and breeding dogs, and the question you asked does come across a little green.

    Dogmen breed bulldogs peddlers just breed any ol dogs. Some with fancy or tight paper work.

    So just try to see that our advise is ment for the betterment of the breed and not an attack on your personally...

    I know we all dream and think and plan out breeding and theorize a bunch I'm just as guilty of that and I think almost every thinks about it their head to some degree..

    But I stand by what I said in my first post. I hope you can soak that in.
     
  18. SPFDOGS

    SPFDOGS Guest

    Educated questions, recieve educated answers...Foolish questions recieve answers much like the ones you've recieved already..

    There is no question in my mind that this pup will be the sire of a litter before he is mature..No doubt about it..
     
  19. SPFDOGS

    SPFDOGS Guest

    Why are people so serious?.
    Because people like you breed PUPS simply because of what their PAPERS say and NOT on the animals own merits, thus causing a decline in the overall quality of said bloodline..

    "..he will not be bred if is not worthy.." So your DynoPUP was worthy when you bred him to your "rare" backyard bred female?.
    Was that street dog that you picked up and put CKC papers on him worthy of being bred?.If not why did you have him at public stud on your website?.

    "..you people act like some people just beginner's and kids by just a thread get real.." It is SOOOO painfully obvious (just by reading a few of your posts/threads here, as oldgameblood & jumper, and on fedsonline as walko) that YOU ARE green, and not only that, but you have the "fantasy land" mentallity of a kid..No need to jump to conclusions, it plain for the eye to see..

    And just so you know...Serious dogmen dont have to ask opinions from people on the internet, about what to do with their program..
     
  20. jumper3202

    jumper3202 Big Dog


    yh spf i had my female for 5yrs before i bred her bud and she is far from back yard lol i looked around for 2yrs before i bred her i wasn't ever gonna breed her but for one she was worthy and 2 i could get something strait off some good stock if i couldn't get some off good stock she wouldn't of been bred so you say i breed pups but yet i waited five yrs just breed her??? bud u are just hatin cuz u think u pulled my card but ur not even close pal give it a rest...
    you seem to over look that it was just for conversation lol
     
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