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breeding question

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by csotelo9388, Nov 30, 2009.

  1. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    like i said bfor im new to the game n im tryn to learn as much as possible.my question is when talkn bout pedigrees and breeding i c alot of u mention say for examle ur dog is jeep on top n reboy on bottom.what exactly is ment by that?i aslo read that if ur bulldog is missing sumthing u try to correct it by piking anothr bloodline in decide wiether to use it on top or bottom to get exactly what u want out of ur next pups.how does that work?im not planning on breeding,just want to learn as much as i can.i tryd to do a search on the subject but i culdnt find it if sumbody else already askd.
  2. KBK

    KBK Big Dog

    Ok, here goes, when I look at a ped, if I dont know any of the dogs I skip to the fourth or fifth generation and see what is behind these dogs, usually you will se a recurring theme/dog, all the dogs from the original view of the ped will go back go this one dog or possibly a particular family of dogs, say for instance the Eli strain, or redboy, or Bolio or whatever the case may be.

    As for the second part of your question, people will have a "Look" at there dogs and say Ol Rover aint got much mouth, better add some Eli, which are known for bringing some crunch, or Fido may have all the Bite in the world but is lacking gameness so add some redboy which is known for that trait while or you could have a dog thats game and a hard mouth but hasnt got the smarts to pull it all together so you add some Bolio blood which is known for there smarts.

    The above are all generalizations and a very rough guide, just cos its Redboy doesnt guarantee the dog is game, same goes for the other 2 examples but thats the general jist of it.

    There are plenty of people on here who have alot more experience and knowledge than me and no doubt they can give a better explanation than I have.....so over to them
  3. Bobby Rooster

    Bobby Rooster CH Dog

    It means that the top half (His Sire) is made up of CH Jeep bred dogs several times in His Sire's pedigree, and that the bottom half (His Dam) is made up of CH Red Boy bred dogs. as far as the other, if a dog is lacking in wind, then you look for a family of dogs known for and with proven wind, if it's a hard mouth your looking for then you look for a dog that has one as well with a family of hard bitters....

    Experiance and research will tell you what families and strains have what traits.... and the dogs them self will tell you how to breed them... if you know how to hear what they tell you....
  4. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    the more i learn the more i luv this breed n this site.thnx for ur great info
  5. Bobby Rooster

    Bobby Rooster CH Dog

    KBK no disrespect intended, but if you have a line of dogs thats lacking in gameness, shoot the f*ckers and time to start over.... gameness should be at the root core and very basic foundation.... thats what should be,,, now anyone can do what they want to and it doesn't bother me what so ever, breed blue dogs if you want to, but if someone wants to breed non game sport dogs then hey that just makes it easier for me to win.....
  6. KBK

    KBK Big Dog

    Na thats cool Bobby, was a very general breakdown I gave there just as a quick example (without engaging my own brain for a moment) I certainly wasnt condoning breeding curs, saying that I am sure it has been done plenty of times where somebody has a rough cur and takes a shot at adding something they think might fill in the gaps.

    (Sure look at Mayfields Nigger)

    Again I aint condoning breeding curs...hell no
    Last edited by a moderator: Nov 30, 2009
  7. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    how long u all been in the game n what bloodline u workn wit?if u dnt mind me askn
  8. PurePit19

    PurePit19 CH Dog

    Can't really break it down any better than this.
  9. absolute peril

    absolute peril Big Dog

    Good posting.
    : D
  10. junkyard

    junkyard CH Dog

    i am not "in the game" but i have been around the dogs and a couple of realy good dogmen, for about twelve years. i have a preference for game breed dogs because they will always outshine the other types of breeders in the traits and the temperaments they show compared to breeding that have had no thought or knowledge put into it.

    the well bred dogs still show all the good stuff that the old timers made this breed into where as the other types of breedings tend to bring out undesirable traits such as an unstable temperament, human aggresion ect.
    my prefered line is jeep/redboy as i like what they bring to the table and they mostly are not a huge size, and i like compact dogs.

    if you want to find out which dogs are known for their deep gameness, pit smarts or harder mouths i would go through the history threads and the bloodline threads for a start, or keep asking questions like you have and you will always get some informative answers.

    And Bobby Rooster, thank you button!

    i think the biggest thing that is missing these days in some areas is the true Gameness that made this breed what it is, i know its modern times but i am sceptical at how many truly game dogs are being bred from due to the hard mouthed fast lane barnstormers that seem to be the norm these days.
  11. budboy88

    budboy88 CH Dog

    KBK and bobby said about everything you need to know
  12. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    KBK & BOBBY ROOSTER THNX for ur help like i said great info.ITS GREATLY APRECIATED!!!
  13. AncientKulcha

    AncientKulcha Big Dog

    This guy rite here!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha:D ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    hope i don't confuse things here, but!
    BR about summed it up, but i will add/or correct a little in say'n this.....
    if your dogs are lacking in something, you look towards dogs from the same family First that may give you what you want, if this fails:eek: then you research other families or lines of dogs that have already been proven crosses with your strain and bring in what you need.
    hope i have'nt cofused you:confused:, if i did lol....disregaurd my post lol.
  15. csotelo9388

    csotelo9388 Big Dog

    nah i understood what you were tryn to say.i had a bit of an idea frm all the reading i've been doing but wasnt quite sure and i was a bit confussed,but you all had sum great input.the part of adding different a bloodline to get other traits,i had no idea you culd do that

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