C. & C.'s CH Sony from Holland ?

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55 lbs good sized hounds

 

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Yes, when I saw photo of Ventje, it was the first thought on my mind. Exact image of old CH Yankee ROM! If I understand well, they had pretty much the same hunting style too...

 

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Ok some historicel facts. Alligator duct no man no dog!! i owened him.plain simple rumours. the realstory was that in the UK the dangeres doglaw was coming and there was a forsight in saving this famel;y of dogs. Alligator was the first one to be brought over from the Island, the rest of the faley followed later. Hensh the rezen they are still around and the rest of the Island famelies died out!. also why would the dog been put into a dog like ch sunny. who came with amutch greater rep then Birty who be on a shadow of a doubt was a ecseptional animal in his own right.

CH jolly joker was out of Giroux ch booger rom he came from the first litter. most of these dogs had a dark liver black colord coat that came tru STB Dylan. later when B&W kennels whent back to the USA for a repeat breeding , Booger would not cooperate properly and never got a tie.
they used another dog for the breeding forgot who that dog was.

the second litter of B&WCary was a shadow of the first litter and lookt completly diferend I know because we met 3 of them from the 2 litters. I got Bob(B&W Kennels) on a table during a confermation show . some german dogman and dutch dogman at the time including FWK where there at the time, where i openly confronted Bob with this breeding and he admitted that the second breeding was not out of Gioux ch booger and that i was nearly 100% sure that Booger rom was not the sire of these pups.
Meaning that CH spice is NOT another point on boogers pedegree.

Yanky rom is NOT bred the way people thingk he is bred. he is NOT dubble bred VENTJE aka contry boys little big man.
STB BvH had a bitch back then from ricky the rebel jones out of grch Sandman. witch they bred to ventje blood. they gave Rooly from the country boys these pups. and when askt upon some time later what happend to these pups . Roelie said ooh wel nothing came of of it. then a picture showed up of yanky and he sirpizingly lookt aczackly the same as them pups and a particulair male out of that combo!!!!!!!!!!!!. at that time the crap that didnt make it was send and shipt to former Yougoslavia.
Including dogs like MAD MAX who i belive did enden ip as one of the beter producers over there.all this above happend around 20/25 years ago

 

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Limet,Yankee is born in Serbia,Belgrade!
Yankee is not imported dog 1000000%,his ovner is Boban,hi bought Yankee laike pup,Boban is main frend....
http://apbtpedigrees.com/printpedigree/printout.php?recordID=33127
And Yankee is not double Ventje.
Father anf mother of Yankee is imported dog from Holand.
This is 10000%thrue!

http://apbtpedigrees.com/printpedigree/printout.php?recordID=3030

Dis is father and mother of Yankee ven is imported in Srbija(Yugoslavija).Chiko and Spanky(Lilika).


And dis is Mad Max rom,Breder name Sine Leskovar from Slovenija Imported him from Holand.....
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=30824

Sory for bad english.

 

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Well Guys that is a LIE Booger was the Sire of the second litter to carrie for Sure I breed them Whoever says that is full of shit !!!!! Limey your full of shit You have no clue what you are talking about and I have the pics to prove it !! So please do me a favor from now on keep you stories to what you know and if finkle said that he is full of shit . The second breeding I got two pups from also and Anita came over with carrie at the time of the second breeding ! Bob was here the first time with Carrie to breed to Giroux Ch Paddy he was too old to breed that is how booger was used the first time ............

 

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Limey Really Bob told you that ? As I said bob was not there for the second breeding Anita was and the second breeding produced winners also and the pups looked very much like the first litter I dont know why now you want to start this crap but you sure as hell dont have a clue to what your talking about ?

 

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You can find them in the SDJ, they were documented !
Will see if I can find them.

 

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@Limey kennels Regarding CH Yankee: Ljubomir's Thor aka Chico and his half sister Ljubomir's Spanky aka Lilly were imported as pups from Country Boys Kennel to Belgrade, Serbia. Thor x Spanky breeding was repeated three times. Yankee was from the second litter. At that moment owner of Spanky was Boban, who bought Spanky from Ljubomir. Yankee was Boban's pick of the litter. I don't know if pedigrees of Thor and Spanky are true, but Yankee was from Thor x Spanky breeding for sure!!! Born in Belgrade, Serbia. Maybe Thor and Spanky were those pups you are talking about...


Uploaded with ImageShack.us On the picture there are Thor and Spanky as puppies in Belgrade

 

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Cupria boy i stand corect my mistake im sorry i ment the parends that where IMPORTED where bred out of a son of grch sandman x ventje blood.

 

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No problem Limey!
@VAGABOND-Gde si bre druze,nema te nesto...

 

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You know its not a lie!!. im not taking ANYTHING away from booger producing quality. i met 4 of them!!!!. and saw others as wel. you bred carrie to two male dogs in the second breeding. i mentiond Bob at that show but Anita was presend there as wel .FWK didnt say anything he was there presend AND other dogman.. Dont play hanky panky with me. ch joker was one hell of a dog!. saw him twice. we met him ones. his sister was a good one to ,met her as wel. met two of the sec litter as wel. HELL i got a video of them on there yard in germany where they split there yard with Dollar kennels at the time. we spend the weekend there. you might be sirprized wat is talked about on the video.
The second litter was as close to the first litter as the earth and the nearest star in the univers. im sorry didnt meen to ofend you..... lets put up some foto,s of both litters prove me wrong!!!. il do my best as wel and dig in the argives as wel..

 

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yes vagabond thats what i ment. The country boys lost 28 out of 32 shows they did!!!!(no joke). they fell in the pure trap. ventje, was a REAL dead game dog. he lost from MR-Noby,s ch rocky a ace dog not na game dog. one from our bloodline lasted longest with him and actualy brought the cur out of him. but he was pickt up as wel..
had a couple of those country boys dogs in the early days they where bred so pure that they produced litters of 1 ore 2 pups and these dogs lookt like bat,s donkey backs and where rooting and eating in there own shit and loved it. they where compleatly bred to pieces. hensh the rezen they bred to the grch sandman son. what iventualy produced the Yankee dog. im going to ask how that male was bred. so you guys have someting to work with......

 

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Limey were you here when I breed the dogs ? Do you know anyone who was in my yard when carrie was breed NO you dont hanky panky my f ing ass pal I never played that ever . Both litters produced red dogs and a white dog and black and the same color as carrie . I give a shit who yard you were in or who bob split his yard with ! That bitch was breed to booger and only booger . There were no other stud dogs to breed to at my house but Booger at the time . The Yard was in another state Belive me limey you got no clue my friend !!!! Im not mad at you your just carrying tales my friend I been out of these dogs a long time now and dont give a shit about anything but the truth . Now between you and me the breeding is the way the papers say it is you and I were in this sport a long time Limey had many great dogs I give you my word no other stud breed carrie BUT CH BOOGER ROM...................

 

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I ""know"" what i know. no sense in having a pissing contest....il get more details tomorow, see if i can dig up some pictures as wel...

 

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Ok spoke to STB. he told me that it was the FIRST litter that carry was bred to Booger then to another dog(he tought Giouxs paddy but wassend sure as it is so long ago) then to booger again . this because carry started to bleed afther a couple of days.
this is wat HE heard but he cant remember if it was Bob telling him ore Ari v d wart.

As it is i swear to everyting that is holy to me that Bob told me!! and everybody presend at that time that only one litter was out of Booger Rom. ofcours its a very very long time ago, but Bob TOLD me at a confermation show. people presend where Detlef a german dogman from the past. FWK ,myself ,Anita a guy called Gino and Borderline kennels. overhere its wel known umongst the ""Older"" dogman from that era.
second litter produced Red nose dogs like ch spice. compleatly diferend animals then Ch joker litter .,..

Ok more info about Country boys ventje. I showed the picture of Yankee ,s parends as pups to stb and STB is sure these are from that same litter. he said there was a compleat white dog in that litter as wel, and his Sandman son had white feet to.. he also stated that these pups lookt nothing like the pure dogs i discribe them in the post above

It was STB who imported these Kimsy Wood dogs for the country boys ,who could not speak english. STB told me that Ventje aka Little Big man was out of ugly, but not out of snooty II , but was sired bij Morgans Charley!!.

STB told me the story ,how DR Kimsy Wood told him that them pure dogs would not perform!!!. the country boys stressed and insisted that they wanted pure dogs. as it was Kimsy wood bred ugly to Morgans Charly anyway.

in some old magazines you can see Ventje (little big man) with 2 pedegrees..
Mogans charly was a midnightcowboy bred dog i belive.
Ventje,s sister snootje produced a son called bart this dog distroid 4 dogs of ozzy stevens and Bill Bonner in one single day!!!! STB was presend.
he told me the rezen why they lost 28 out of 32 shows was because they where red neck farmers and lookt at every animal as life stok. the people they where up against where fast lane educated City slikkers.... Never the less these dogs ""in the beginning"" where top notch and a cut above the rest. so Yankee is bred way diferend then his ped sais. do you have more pictures of his littermates from the diferend litters. i can show to me frind STB....

 

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I must admit this is incredible story... It makes you wonder is there any true pedigree of dogs that we keep and feed... So, if I understand well Ventje aka Little Big Man was out of Ugly and Morgan's Charlie. Thor and Spanky were from the same litter. Their father was son of Rebel's CH Sandman. Is their mother sired by Ventje or some other dog ?

Another pic of Thor aka Chico and Spanky aka Lilly as young dogs:



More dogs from Thor x Spanky breeding:

Trisic's Spike 2W,1D




Mirza's Bugzy 2W,1L




S.Pop.Sons' Cia ROM

 

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Morgan's Charley:
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=3926

 

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Wel vagabond there you have it sometimes the truth comes out sooner ore later.
iv known this for a long time. me and STB didnt whant to bring it out as long as sirtin people where alive and ore stil emotional involved, altho i did give a couple of hints over the years.
STB grch sandman,s son had a wite dot on its nose as wel same as that pup. there is NO comperesing between these dogs and the pure bred inbred country boy dogs.the pictures you just put up confirms everyting we know, including that in the litter of Yankee rom,s parends was a compleat white pup as wel.
the way i understand it that STB Yankee,s parends(the pups out of the pictures) are out of Mogan,s charly and ventjes mother Ugly. so there is NO ventje in there!!!!!!!!!.

 

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sorry screw up ventje is out of mogans charly en ugly.

Pups are out of ugly and son of grch sandman ,who had some ch soso blood in him and some gator blood, mabey somebody could do a sand man ofspring sirts