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"Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by miakoda, May 5, 2006.

  1. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

    "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Ok, so now that i'm spending most of my days at the hospital with my grandmother & family, I had to have some reading material. So at Target, while looking for a good book, I came across this new book by Cesar Milan. And although there are some issues that I disagree wholeheartedly with him on, I have also come to realize that he has a lot of knowledge about dogs & dog behavior. Sooooo, I bought the book. Why not?

    Right now I'm about 2/3 of the way through the book and I must say I give the book "2 thumbs up". Which I must say, has totally surprised me. Throughout his book, the main mantra has been that "dogs are dogs & dogs MUST be treated as such". His second mantra is that dogs are working creatures & MUST have a job or they will go mentally crazy. All of this I agree with.

    He deals with the overall problem of Americans humanizing their dogs & labeling their dogs with human traits & using human psychology on them thereby getting no results with the animal & in fact, creating a dangerous dog in the process. He stresses that dogs need to be worked in some form of another & that dogs must earn their food....they should not be lazy couch potatos. He also goes into several different areas of dog behavior that he deals with in clients dogs & a lot of the info he gives is great training info.

    Anyways, to make a long story short, I DO think this is a decent book for all dog "pet owners" to read. It's also very easy to read & for those of you who insist upon working dogs remaining working dogs, you'd love it. ;)

    As for the things I dont' agree with? Well, I have a problem "rehabbing" & rehoming a dog that has bitten people on several occasions. It's called euthanasia & Cesar obviously has a problem with that procedure & prefers to take a chance....possibly a very deadly chance....with some of those dogs. And of course, I am adamantly against the whole "pit bulls belong in the pack too" mentality he's so determined to get across.

    Otherwise, if you've got a few bucks & a whole lot of down time, have a read. And for the people on here having issues with their dogs "my dog is too hyper" or "my dog won't listen to my commands" or "my dog won't walk on a leash" nice" etc, definitely READ this book.

    (& NO ONE better call me Oprah ;) I'm not in the book club)
     
  2. Ja-net

    Ja-net Banned

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Yeah if you didnt know he has his own show on cable Television in which he usually always specifies that animals should be treated like animals and not like human beings and thats one reason why BSL is getting stronger because alot of people view there own pets/animals as human beings.
     
  3. Suki

    Suki Guest

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    "He deals with the overall problem of Americans humanizing their dogs & labeling their dogs with human traits & using human psychology on them thereby getting no results with the animal & in fact, creating a dangerous dog in the process. He stresses that dogs need to be worked in some form of another & that dogs must earn their food....they should not be lazy couch potatos. He also goes into several different areas of dog behavior that he deals with in clients dogs & a lot of the info he gives is great training info"



    ok, I admit it, I'm an old fart, who has been dealing with animals, dogs inparticular for a long time.(30+ years), and I have ALWAYS thought humans personified their dogs WAAAAY too much, so, this was refreshing to me, to hear of this. I'm not real familar with Cesar:I've heard some good stuff, but, ideally, if people just realized that yeah, a dog is just that, a dog, (tho I've heard and read thru the years, dogs can be equated with having the understanding of a two year old child, but who can actually really know this), and treat it as such, then these so-called "problems" people seem to have regarding their canine companion probably wouldn't even have manifested themselves in the first place, if the dog was treated, quite simply, like a dog.
    Think like a dog does, and you will get FAR more a head in terms of breaking ground when training him/her.
    And yeah, since my bike's been trashed, (cry) and I'm waiting to see the surgeon, like you, Mia, I'm fillin my head with all kinds of good reading stuff!
    (Can't even pick up a motorcycle mag yet, tho......:( )
    Glad you enjoyed the read! Tx for passing that on, Mama!
     
  4. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Mia -

    When you speak of the pack do you mean a multi dog pack, or a human family with a pit bull in it "pack"? Interested in your thoughts.

    Suki -

    Dang girl, sorry to hear about your bike...hope you are OK, I feel your pain!!!!
     
  5. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    I know little about this man, but to answer your question mydawgs, he believes pitbulls should be in a "pack" with other dogs also. He has a yard full of dogs that run around together, that group includes pitbulls, rottweilers, and other dog-aggressive breeds.
     
  6. mikefromMD

    mikefromMD Top Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Love the show. I always wonder how he gets all those dogs to get along in the pack... I guess he let's mother nature do it.

    I have been using some of his techniques on my new girlfriend viscious a$$ chow chow / shepard cross... She thinks I'm nuts. I've tried to explain the humanizing part to my girlfriend but she don't "get it".

    Maybe I'll buy the book and leave it on her coffee table....
     
  7. Miss Conduct

    Miss Conduct CH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    yup, i've seen a few of his shows. i feel the same way about him that mia does, i comp agree on many issues, but there are a few that i def dont.

    One show a lady was terrified of "pit bulls" so he took her in the middle of his "pit bull pack"..... 2 of the dogs started cur snaping right next to the lady.. i knew that was coming...

    but besides some issues, i think MANY people should watch his show/read the book (which i am going to pick up). Too many damn people treat their dogs like children. There is NOTHING wrong with loving your animals, but remember they ARE animals and cannot differenciate (sp?) things like humans can. It does create a dangerous dog when you treat them like kids, i mean look at all the damn lap dogs!! They are SOOOO bad because they are treated like children!

    bottom line- love your animals, but treat them like animals should be treated
     
  8. Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Hmmmm...strange thing or? ;)
     
  9. JuicyCa

    JuicyCa Big Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    When he talks about the pack leader, he means that you, as the owner, are to be the pack leader. He has all of these tricks and does this bite thing with his hand to show dominance. I watch the show all the time and he's worked WONDERS with some of the dogs. One dog was so aggressive that his owners had to put a muzzle on him in the house and if they touched him he'd freak out and try to attack. It was some Japanese breed-I can't think of the name. It might have been a Shiba Inu. He has more Pit Bulls than any other type of dog in his pack, and all the dogs seem to get along fine.

    I personally love his show, and have used a couple of his techniques with my dogs, and they do work. He's coming to Oklahoma City this summer, and I'll definitely be there!
     
  10. tommy3

    tommy3 CH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    What is the name of the book?
     
  11. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Folks...he's only going to show the times it works. To me, he is only a little better than Jon Edwards (remember "Crossing over"?). He does have some wonderful techniques, and seem to work well for him (hell, on tv he is 100 % successful with every dog, of every breed, every time, in every situation!). But thats just it, its on tv and they arent going to show his mistakes. Its a scam, show only the times it works, and disregard the rest and you are falsely leading people to believe they can do things they cannot.
     
  12. game_test

    game_test Top Dog

  13. mikefromMD

    mikefromMD Top Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Is it a scam??? How do you know?? 100%, for sure, that it's a scam??? Facts, please?????Stop "hating"
     
  14. Miss Conduct

    Miss Conduct CH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    I Dont Think That Rock Is "hating" On Him, Just Stating An Oppinion, In Which Is True- That It Doesnt Always Work. Not Everydog Can Be "fixed", And If/when He Has Failed, They Sure As Hell Arent Going To Show That On Tv
     
  15. mikefromMD

    mikefromMD Top Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    but no one knows for sure unless you are somehow connected w/ the show. Of course it MAY not work all the time, but I'd be willing to bet it works"the vast majority" of times... but of course i really do not know because I am not on the show....
     
  16. scooter

    scooter Big Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    I enjoy watchin the show and like most everybody else i agree with 99% of his stuff. He really does some cool stuff with animals.
     
  17. mydawgs

    mydawgs CH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    I think Ceasars claim to fame is dog behavior. When dealing with behavior there are no hard and fast fixes, it is a process and it depends very strongly on how well you read your dog. That is Ceasars greatest talent (IMHO), he reads dogs well. For me I could not stand one minute putting my Staff in a room full of dogs, trained or not, because I feel I know her true nature, and although I have taken the leadership away from her, in my mind there will always be a struggle of nature vs nurture for her. She has always loved me but now she respects me too, but when it comes to other dogs she fights everything she is to respect me....so Rock is correct in observing that folks see Ceasar on TV for 30 minutes and do not see the big picture, thinking what he does is absolute and fast...it is not and to think it is may put someone in danger.
     
  18. GSDbulldog

    GSDbulldog CH Dog

    Re: "Cesar's Way" by Cesar Milan

    Honestly, I don't like the man. Rumor would have it that he only recently got into dog training, & doesn't really have 20+ years of experience. Who knows? While he is doing good with the pit bull breed, he's also doing a good amount of bad. Some Average Joe will no doubt see his pack of pit bulls & say "Hey, I can do this too". Well, how many pit bull-type dogs do you think are capable of living in harmony with one another?



    He does know his stuff though, but so do hundreds of other trainers and behaviorists. Hell, the PetSmart trainer who is helping me work with Pixie is wonderful. So, get his book, read it. But if you treat your dog like you should, it's not an important purchase.
     
  19. Judy

    Judy CH Dog

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    I've heard a lot of controversy about this man, and I haven't watched his shows. But the book sounds like a good read, I think I'll buy it, thank you Mia.
     
  20. Bullyboi

    Bullyboi CH Dog

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    I like watching his show...it coming on tonight.
     

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