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CH Black Mup.

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by Titch_Pitbull, Sep 12, 2013.

  1. Titch_Pitbull

    Titch_Pitbull Top Dog

    Would like some info on his history?
     
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  2. plane

    plane Big Dog

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [106707] :: TOSKE'S BLACK MUP 5W, 1L
    TOSKE'S BLACK MUP

    First I'll tell you how the Black Mup lost against Silver. Pera, owner of Silver retract mach few times. All that time Black Mup was in full training.
    During match Black Mup dominated and viewers are saying that there was no way out of Silver.
    During one separation when both owners had dogs in their hands Silver "accidentally" escaped from Peras hands and bite Black Mup close eye. Dogs were quickly separated, but eye began to impale.Blck Mup continued to dominate, but Silver increasingly began working head. Finally the time for skrec come .
    Black Mup moved forward but could not find Silver because both of his eyes were closed and his nose was covered in blood. So that in his attempt to find Silver he hit pit wall.
    In that match owners had huge role. Pera who was one of the best dogmens, and Toske who was a good man but often stubborn and complete ignorant about dogs.
     
  3. Titch_Pitbull

    Titch_Pitbull Top Dog

    Was wondering if Lord Boris would like to comment on this edition of events regarding the posts made in the gr ch silver thread
     
  4. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Well dam "accident" huh, I'd like others input but in my opinion if you accidentally let your dog go when your not suppose to that ends the contest


    March isn't the only month for Madness!!
     
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  5. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    i see cajun rules sure would have helped here . the 20 second scratch .
     
  6. grove

    grove Big Dog

    It is accurate story!
     
  7. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    no problem mate,u should just tell me in other topic or via inbox to answer here,i am not good with this forum and i missed this.

    what can i tell about mup?

    fight is postponed 3 times,mup had owner who is not so good as some others. he feed dog with a meat pie,then he put 20-30 kg chains on him to pull 1+hours,threadmill,springpole,everything in one day. it was molesting of the dog basicly.
    fight was postponed 3 times and mup start with training,stop with training. dog was overworked. then fight was again on on less then 2 week notice.
    still,in fight,mup completly dominated. people say silver stopped his offensive style. no he isnt, fight is online,anybody can see it. mup did had a hold of silver,he opened his chest inside 10 mins.
    at 1st screch, silver got free of pera and bite mup and make a cut on eye. they seprate him for 10 seconds. after 30 mins eye got swolen and silver worked other eye and mup was blind on scretch,he didnt stop. he was counted,silver made scretch and then they put mup again,this time,he knew where silver is and he did scretch.
    pera made fould in last scretch of silver also,so 2 fouls in a fight.

    silver was ace,top class and he could match anybody.

    mup,mup wasnt a dog,he wasnt an animal,he was an monster and psychopat. i dont think no dog can beat him when he is in good hands and on 100%.
    he is something like god in this.
    even on that day,in such conditions,i dont think any other dog could beat him beside silver. i even believe silver wouldnt beat him in same conditions in other match. it was just a lucky cut above the eye,it happens...


    no,he was just blind... he wouldnt do it anyway in that 1st one. there is even story that kid u can see in video called him by name and took his attention. u can see mup raised head to try to see but he couldnt find silver. 10 seconds more wouldnt help i believe...
     
  8. pitodogge

    pitodogge Pup


    Was he really a psychopat?
     
  9. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    I have him on DVD an he was something special. At least in what I saw of him.
     
  10. redwar

    redwar Big Dog

    If the Silver camp fouls twice, then he did not lose Silver lost by way of fouls?. Mup MUp was the shit.
     
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  11. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    how to u mean? he wasnt man aggressive or something like that, with that i wanted to say he was freaq of nature,not a dog but a monster. GOAT in my eyes.

    At 1 point,he was open to all world,up to 100 000 euros with no takers.

    i do have all of his fights and 3 rolls,everything documented on him and i will upload it in some time so others can see this magnificant animal... After him,everything looks worse. I guess every dogmen search dog like mup in his dogs.

    well owner of mup didnt ask for fouls. he wasnt a good handler or owner or conditioner. he just had luck to get such freaq.
    he was also pride,i am sure that even if he knew how to ask foul,he wouldnt do it cause he wouldnt want to win like that.

    mup fought against silver,against golden king and against his own owner mr.tosic. and even with this, 1 foul and bad luck was needed to be defeated.
    how do u mean he was shit?
     
  12. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    He means mup was a good dog, it's American slang.
     
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  13. redwar

    redwar Big Dog

    Boris,Let me try and clarify. not he "was shit" but he was "the" shit, meaning he was an awesome dog, I have seen his work and I really like what I saw(video quality was garbage though(meaning bad, no good)I was paying the dog a compliment but I guess I chose a poor way to say it, I was not thinking about worlwide translations. and what AGK stated
     
  14. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    thx for explanation...

    i guessed u made a typo and wanted to write he was sick (in terms good) but i know slang he is the shit too.

    When i upload all of his videos,i will ask here in topic who wants the link in inbox.

    quality is shit (and i really mean shit haha) but it was recorded 15 years ago.

    I forgot to say that mup didnt fought in his pit weight,he was always above it.
    in a fight,silver was little lighter them him but if mup was at someones else,i am sure he could go up to 0.5 kg down,probably even more...
     
  15. shaman

    shaman Big Dog

    Good info this, thank you
     
  16. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Boris was the cross ever tried with the Silver / Mup blood..I would have liked to saw something down from that cross.
     
  17. redwar

    redwar Big Dog

    Boris how did both dogs produce? are there dogs down from either of them Silver or Mup Mup which are as good or better than these two were? or did the blood fade away? Are people still using this blood? Also 15 yrs or not the quality was terrible maybe too many copies or something but man the camera must have been 70yrs old for quality that bad.
     
  18. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    u r welcome

    huh,i am not sure... last son of mup died last year (mupovac).

    toske died,he sold out all dogs and mup bloodline was shut down. only he had this blood. others had puppy or 2,but he didnt breed much and he didnt sell much.
    so u can find now grandson of mup,breeded into completly different blood and there is no success in that.

    mup gave best dogs when he breed snooty bitchies and he was snooty himself. it was offensive dogs with good bite. if he was at better breeder and if his blood was mantained,i would probably keep his blood.

    golden king did had 1 double granddaughter of mup,but she died in kennel accident (1 bitch broke chain and killed her).


    mup breed very few bitchies and he is por. i believe he would be rom if he breeded like most dogs did and same goes for silver.


    mup blood have dogs like these:
    MAK'S MUPER
    TOSKE'S BLACK DENNY
    WORMDITT'S (G.M.'S) BEN
    as i said,his owner sold out kennel,died, dogs went to the wrong hands and this blood was shut down,on our bad luck. its so sad that such warrior didnt had oportunity to leave something behind him.

    silver in other hand wasnt breed much neither,but gave dogs like:
    GOLDEN KING'S FIDA
    GOLDEN KING'S OPAR
    GOLDEN KING'S OXA

    u can also see many other winners if u trace pedigrees. gr ch kid is half silver blood:
    GOLDEN KING'S KID

    just almost all of the dogs of silver blood r at golden king kennel. he didnt sold many dogs (he started in last year). if he had bad luck like tosic (owner of black mup), we wouldnt had nothing from silver blood neither today.

    so golden king use silver blood even today,we just breeded 1 pure silver bitch with gr ch kid before 1 week so its 3/4 silver blood.

    now kid is main producer in his yard and we expect a lot from his offspring.

    hahaha,no,copies is not the problem. this is converted from vhs tapes,so we cant blame the copy. no body doesnt have better quality then this.
    only thing that is good quality is fight against silver if i am correct.
     
  19. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [86] :: WOOD'S SNOOTY (2XW)(2XL). Ok have a look at Snootys ped and u shall see he was 2 times Fitzwaters Goldie in the 4th ..Who was Fitzwaters Goldie ? He was the grandsire of Sorrells Bull who became the foundation dog behind Sorrells blood.So that blood is closer related than you were able to see.Again I think it was a mistake not to try this cross.The cross has been done here in the states with sucess.
     
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  20. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    If you look in the second generation you will see Butcherboy who was 2 times Fitzwaters Goldie in 2nd and 3 rd generation.Goldie was 70 percent Lightner and 30percent Colby .Ok your boy Silver was a rednose dog and with his style he prob pulled more from the OFRN side .Ok Mup did not pull from the OFRN genes but yet the Sorrells and Snooty is closer kin than u see.I believe it would have been worthy of a try to cross these 2 bloods.You had 2 bloodlines that was close kin and each ones weakness was the others strength.. Would have been very interesting..
     
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