Dreaded parvo again !!

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no its gone...rip

 

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fact nothing, 80% don't die because they go to the vet. Fact is I have seen more survive parvo and distemper than die in the last couple years. An none of the treatment plans included tamiflu for the parvo. Infact we don't even keep it on the shelf.

 

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Sounds to me like your dogs either have Parvo or Distemper.
check the link...
http://perfectpuppycare.com/five-most-common-puppy-diseases/

 

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In the last 7 years I have seen damn near all make it. And none have used Tamiflu.

DG I do not know where you get your facts. I would say the % is more like 85 - 95 make it. It all depends on how clinical they are. How depleted they are when they come in.

From your posts sound like you were doing fluids under the skin. That is called Sub Q not IV. People keep saying tube feed. That will only make them vomit more. Parvo causes dogs to shed the lining of the intestine. They need anti vomiting meds (cerenia, reglan), IV fluids with additives to maintain hydration. Injectable antibiotics to help prevent secondary infections.

Parvo is a virus and you can not kill a virus. A virus has to run it's course. And treatment is suppotive care. To support the dog while the VIRUS runs it course. There is no cure. Vaccines are modified live virus. That way the pup is exposed to a modified version of the virus to build antibodies to it.

 

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^-----The best post on this entire garbage ass thread. (with the exception of the information posted from C.J.) lol it's funny to look down and see all the people currently viewing this thread....I gotta laugh, I feel bad that you lost them pups, but DG, you should skim back through all the crap on this thread and you will see some very good advice from people who know what they are talking about. JM2C
Boogiemans posts included. (minus all the shit talking which isnt much help but every now and then people need a good scoulding for not doing whats right for the animals in their care and a visit to the vet would have helped you more than you seem to want to admit.

 

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Sorry for the bad news D-G. My condolences to you.

 

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cynthia , i said feed cottage cheeze and sulfur . then when the pup start to eat some you can add can food . yes the dog will puke and sh** but the cottage cheeze coat the stomach and the sulfur cleans the infection out . does the vet you tech for give parvo shots every year for the dog ?

 

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sorry mis-type over 80% die ..not survive cynthia

 

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Again teays ago i had a pup with parvo & took to the vet watch him do what needed to be done he told me things & pup still died & paid over 600 bucks for a dead dog , then i have used my knowledge to treat it myself & saved 1 & tried again lost 2 , for all you haters , i did what was best , 2 dogs with parvo was 150 bucks a a day x 2 300 bucks a day x 5 days of recommended treatment from the vet thats over 1,500 bucks .. Im sorry i have a family & yes i do have a good job , but i cant shit out that much money in a week & survive !!! I know i did the best i could & did it right !!!

 

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why didnt you call Ca Jack? You even said he's known for helping newbies

 

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No current studies are that vaccines last longer than 1year. So the current protocol where I am currently employed is they go through their puppy series. Get boosted at 1yr. The vaccine DA2LPPV ( distemper, adenovirus type 2, parainfluenza, and parvovirus) is good for 3 years however since lepto is only good for 1 year that has to be boosted yearly if they are a high risk.

The thing about vomiting is that they not only vomit up what they ate they also vomit up fluids in addition. Therefore it does more harm than good.First thing we do is NPO (nothing by mouth) the animal. You have to give the stomach and intestines a rest. Shit the intestines are slothing off. The LAST thing they need is anything in it. Their gut is on fire. The IV fluids with additives keep them nourished while the VIRUS runs it course.

Again not sure where you are getting your statistics from. But in my professional career if the pup is brought in and on IV fluids the survival rate is 85-95%. Unless the pup is brought in on deaths door. Then of course that goes down. In my years I have only seen about 4 die out of a few hundred.

 

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I am not saying that you did not do the best you could. However it was not the best medically for the pups. And yes sad to say it did contribute to their death.

 

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your so fucking wrong ..ive done everything a vet would have done ! Period !!! Call them & ask a vet ..they will tell you the chances are still slim to none & all we can do is keep the hydrated & some anti-biotics !! Alot of so called self-proclaimed experts around here !

 

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you haven't done everything a DVM would have done LOL. You did every thing you knew how to do. No need to be a prick to Cynthia. She may not be so willing to give you advice when you need it next time. With your attitude and limmited knowledge you will loose more than you will save.

 

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Sorry I can call every Vet I know and they will tell me you did not do what was best for your pups. I will ask the 3 I tech for tomorrow and they will tell me you did not.

The pup needed IV fluids not Sub Q (what you did). The pup needed Potassium and B Complex in the Lactated Ringer. Not distilled/purified water that you gave Sub Q. The pup needed Cerenia and or Reglan which you did not have. The pup needed inject able antibiotics which I am sure you gave Pen G. But there are better antibiotics to use.

No their chance is not slim to none if properly treated. I have the personal experience with 100s of cases in the 7 1/2 years in the Veterinary field. In those we lost around 4 that I can remember. And ALL came in on deaths door.

I understand you did what you could. And you could not afford to treat. That is why I sent you that PM asking if you were close because I would have helped you with the IV catheter and fluids and maybe have gave your pup a fighting chance.

I am not jumping down your throat. I am being honest and real.

 

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wasnt saying its 100%but it helps more then nothing and as good as the exspensive vet bought stuff.thats why i repeat several times.after spraying it sits longer then 10 min on the soil.

 

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I asked the Vet yesterday about that. And they laughed. You are risking infection and like a pup with parvo needs that.

Only a few should be used for Sub Q . Lactated ringers, 0.9% saline, Ringer's, Normosol-R, and Plasmalyte are most commonly used. The fluids need to be sterile. Purified water is not.

LOL Sub Q fluids will do nothing if a dog is severly dehydrated. They need IV fluids. Sub Q fluids on better than nothing However with a virus such as parvo they need IV fluids of they are vomiting.

There are many Home remdies. And I know some pups survive But it is not the best option.

 

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Yes it is better than nothing at all but it does not clear the environment.

And bleach mixture is fine. It works the same as all the others.

 

wow good luck with your pup hope she pulls through