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Greatest Dog of the British Isles....

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by DogMan85, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    I know the we started the ball rolling for the Americans when we shipped our Pit Dogs over the pond all those years ago but they improved our dogs through selective breeding without a doubt.

    I guess in some small circles some dogmen over these parts kept their dogs true to form but I think most would agree they weren't quite the all round fightung dogs the Americans had.

    I know when the Bulldog boom came back over here in the 70's and 80's we started importing dogs off the Americans and had some good results. I know Ed Reid made a name for himself and bred some very handy dogs indeed which beat some well known dogmen.

    What do you think are the best dogs the British Isles have ever seen, opinions please......
     
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  2. Robertosilva

    Robertosilva CH Dog

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  3. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Yep Max was a good one and beat the bigger Limey's Smokey, a very impressive feat despite his win being controversial. Those dogs had some wind alright...
     
  4. impossible to say if you never saw them all....for starters gr ch bill, gr ch nikki, ch bj, ch max, gr ch myra would be up there.
     
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  5. lamp

    lamp Big Dog

    Me, Limey dogs for their achievements from a good breeding program keeping a small gene pool for maximum results.
     
  6. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Which dog is your fave?
     
  7. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Wasn't Nikki a Limey/Mayfield dog?
     
  8. lamp

    lamp Big Dog

    Where do I start ,Dutch not only was he a good dog but he produced but dogs like ghoster who lost to the roosters Lisa and hector L2 W1 but had the heart of a lion,look at neilson Dutch bred and at his weight was outstanding but when he lost to dread something like 15lb to 20lb up hill they questioned him why ? He was entitled to, Dread was a good big dog.
     
  9. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    I thought Dutch was a bitch who produced Popeye (ROM) and CH Neilson??!
     
  10. lamp

    lamp Big Dog

    I just read it and he should of been she sorry and when put back to her sire did produce springviews Popeyes and east ends neilson
     
  11. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    Ch Dutch was a gyp that stopped in her last. Hector was her brother, he was a 2xL. Ghoster was a younger sister from the 2nd Nelis/Tug mating's.
    Ch Neilson is rom, Popeye isn't thought of as a legit rom by ppl around during that era. Ch Dread was an ok dog that never met one as large as himself.
     
  12. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Max must have been a hell of a dog to beat the bigger Smokey....
     
  13. lamp

    lamp Big Dog

    There you go,my first dog came of dirty H so I was around the first litter of tug X Neil's I think that was the hector / prudance litter at the time he had Bruno wise bred the second litter was ghoster/ fatso litter I think,like I said dread was a good big dog but would he have been as good at 45lb ? Jury out on Popeye they said he quit ? But told another story.
     
  14. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Aren't Syrius kennels running Limey dogs?
     
  15. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    If anyone reads J Kelly's book Smokey had previously lost/quit in the US in 11 min after his two prior wins. Fatso from the first Nelis/Tug litter. Prudence from Spike/Tug.
     
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  16. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    As for what was the greatest is an impossible question to answer. No only have you the titled dogs to choose from there were a few around that never gained a title that were every bit as good as any titled dog I saw.
     
  17. lamp

    lamp Big Dog

    Fuck me I must be getting old I new these breedings inside out but that must have been 30 years ago I had one out of Bruce's bella
     
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  18. lamp

    lamp Big Dog

    Good post fella , that was my point to many dogs written of that shouldn't have so easy like the Lisa bitch and ch dogs that wasn't herd of mad Albert,college boys Dutch.
     
  19. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    More than 30 lol. Bruce's Bella I heard the name, never knew how she was bred or ever saw her. Isn't she the gyp hooked into Tug but was over weight when they took the forfeit?
     
  20. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Smokey quit twice before the Limey's got him? Did they know about this?
     

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