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Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by FrankDublin, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. FrankDublin

    FrankDublin CH Dog

  2. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    Your pm has been answered, Frank. Happy New Year to you and to all.

  3. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion Premium Member

    Dam that dog is bred nice
  4. FrankDublin

    FrankDublin CH Dog

    I'm interested in this blood though, any more accounts for his offspring or production record
  5. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    When I used Junior Jr as a cross, he produced in one litter of 5.......Bay Bay, 1x w and 1x game loser in 2:36; ZuZu, 1x w over a 4x w; CoCo, 1xw over a 4xw; and GR CH BJ, 6x. That's the accounting I can give you. Oh yeah. In that litter was CH Jake's mama. He traveled a long way to beat another 2x in what I believe was around 2:12. Hope it helps, Frank.
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  6. Lonewolf

    Lonewolf Big Dog

    Im not sure but I think Jake beat a 3X winner for his last. I have also heard that Jake produced many more bulldogs than not. The line as a whole seems to have produced many more bulldogs than not. ; )
  7. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    Damn. Sorry, that was a typo. The dog was a ch, and I typod there. I've gotten lots of great word on Jake's production. I know that using those particular dogs surely did serve me well, amigo, lone. And I know they have you, too. My best for your future with them, my friend.

  8. FrankDublin

    FrankDublin CH Dog

    Yeah tdk it helps me want this blood evenmore I talked to a couple people and asked if i would be able to get a dog from you and they pretty much told me id do better tryn to get a dog from don Mayfield him self it would help if you could point me in the right directionthough im in Houston tx.
  9. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    The biggest difficulty I see is that I know of no one who has it and doubled on it to preserve it with good mutts but myself, along with a scant few of my associates I put a few with.
    As I had said, I used it as a cross to my own family of scruffs, and it did me very well, so I preserved it through a good dog in CoCo.

    I've crossed very little in all the years compared to many. All that being said, I'll see if I can gather any info that may help you. I'll pm and you are welcome to check with me in pm anytime you like. The likelihood is small, but if I ever choose to infuse it more heavily into my family of mutts, and I do have that resource, I will also let you know. Good luck, Frank.
  10. FrankDublin

    FrankDublin CH Dog

    Thanks tdk any help of yours is appreciated
  11. bollybok

    bollybok Pup

    Handsom was a deacent dog ,there was no way he could show himself because there where only 4ore 5 pit bulls at that time ,he was to only dog at that weight.I dont know ive its big secret but he was out of parricks cheng leng when bross bought him from patrick ,later when he became ch patrick chanced his pedigree as he was out of bolio.

  12. TDK,

    I don't know from which group of people you are so maybe I tell ya some you already know, but there have been others with this blood in the states.

    One is dead now, I don’t know if there were any left and were they have gone.

    The other I know of is keeping real low, but what I’ve heard he and his son were still using it...!

    They are still around but will be hard to find indeed.
  13. bollybok

    bollybok Pup

    Ch speedy and ch harley won i believe a total of 9 fights and crew up together,they where bred by cobra kennels and he did n exellent job with them and never ,never ducked nobody .Cobra was a fine exemple of how a dogman should be and everybody respected him.We had some excellent dogman around in those years and i can asure you keystone was not one of them
  14. bollybok

    bollybok Pup

    Later on they crossed the handsom blood into dogs from d brod (rascal)and got some good looking ones ,i believe they did sent some of the pups to rushing bill

  15. You said it bollybok.....
  16. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    not nice to hear that pat did that .....but for what he did change that ped ..what was bringing him .. doing that ...just for that ch tittle. ? why should bros lying about this .. he had contact with pat ..and he bought him as a son of cheng leng ......
    so sting cople of years ltr and did not got changed with handsome ...but a other one ..meaby a brother ...
    Hench the point of 3 CH sleeping next to eachother and what should this say about the quality of those dogs.
    they sleep next to eachother ?and hang out of the window together ......what you mean ?
    did they produce something ?

  17. TDK

    TDK CH Dog Staff Member

    I'm not from any group, my friend. I used those dogs as a cross to my family and very glad I did, as it turns out. I just don't know of any others who have kept it alive within their dogs or family of dogs in my case as have I. No one living. Rushin Bill and I were partners in our early days. I KNEW those dogs up close and personal, and I have always liked some pretty heavy Bolio as a cross to my family via CERTAIN good ones, and he had gotten some from Rudy.

    It isn't going to be easy to help Frank, but I am going to try, and with the chance I may further preserve that cross to mine in a future breeding, I'll hope I can help him in that capacity. I already have double on my CoCo dog and can increase that at will, as I have some pretty decent ol' mutts off him from other breedings I made here. No guarantees, just hope I can help him in some way.

    Bill and Rudy had a falling out, but I remained far away friends with Rudy. He was the first European I became fully respectful of, and then later a few others.
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  18. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

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  19. who

    who Top Dog

  20. who

    who Top Dog

    That bottom side is where our snowboy dog was related to..

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