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how many Reid crosses was there?....lets try and list em all.

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by Soze the killer, Nov 3, 2019.

  1. stickler

    stickler Banned

    And @Soze the killer your spelling really looks pretty much like Big D.'s.
    Limey is back. lol
     
  2. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Can't say I ever noticed any obvious traits or differences that could be put down to coat colour on dogs I saw mate.. I owned 4 sons of Scotsman's Max, 2 were out of Tania who was 'unknown pedigree' so that's half the picture lost already, the other 2 were out of a tight Wise Max bred female with one being an outstanding head and throat dog and the other a cur.. Also saw a red litter brother to those dogs called Hell's Jock's Boss that was average at best but very game.. If you was looking for jaw dropping mayhem, then Archie was the man and he was red.. CH. Bash was a good producer that threw brindle, reds and buckskins and either one as good as the other.. I think if you bred on the Kingfish/Skipper dogs then it was likely you'd get majority of brindle, a few reds and buckskins in the mix and a high % making it to the woods in varying styles.. Sheena Black's owner once told me Sheena was best producing female in the UK and you'd have seen by the dogs I owned that I believed him! Sheena was a wrecking machine, and if people out there choose to question her gameness because she stopped in #4 after being way ahead against Limey's Miss Fox, then surely we need to ask those same questions about Scotsman's Max after he hesitated and Limey's called foul against Smokey, and also Hagar after he stopped 'twice' in school.. If we really want to understand these dogs and their legacy, then I think we need to dispense with the prejudice and propaganda in equal measure and call it straight! :-B
     
  3. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Old wifes tales, lies and halftruths it is all in the game.

    Country Boy's Ventje, had the name to be a terrible maneater, didn't had any trouble with him the day I patted him on the head.
    Mayby it was pure luck that day, who knows.

    Not to trust around people, a much unwanted trait according the standard, and not without reason.
    From the tons of bulldogs I saw 90% were okay around people, as it should be.
     
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  4. Forever-So REAL

    Forever-So REAL Quintuple Grand Champion

    I couldn't find the thread when Limey was talking about the black mouth I know he didn't say black spots most have black spots
    Black Chance is and example of what he was talking about lol... solid black
    stud_4.jpg
    Garner's Black Chance is one of the best grandson's of Garner's Spike and Garner's Chinaman alive today. Garner's Black Sis is an excellent bitch out of Garner's Chinaman bred to my old Buckie bitch, who was one of the tightest Eli Jr. bred bitches in the world.
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=1057
    lol..
     
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  5. Sir I read an interview once from a guy called harris he had dna on all his dogs and concluded he didnt get the answers he was looking for
    I wondered why so I dug into it

    he was sort of right but dna can give u one answer
    it will tell you who passed the most dna , sire or damn
    dig deep educate yourself

    its a wonderful journey until you come to the point where after u leaned so much u need to learn more

    some say I cook some great food and always have the finest rum and can tell the best lies in the world
    when u leave my place I guarantee u will leave with the feeling u met the greatest story teller in the world
     
  6. the black mouth is very interesting so I did a walk
    checked all them lips and than realized damn these girls when aroused them pussy change from pink to a light shade of red
    I asked them what bloodline they were from , and they all said , yours pappi
     
  7. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I'll drink to that man haha! =D>
     
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  8. I recall slivovitza is your poison
    let me know @oldguy its about time u come hear some bullshit I will invite @F.W.K. and I will sit in the middle of the table and ask fwk what happened at Bobby
     
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  9. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    =))
    I drank Irish Poteen and some pretty suspect Scotch Whisky, but never in my life before did I forget the name of a friend I known more than 30 years after just a few glasses of that Czech aeroplane fuel haha! Love to come back mate, I'll bring a sand timer so you can restrict my ranting about Reid dogs haha! 15 minutes and then I have to shut up :))
    A day spent with you and FWK is easily summed up in 2 words man! 'Honour and pleasure!'
     
  10. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Should be fun to break down the black mouth theory @Bulldoghistorian and @oldguy , or we find out that dogs with such a mouth are the best invention since slicest bread. If that's the case the founder of the '' black mouth '' theory will get a '' medal for proven wisdom ''. If we can't get it proven then we'll have a good laugh about it.
     
  11. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    You know what will happen @F.W.K. we start out talking very serious and profound about black mouths and DNA, we drink some fine rum, then @Bulldoghistorian starts talking about his dogs pussy and the conversation descends into chaos, I start singing country songs or talking Reid dogs (don't know which is worse) and nobody remember what the fuck we talked about next morning haha! Imagine what happen if we was writing pedigrees before the rum came out haha!
     
  12. One time I landed in Belfast an old friend called stevie B picked me up , he was at the exit of the gateway with a bottle of irish poteen and a glass
    he said Jesus welcome to heaven , he lied , it was hell what a beautiful place
    anytime old man we will talk truth about family and lie about the great dogs we had
     
  13. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    I met Stevie B around the time Bill met Oz and must say what a nice human being.. What a knowledge, what a competitor.. Game to the core, I liked him!
     
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  14. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Pulling someone's leg is a hobby for @Bulldoghistorian, just like he have a keen eye for a bulldog.
    '' Oz '' and his other wellknown littermates, all bulldog history.
     
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  15. stedz

    stedz Top Dog

    I would love to have a drink with you bunch of fuckin looney dog men lol.
     
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  16. it would be a hounr man..

    And thanks to you all for joining in guys.


    Hey...its been a honour for me just taking to you all on the board.
     
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  17. Woodsy

    Woodsy Pup

    Hello Old Guy I'm new to this whole forum thing so I'm unsure how it all works and I'm not sure if it's a bit late to reply to this old thread. I'm really enjoying it because the Reid's dogs have always been my thing. I hope you don't mind me mentioning this but I think it's important that people know. The first dog you put up on here the champion Krugar dog. I have no idea how it's on peds online as a champion because it's not. I remember it very well and I knew the owners and it was never worked. It was a beautiful looking dog and it won all the conformation shows that Ed Reid used to have back in the 80s. It just makes you wonder how much other misinformation is on that online pedigree site. He was a cracking looking dog but no champion. Hell if he's a champion cos of Ed's shows then I must have at least two grand champions :-?:-?:))
    Oh and what about the weight pull champions =))
    No I think online peds should be accountable for putting out bulshit =D>
     
  18. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Thanks mate, appreciate you putting that one right, never knew the dog so thanks for pointing that out.
     
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  19. Woodsy

    Woodsy Pup

    He
    Yes Old Guy I have to agree with everything you say about them reid's dog's I had dog's directly from Ed Reid back in the 80s and I have tried al sorts of blood since and been bitterly disappointed. Even if I got a game dog with some mouth then that's all I got. The reid's dog's were the full package they had mouth, smarts,wrestling ability, wind and real durability. They could really take a beating underneath and just take it and add to that they were good looking dogs. A chap I knew from Basildon area south east went all the way up north and bred his bitch to the Bash dog. His bitch was out of oxbulls Katie bred back to reid's Skipper making her double bred skipper . Two of them pups inadvertently came my way. This was just after the dda laws had come in and just walking my dog's wasn't easy so I placed them elsewhere. One didn't turn out but the other one in the right hands could of been a phenomenon. She was a dark red bitch with a white blaze. The geezer who had her was an Asian friend of mine who didn't have much of a clue but he kept her fit and raced her into everything otc big or small male or female. She was everything a bulldog should be and more. She had all those traits that the kingfish dogs had. She got a wombe infection and had to be spayed so he dumped her in some drugy hovel council house where she was later seized and destroyed and he moved on from smoking weed to injecting heroin. People say to me that I looked back all the time at the reid's dog's with rose coloured spectacles but they are wrong. I kept my first reid's dog I ever had till he died at 15 years that meant he was between 7 and 12 when I tried other lines and even at that old age he was far too good to use as a school teacher for these fresh young strong dogs. He would just wreck them. I lived near London back then and my home was like a social club for dog men and they all used to belittle me for owning my reid's dog's kept telling me to get a fast lane Nellis dog or something else more fashionable =))=))
    As for the Rangitang dog being people aggressive I didn't know that I see him at Ed's place in Lincoln and he was a friendly dog. Ed had a problem with the Brutus dog he turned completely unsound almost overnight and Ed got the vet to come round and destroy him. He also contacted people who had dog's down from him and warned tthem.Ed Reid was always fair with me and I think a lot of people just labelled him unfairly as a peddler. He once said to me what do these people expect am I supposed to go to all the trouble and expense of importing these dogs and breeding them just to give them away? He said what is it with the English why is profit such a dirty word.
    People were buying dogs off Ed breeding and selling the pups for more than Ed ever charged. I purchased dogs from all sorts but Ed Reid was the only person I actually paid a fair price and got sound healthy people friendly and actually game dogs. I had one other dog years later from other lines that was truly game but she was not physically sound and she was blind. My friends had dog's from ch Neilson or Sam they called him. Some of these dogs were good they were the only dogs that would force my dog into actually pacing himself in the race instead of going balls out like he did with anything else. My friend had a really good bitch down from ch Neilson but he always said he would swap her tomorrow for a good Skipper dog. Most of the people who were coming round mine all shit themselves when the laws came in and got rid of their so called hard core dogs. A chap in London I knew we called him loads a money. He carried on with the Mayfield stuff he had fro M.D but I had no interest in it that stuff. Most of the people in the south east who I knew with the dog's were scum they were pond life they had no standards in life so how could they have standards in the dog's. I used to make treadmills and my family had a building in the countryside I had put a treadmill in this building and left the doors wide open. It wasn't much of a mill just a prototype before I made better ones. It was a great place to work your dog with nobody to bother you or interfere. Anyone was welcome to use it and work their dog's and loads of people did exactly that. Some days it was great everyone would get together work dogs talk dogs and have a good time and then one day one of the scumbags just taxed it for themselves :-O:-O they could use whenever they wanted to but no they just thieved it anyway :|
    When the law came in we run a lurcher and terrier show with all the proceeds to go towards fighting the dda but guess what sum scumbags stole the takings from the show on the day :((:(( fuckin arse holes all of them :))
    No I got a bit disheartened with the people but not the dogs. I don't even have a bulldog now just got gundogs . Times were hard for me back then the dda came in my building company just folded thanks to that cunt Margaret Thatcher deliberately creating a financial recession losing my home going through a divorce and loads of other shit but I did somehow hang on to my Skipper dog and my lurchers that were all Reid's blood. Even my lurchers had that spare sort of floating rib that most of the good Skipper dogs had and that white markings on the back of the neck :))
    Yes I have to agree with you Old Guy them reid's dog's were some of the best dog's we have had in this country .
    I can tell from your posts that you really know you dog's and respect them. I wish I had known you back in the 80s and 90s
     
  20. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    any peds for these old dogs to show?
     

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