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jagd terriers

Discussion in 'Patterdale Terriers' started by peppapig, Oct 5, 2010.

  1. eastend

    eastend Big Dog

    Im looking to get a terrier of some sort any good mixes ???
    :)
     
  2. eastend

    eastend Big Dog

     
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  4. eastend

    eastend Big Dog

    Oh i thought that was a small number doing it below ground that must take some doing!!
     
  5. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

    German Jagd Terrier was my first dog when I was kid. This is very popular breed where I live. My country is still very rural, so we have lot of forests wher you can really hunt with those little freeks. But few years ago, stupid m.f. from EU ban the hunting with terriers (and working exams on badgers or foxes, too) so in the future this great breed will become only for conformation shows.
    I like those little screemers, they are true game animals!!! I would like to see some patterdales too, nobody has them here.
     
  6. riffraff

    riffraff Pup

    what country you from vaga
     
  7. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

    From Serbia (wild, wild Balkan) ;)
     
  8. BA08/15

    BA08/15 Big Dog

    i never heard about the e.u. banning the hunt with terriers? and since when is serbia in the e.u.?
     
  9. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

    @BA08/15
    Sorry, my fault. Here we have the custom to blame EU for all the bad things ;). And its strict laws on animal rights. I had Jagd terrier many years ago (so I am no longer involved in these dogs), but I know that there is no longer working exams in artificial burrow. I assume that FCI banned it, correct me if I am wrong. But you can hunt foxes and badgers in nature, and no one here does not control or defend it for now.
    Yes, Serbia is not in the EU, but has to adjust its laws in all spheres with the laws in the EU if it wants to be accepted into the EU. That's what annoys me, that now "we have to be more Catholic than the Pope" and to constantly prove that we are not bad guys and the savages from the Balkans who only know to kill people in wars (I see you're from Germany, so you probably know how the German people were demonized after the Second World War and how many decades it took for you to unleash the relic of Hitler's Germany and that others start to look at you like normal people). So now we have to accept all the laws that EU impose us without objection. For example I am not allowed to kill a stray dog even though he will tomorrow bite my child on the street, for several years I will not be allowed to slaughter a pig to eat meat, etc..
    That's why I mentioned the EU. Sorry, I was wrong.
    Concluding with the discussion because it is far off topic. Regards
     
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  10. vagabond

    vagabond Pup

    So, my fault in that earlier post was because I write that hunting badgers and foxes with jagd terriers is not allowed - what I meant to say is that laws go in this direction. Ban of working exams on badgers and foxes in artificial burrow tells me this. At the end, it will be like apbt situation. Everything will be underground, for small group of enthusiastic people who risk go to prison because of dogs.
     
  11. Willy

    Willy Pup

    Despite words from the peanut gallery, Jagds are not generally sharp towards humans.
    But they are serious working dogs.
    Germans hunt in large groups, biting dogs would be shot on the spot, so too would dog fighters. I own several German bred and imported dogs.

    Patts are real nice, but Jagds are a little bigger, faster, longer legged, longer snouted, better noses, just as game, and more versatile ie blood trail deer, fetch ducks etc.

    This guy hunts Jagds, Patts and Dogos together.
    His Jagds catch hogs (Despite more peanut gallery talk) and these are large boars. I even have video of Jagds catching, getting tossed and coming back for more, just say the word and i will upload it.
    Photos of Hog Catching Jagds..enjoy
    California Catchers - Patterdale Terriers and Argentine Dogos - California
     
  12. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    dont think jagds are longer snouted or legs then spartacus haha or bigger then some wheeler dogs . Patts or black dogs come in all sizes and shapes . My dog is almost 10 kg with long muzzel and legs and his grand father spartacus is even longer then him . Some patts are like 30 pounds and bit more. Im no expert as i only had patt for just over a year and jagds for less . But i find jagds to be very hyper active and patts very calm and i like how jagds hunt in a pack. so intense, and in nose i dont think many jagds can compare to nose of my friend's patt , she is 7 and hunted with beagles for long she can track a fox like a champ and beat the beagle to it too sometimes she is a good all rounder. I like both breeds a lot
     
  13. snakewidomski

    snakewidomski Big Dog

    In Europe we have a lot of Patterdales who have about 30lbs, for badger and wild boar. After the ban in England they prefer the smaller type for fox. But in Germany, Belgium, Italy or France you can often see the bigger type.
    Here is my young male: http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=339294
    His father works in Italy, his mother in Germany.
    The Jagdterriers that I have seen are more agressive than game, and if they are not agressive they lacks gameness.
     
  14. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    he gonna look like nathan :) beautiful patterdale
     
  15. snakewidomski

    snakewidomski Big Dog

    Yes, he has the same look.
    I have bred him to Schwab's Vio, and the offspring have the same look, too.
    Here is a puppy of that breeding http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=354085
    14 days later I have bred him to Schwab's Ully. She is a 100% "Old Nuttall", a backbreed to Nuttall's Mickey. This offspring looks very different.
    ...Sorry, I have no photos on my PC.
     
  16. BA08/15

    BA08/15 Big Dog

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  17. CCDINO

    CCDINO Pup

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  18. snakewidomski

    snakewidomski Big Dog

    Thanx for posting the pics!
    Your frenchy mutt is a very active young female, so they can train each other.
    I hope they don`t want to fight in future.
    But your frenchy is a friendly one. And different breed, different age, different sex are often work well together.
     
  19. Willy

    Willy Pup

    Blackpoison
    In general, Jagds are longer legged, and longer snouted. The picture above proves this to be true.
    Jagds are not earth dogs nor bred for it.
    They are bred for the hunt and can cover longer distances and with speed.


    Jagds are bred to stricter standards of conformation, in addition to performance so youll see more continuity far as size goes.



    Not many patts go over 25, youre BSn now.

    I do agree that the strength of Patts is their calmness, termperment and fight.
    Jagds are not as calm.




    Jagds have a better nose, and can smell miles better than Patts.
    They are BRED for It.
    Just as gamebred Pits are bred for fighting and gameness. Its a breed quality, with 80 years of genetics behind it.
    Blood tracking is a Breed Requirement for Euro Jadgs. 20/40 hour blood tracks, half a mile long.
    Its possible that US bred Jagds may be not as sensitive as their Euro counterparts due to loose breeding regs here, actually no breeding regs here.

    But Jagds are NOT earth dogs, they are Hunt dogs, and can round out a pack or hunt alone.
    Especially hogs, fetch ducks, fight vermin, blood track deer. A Versatile dog.

    Pound for pound the Jagd are not as tough as Patts, imo. Nothing else is.
    But Jagds are more well rounded and better at what THEY do.
    On tough game, They are more cerebral in How they fight and sometimes show some strategy, whereas a Patt is more reckless and game, generally.
    Both are Tough as nails though.
     
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  20. Willy

    Willy Pup

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