jagd terriers

I don't want to argue with you (you being from Germany and all) but most folks I know pronounce it as Yok-terrier (like rhymes with rock). Is this incorrect or is it just the difference in dialect?

 

Here is a link to a German dictionary. Click on the little speaker next to the word Jagd and it will pronounce it for you.

http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/dings.cg...&optpro=0&query=jagd&iservice=&comment=&email=

BA08/15- Why is this different than how you say it?

 

Nonsense.
Im not talking about color, or ear set DQs for petes sake.

Im talking about altering the use of a breed physically to satisfy a whim, at the expense of everything else, including the dogs original founders intent!

Breeding oversize dogs, designed originally to go to ground, doesnt benefit the breed.
Or Making softer dogs that wont do what they were intended to do, the same...

There must be a WORKING Standard, that is followed by Working Breeders, with some standarized physical traits, but by no means, an overemphasis on them, but on Working ability for any breed to prosper and perpetuate.

 

@ Willy
Yes, the dogs from East-Germany are often better.

The Weimaraner and Deutsche Jagdterrier are not as hard as they were 10 years ago. I have spoken with many hunter and one mate who test them at a "Saugatter" (Saugatter = a yard with wild boars). Most German hunters want a dog who is very will to please and friendly. But if you breed mainly for that the offspring lacks gameness.
Of course there are still some breeder who breed the old type, but most go the other way.

About the standard, I think there was a misunderstanding of the term.

 

There is a Hardness Test for every German Jagd that is bred. Same one theyve been doing for decades.

I dont know if softer Jagdss are being bred or not, I dont believe it to be true from over the pond in Germany.
Perhaps in America where there is no standard for breeding...same old story.
The fighting and dog aggression is what keeps some away from an otherwise good terrier and they have their detractors due to it.

Weims used to have to undergo a Mansharfe Test..and were rated from 1-4.
These kinds of dogs are seen as liabilities for many people today, poachers arent the issue they once were.
Besides, Weims have been overshadowed by the Drahthaar and Kurzhaar as the preeminant versatile hunting dogs in Germany.

 

@ Willy
It's not easy for me to write about such a difficult theme in englisch. I often have to use a translating tool and don't know exactly if I use the right words.

There is a dilemma in the Deutsche Jagdterrier Club, because some of the authorities have gone a wrong way and don't admit freely that they did it.
They have problems with the animal rights campaingners and antis, also most of the hunters, they breed for, are not professionals or specialists. Most hunters use their dogs only on weekends and for every kind of work.
An other problem is that the authorities know each other over years. And one friend makes the hunting test for an other friend. So they give their dogs more points than they are worth.
I know about a man with a Deutsche Jagdterrier pack in my area. You can rent him for wild boar hunts. His dogs have the best Deutsche Jagdterrier papers and many hunting test points. He takes 100,-€ for a hunt.
But the hunting district owners hire a man from the Netherlands with his Patterdale pack for 350,-€.
There you can see whose dogs are more successful, that who have a standard and many hunting test points (given from a friend to a friend), or that who were breed only for work, without any club-, standard- or testpoint papers.

 

Jagds are 100% Terriers...we cannot compare whit the littles patterdales for various reasons, structures and dimensions, styles and type of works...Jacgd can hunt alltype of wild up the ground, not on all cases can go down the ground, i don't know very good the patterdales but i think that is a personal and differents choices...two works...two race..here a training video for Russian Jagd...let see...i don't like because i'm wild animals lover and i think that today ther's no lands how is needed to still hunt bears...but that dogs can make its work...

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv41O9_BHo8&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv41O9_BHo8&feature=related[/ame]

 

how about a jagd terrier x patterdale

 

Id say they could be good,they go back to similar stock 90 odd years ago.
Id try one ,in my experience a lot of crossbred terriers come better than either parent.

 

I live in Arkansas and looking for another Jag. I have a Jag/Jack cross that is working really good for me but would like to have another. I have 2 Patterdale pups almost 3 months old. Too young to work with the big dogs. Here's my Digger pup at 8 months with his first coon. Not sure how to post a pic. I'll try. Thanks.