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Looking for a show quality show dog

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by old time dogman, Mar 10, 2010.

  1. 12 gauge

    12 gauge CH Dog

    wont be hard to find as mostly everybody is into showing their staffords in the ring here in the US and nothing more, a real shame as their are other legal venues to have fun with them in my opinion.

    here's a link http://www.staffordmall.com/staffordlinks.htm
  2. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

  3. BKNLS

    BKNLS Big Dog

  4. nasher

    nasher Big Dog

    I would love to find a kennel club show in the uk that have there dogs conditioned as fighting fit as it would be one big step forward
  5. Yas

    Yas Big Dog

    This is Jayneze Pillow Talk

    This is Cragails Dancing Brave

    This is his sister Cragails Get A Grip

    And this is their litter sister Cragails Indian Summer

    This is an example of an American Ch. there`s a big difference
  6. Yas

    Yas Big Dog

    Sorry mistake, Cragails Get A Grip is his brother not sister.
  7. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    to be honest none strike me as being in particularly great shape, the american dog is very overdone but this is what happens when dogs are bred for a trot down a ring a distance of 20 feet or so.i am sure many american kennels breed a less beefed up dog than that, yankeestaff dogs i remember as being lighter built for definate.
  8. Yas

    Yas Big Dog

    Yankeestaff have a bad name for being very poor.

    The dog`s pictured are in very good shape.

    The problem with most "working" Staffords in the UK is their owners just like old time Pit Bull owners know very little about conditioning and think that to correctly condition a Stafford you run it 10 miles a day. The problem there is that not only is your dog not reaching his genetic potential and carrying his natural and optimal amount of muscle but he is training aerobically and so becoming slower and weaker.

    Anyway this thread aint about conditioning, I left a post as the OP wanted a show Stafford in the US.
  9. dannyboy

    dannyboy Big Dog

    If your after a good show stafford...thaen Yas would be good to talk to....by te way Yas, what are you doing here?
  10. Yas

    Yas Big Dog

    Alright mate, is that Dan1?

    I`m on here cos this seems to be the place to get good stuff eg. 2nd hand slat mills etc. plus i`ve just started writing my book on conditioning (probably won`t be done for about a year) so the more people that know me the better.
  11. dannyboy

    dannyboy Big Dog

    Be interested to have a look mate...good luck with it, knowing you im sure you will have written some good info, worth bearing in mind.
    Cheers Dan
  12. jack the lad

    jack the lad Big Dog

    There are a couple of people on the uk show scene that keep there dogs in good shape:)but still not top winning dogs but others just keep the food off a couple of days before a show just so the dog tucks up:(and the amount of times I've heard show people say I don't like them to show rib or that dog's showing to much rib :rolleyes:
  13. Yas

    Yas Big Dog

    Yeah mate you`re right but in the US (show Staffords) they call being fat having "substance". There are some here that use carpet mills etc. but I think those people are few and far between.
  14. gog123

    gog123 Top Dog

    yas what do you mean by writing a book on conditioning?

    Those staffords pictured above imo look like they getting close to being pugs? Such short muzzles, think working breeds should be bred based on the work. Best to best to stop the breeds all ending up like british bulldogs.

    I even think athletic dog show owners shouldnt breed. Far to many staffords and other dogs in rescues including pups which can be put to use at those sort of shows.
  15. Yas

    Yas Big Dog

    Alright mate, yeah i`m writing a book on dog conditioning, it`s gotta be the the most in depth book so far so it`s gonna take a while.

    I respect your opinion and do disagree with it in regards to the above dogs as they are bang on standard and most people would say the perfect blend of bull & terrier. However there are many show dogs that do resemble to type that you say and could never do the job they they were originally intended for.

    Also some very valid points in regards to breeding in the UK especially, rescues are being over-run with Staffords through no fault of their own.
  16. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    i totally agree, bulging eyes and short faces were what struck me first, i do not believe they are pure bred staffords, they are not what i remember from my childhood, i prefer dogs to look like warriors not french bulldogs/pugs.they are still far far too heavy for me. yas if they are what you consider conditioned then i would question your ability to write a book on the subject, that is not meant as nasty it is just how i would see it.have you conditioned any dogs we may have heard of ? not a bad point made by gog about show dog breeders not breeding, empty the breed rescues first.now this has gone off topic i would hope OTD has gained enough links so he can find what he requires.
  17. matty

    matty Big Dog

    Even though i appreciate the dogs pictured look in good condition, better than a lot of dogs around, regardless of type, they look fit and healthy but dont look fighting fit in lean very hard condition, having said that you cannot judge by photos. But hats off to the owners and conditioners of the dogs for at least making them look fit and healthy, it will be interesting to see what is written in your book. I think if you look carefully past the crap and bullshit there are some very good dog persons on this board that know alot about conditioning a dog to its potential. Look forward to hearing more from you as i dont visit bbo much anymore.
  18. peppapig

    peppapig Banned

    conditioning book by a man who has show type staffords....ermmmmm.......will this book be all your own methods??tried and tested by you on those show staffords?? cos feck me.....theres healthy looking.....and theres conditioned healthy!!....and id be surprised if those staffords could ever run flat out for 20mins.....without going blue in the tounge and choking....but....its gave me a good laugh today...thanks...;)
  19. Lipcurl

    Lipcurl Big Dog

    Any pics YAS of your dogs so we can see where the inspiration of this book has come from ?

  20. shadowwolf

    shadowwolf Big Dog

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