My Voyage into Raw Feeding

what you say makes sense but also in various studies it showed the need to mix it up , I found it difficult to manage giving for example a whole duck or fish and making sure they got the right balance
so I also grind it and trhow in a bone every other week with a lot of meat and make sure the day after the get a oily and fatty mix

 

Large greyhound kennels often buy huge volumes of raw food and are usually open to selling some. I get great deals at a kennels I go to. Usually my feed costs €.25 a lb that would typically include. Chicken mince. chicken backs. beef chunks. Sprat. Lamb meat. If you can put a bit of time into searching out deals you can cut feed bill for the dogs by a lot.

 

Billinghurst also emphasises the importance of getting the balance over time & not in "every" meal. His thoughts are trying to get the feeding as close to a kill as possible,where the animal eats different parts of the kill at different times. You more educated than me on feeding,but I would be interested if you maybe changed some of your ideas if you read his books. Am not saying he is correct & you wrong,as I know you educated on feeding,but I think you would find them interesting & it may add something to your feed.
Take care............

 

Billinghurst says their is no complete and balanced diet in animals or humans.....he go's on to say any dog biscuit u by that's "complete and balanced" is just basically legal theft....

 

That was sarcasm.

 

I have read the books , but made my own adjustment based on the fact nowhere in Billinghurst books is there any reference to the competitive (weightpulling) dog and what he needs
second in all the studies I read the following order hasnt changed as energy source first 2 mins sugars , than 8 to 10 carbs after that fats
I am not an educated man on dogfood , hell when I started out we all fed those high carbs ( we thought the higher the better , hell fat bills first video even fed corn flakes) , beetpulp feed and we all suffered trough the messed up kidneys for years

its all trial and error , like I learned that fatty chicken builds up a lot of inner fat and makes em blow hot
like there is a thing called fat loading where only in the last weeks u add reall fatty food and u circumvent that issue
still learning till this day , its what makes keeping these dogs fun right
I feed between 15 and twenty twice a day the same from the day they are born , I get really high bloodcell readings so I guess I wont change the formula much

 

Lol.some one needs to right a book about feeding raw food to a performance dog....it could be a worthy project for someone.... Its much needed!...

 

Appreciate the reply & wonder if i dig a wee bit deeper then al get warts & all on your complete feeding guide hehe !!
I hear what you say on Billinghurst & of course you correct. He is a good start & answers a lot of questions,but as you say........it needs adjustments for working dogs.
Take care....

 

FAT BILL what a character knew Bill well he was always experimenting on any thing with the dogs that hundred dollar keep he never used himself, I remember when down at his place he said he was going to try to condition a dog with just carbo plex and he also had a dog with some kind of skin condition that was pretty bad and was going to treat it with high doses of Ivermectin , went back down his way 6 to 7 weeks later and both dogs looked great. Bill said the dog on just carbo plex was working good but always seemed to be in discomfort if I remember right, every time I seen Bill it was always a fun time.

 

Lol.

 

For u Finito,from the 3rd Billinghurst book:Whole raw bones have benefits beyond nutrition.They play a major role in maintaining the health of your pets immune system and also its mouth.teeth and gums.They also provide unique psychological and physical benefits,not available from any other source.

 

Do you add quite a bit?or just a small amount?

 

Bones also play the role of fiber in that they help keep the digestive tract moving.

 

Your right.Bones stop anal glands from filling up in cats and dogs..of topic but I just spoke to a pet owner who paid quite a lot of money to her vet to pop her dogs anal glands.when she told me I said give your dog a bone.and explains to her what we've just been talking about.she said,oh god no!my vets told me bones are bad for dogs!.....w.t.f?!!.I tried to tell her her vet was highly wrong,but she wouldn't have it.seems some people don't want help or advise lol.....

 

small amounts

 

Thanks.towards the end of a keep?or from the start?and with all dogs?or just some?......

 

As you all know I am here to learn, and know nothing about dog nutrition, but I do know a thing or two about human diet and conditioning. A ketogenic or high fat low, carb diet is best for endurance athletes. This diet trains the body to burn fat for energy instead of glucose (carbs). When the human body is "keto" adapted it has access to 40,000 kcal instead of 2,000 kcal on the traditional glucose burning diet.

 

Very interesting.I did not no that....so if this is so in humans,who have been adapted to eat grain(carbs) well more then dog's have.then it must surely apply to dogs to?.who have not been adapted to eat grain/carbs(AS THE BULK OF THERE DIET)as much as humans have........

 

@slim12 what made u change the fat from as high as 50 to some in the 20 percent
when u talk percentage do u mean fatty meat or just pure fat
I do end in the 50% at end of a training but in the low ten during first weeks