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Old game Bred Bull terriers

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by Box Bulldog, Aug 13, 2016.

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  1. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    He looks like a american pocket bully but moves extremely well. If people can produce short stocky dogs that can move like that my hats of to them. Do they have weight contracts in china because they said he is a 68lb dog but there was no way the loser in the video was much over 50.
     
  2. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    68lbs in the video must be chain weight. Open to mach from 62.5-64.5lbs
     
  3. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    Yeah that'd be his chain weight. Smart dog. Very chill outside the box and good with other dogs. His loss was due to him running low on wind. I imagine the perfect EBT would have a style similar to cooper.
     
  4. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Those were big dogs without a doubt but I'm guessing they still will be of low quality even though they may be game.
     
  5. Lrs

    Lrs Big Dog

    But is game the most important thing?
     
  6. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    To some maybe.....
     
  7. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    Just because they're in China. There is a fast lane there too. And El titere's is in China as well. It ain't street rolls.
     
  8. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    No just because they are likely poor dogmen.....
     
  9. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    I wouldn't say other sbt's did not compare, but it would also depend on what you would call a good apbt? Josh imo has the best record of any sbt v apbt's. He met 4 apbt's winning 2 & the 2 he lost he showed game, at least 2 were previous winners. Gnasher won over a 1x winning apbt gyp before losing to Rocky.
    I don't think it's really fair to compare any sbt with a good apbt. As it's extremely rare they'll ever meet a good'un that has a known reputation and is a previous winner.
     
  10. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    Bull terriers have poor bite ,, and they are not game,,, they'd be nothing like cooper...
     
  11. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

  12. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    What right do you have to say that? Dog is conditioned well and lives well. But then you are a racist. Pfft.
    Short and squat mostly.
    you are the only dogman I know of whose seen some go to have said they do. Probably just an atypical show specimen who'd go. Not from one of the few established lines. No offense, As a good one is rarer than a unicorn lol. But the few I have seen could all crunch. In fact one out classed a dog (apbt) who killed a 2xw. Of course, I doubt there will be many more like him for years. That was in Europe. I have never seen nor heard of an EBT with a weak jaw. I hear more about their stupidity and then being curs. Then again, at least in my opinion, the U.K. Never had the best EBT for any purpose except perhaps show.
     
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  13. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

     
  14. DogMan85

    DogMan85 Banned

    Only fights you have seen is on the Web.....
     
  15. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    Iv never seen a bull terrier ,,that had a average bite ,,they are real poor , compared to old type SBTs,,and Pit bull terriers
     
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  16. Robertosilva

    Robertosilva CH Dog

  17. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    Nice dogs good song brings back a lot of memories of my younger days.
     
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  18. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    If your talking about that Cooper dog then no he's not well conditioned. Those are clips of his matches in that video. It's fairly obvious if you know, he's way to fat to be called well conditioned and so are his opponents.

    What's an established line of bull terriers? I assume you mean working lines. You've mentioned a few so called working lines. None of which are bred for or from what is supposed to be the breeds function. So how are they working lines?
    Strong jaw doesn't equal hard bite. What let's the bull terriers mouth down is their inflexible bodies or lack of athleticism. To appear hard biter a dog has to be able to not only get his hold, but he has to work his hold out, most of this work is done of a dog's rear end. Since your the only one who has seen these bone crunching bull terriers why not post the videos of these dogs? As I've yet to see one bull terrier I'd class with a decent mouth.
     
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  19. italianpit

    italianpit Big Dog

    Chinese dogman are pure garbage! In Every video They made always some fault and many time they come in The pit with dogs who don't want work. Wrost people
     
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  20. bluedoglover

    bluedoglover Top Dog

    He was not, their other dogs were. Look up SPF kennels, should have one of their dogs in condition. Cooper, I'm told, was a difficult animal to condition.
    Good bite but low wind. Very athletic for his build though. Still open I think.
    As to the working lines, the original purpose was show, no one can deny that. So I wouldn't say there is any original job. There's the iron kipper line ( badger and hog dogs bred for work well over 15 years. Also used for weight pull.) the Excalibur dog (used to be pit dogs but not anymore, mostly protection work now.) and the ingles line (hunting. I will say nothing else out of respect for privacy). If they work and are line bred it is a working line.
    I'm far from the only one, many have noted that ebt have a good bite. Even if not pit dogmen, hunters of hogs and badgers have said the same. and I do not have footage of either dogs I know had excellent mouth. I may have had some for you in winter but unfortunately animal services has a keen nose. The other person in turkey did not film the ebt to my knowledge, the dog was too large to find a good match so he was used for rolls and the odd OFC but it told he was a good dog comparable with some apbt. But he never produced and was never conditioned.
     
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