Old,Rare,Hard to get,Or just plain extinct blood

"He didn't have a fence around his yard per say.He had hog pannels around his dog yard though."

"Oh wow a test from the master.Let me see I was only at the ferg's place about a million times but i will try to remember."

Well I can see you must have missed the fact they were clearly split wood logs he would use to heat his house. The fence was about 6 feet high and as he used some up he would replace them. Since you were there a million times you should have been able to tell they weren't hog panels...
In his back yard where the dogs were, kept inside this split log fence, he kept off the ground, Cajun Style whelping pens.

"His mill was a belt mill in the room off the kitchen,that lead to the back door."

The room off the kitchen was a food panty and sometimes he would let females whelp pups there. When Billy Jack was a pup he had a couple females from time to time have pups there. The room wasn't big enough to work a dog.
But you were close. The mill was kept right outside that room IN THE KITCHEN.
Yes, it was a belt but I was hoping, if you saw it, you indulge about it a little more. It was much more then just a belt mill.
It was like a piece of furniture. The frame was wood and stained and varnished. It was wide and the belt was like a rubber. Though this mill turned with the greatest of ease. You could stand a pup on it and the mill would let it roll right down it because it was so free turning. It was based after the old Walter's mills. Kind of like the late Jim Culbertson use to make, but way, way better.

"The PA dog man you are referring to was John Pachoccie(?spelling)and I would never refer to him as a dog man as he got sick at the site of blood.Do you want to know if his step daughter was a good piece of ass I know that to.
So you knew Blair Hetrick?Cause thats who started Red in the dogs.Now are YOU serious,you never lost?lol Ya right."

Yes, I knew Blair for years and it was Blair who Fergie got the dogs from. He might have got dogs from John but Fergie got Blair's dogs. Everyone knew that. Fergie lived down the street from Red and since Fergie was in dogs before Red this must have been how Red came to know him.
BTW you got that right...0!
Just like Red only lost once. lol

"About hearing that story years later bullshit pal I was there were you?And it was an hour not 45 min YOUR WRONG.I'll bet the farm on that."

LOL But you still didn't answer the question. Since it wasn't OTC why didn't he do it the way he wanted to in the first place?
Why didn't he go double or nothing at the time instead of picking up? That way there wouldn't have been the lost and they could have known for sure right then?
Why dis a Gr. Ch.? Country won 5. That means 5x people thought they could get by him and 5x times they didn't!

"And please Charlie might not have made it you have got to be kidding,and I thought you were a dogman."

Careful on the dising...there is no doubt is there?

"Thats why he won another AFTER that one at 6 1/2yrs.And by the way just to show what a bulldog GrChCharlie was he beat Ch toro when he had heartworm!"

The late Pit Bull Rick had already lost with Toro. I think that was a safe bet. Rick also lost with Ch. Z Boy.
BTW, the standard for reference to a Gr. Ch. by SDJ is, a dog can not have a lost. Now I can see the reference if the dog won 5 before the lost but this wasn't the case with Ch. Charlie.

"I have paid my dues pal I dont need to kiss no ass,knowing a few of the great dogmen means nothing but being respected by them means alot.I can go to just about any oldtimers place on the east coast and be welcome.Now did I pass your test."

Then I'm sure we have crossed paths over the years.
Since you've been around so long and paid your dues then you remember the show I spoke of and was there. RIGHT? You SHOULD because of the spot......!
If you were there and hang out with every one including Frank, then you knew Frank was the right of me and Captain Ben was to the left of me.
Remember the debate about Gr. Ch. Luther and who it was with?
I remember the year, do you? I mean you knowing Red, Fergie and Frank and all for so long.

 

Oh I agree on the names.
But please remember, these are the handles they reported under in SDJ.
None of these are their real names.
So far even the ones that have died, their last names hasn't been posted.

 

"Virgil dogs;279658]I didnt mean any dis respect to Frank I knew him for years so dont get your panties in a bunch."

Are you trying to be cute with the a sexist remark because men don't wear panties or are you wanting to find out who sqwats to pee?
Anyway, don't worry about it. I free ball it anyway. ROTFL!

"I never did see him sober so what if he was alive he would say the same thing about me.I liked the shit out of him and he ALWAYS brought a game dog."

Well, Vir you must have not known Frank that long or would have seen him sober many times like I have.
I remember when he got started with his well known relation and knew his old partner in B&B Kennels as he would advertise in SDJ.

 

Tell me does someone follow you around to greese your head so it can fit through doors?I know your ego has to turn sideways.You are soooo full of yourself you make me laugh.Are you realy that inscure that anyone who knows these old timers scares you?Pal your a big fish in a small pond relax Im just hear to help out the youngins.I think your just a blowhard,the doggame is full of them.Ya know the funnt part is no one around here remembers you,if your the Mike I remember Fergie scewed the shit out of you.Thats ok though he made his living that way.You remind me of Ozzie that dog rubbin piece of shit,after 15 mins around that guy and you wanted to punch his lights out,But that was what Brian was for.Most of your last post was wrong but I dont want to banty wits with a know it all.Tattoo had a rock for a head just like you,a nice guy but argue with a rock and you would get farther.Lets just say I got all these names form a book and just got my first dog last week,he's out of grch dead game ace gottie.Keep peddlin them pups pal.

 

Virgil dogs;279735]Tell me does someone follow you around to greese your head so it can fit through doors?I know your ego has to turn sideways.You are soooo full of yourself you make me laugh."

Are your knees sore from idol worship?
I've been laughing since you posted who the greatest was and how you knew everyone so well. LOL

"Are you realy that inscure that anyone who knows these old timers scares you?"

Na, just tried of BS artist who try to claim they know certain people so well when they don't! )

"Pal your a big fish in a small pond relax Im just hear to help out the youngins."

In every pond there are bottom feeders known as suckers.
Tread lightly....

"I think your just a blowhard,the doggame is full of them."

Think so? Scared man can't gamble and jealous man can't work.
Find out for sure..

"Ya know the funnt part is no one around here remembers you,if your the Mike I remember Fergie scewed the shit out of you."

Well I'm not the Mike you remember because Fergie and I never deal dogs together nor would he bring one. As for remembering, man you show how green you are. Ask Fergie who I am.. Red knows.
But Frank's wife is still alive and the only time she saw a show, she remembers who n da [].
At the first Cajun Reunion better dogmen then you or Red was there. Funny got nothing but love and respect.
I'm not surprise how you respond, that is the style around that area...

"Thats ok though he made his living that way.You remind me of Ozzie that dog rubbin piece of shit,after 15 mins around that guy and you wanted to punch his lights out,But that was what Brian was for."

Now you don't need to be that insulting lol.
But I can't argue about what you said about OS. LOL

"Most of your last post was wrong but I dont want to banty wits with a know it all.Tattoo had a rock for a head just like you,a nice guy but argue with a rock and you would get farther."

No you don't want to DEBATE points with someone DOES know!
Tattoo. LOL D.P. was fun when I was around him. But he wasn't there that night with the Captain.
BTW all was correct.............!

"Lets just say I got all these names form a book and just got my first dog last week,he's out of grch dead game ace gottie.Keep peddlin them pups pal."

At least someone wants what I feed and breed and you?

 

I asked to keep discussion on topic.

I am temporarily locking this up until further notice.