painter type?

Hahaha...yeah mate.burger meat you will end up lol.
i told ya further back bout them two eating a man.

Them Corsos are keen on eating a man to.
the two breeds(Presa and Corso)are reaguly crossed togerher over here.with pups being sold from the mix as "pure Pressa"...or "pure Corso"

And also selling for up to a grand!lmao,who the fuck would pay a grand for such a dangerous mutt..i see two most other days.skinny scard owners getting draggeged down the road.ask em how much they paid and they stick there skinny chest out with pride and shout "A Grand mate"!

Fucking laughable mate aint it hey?

 

Spoke with my mentor about Presas. Said he once had a client who had him train his Presas in protection. Some of the dogs were 150+ pounds, real heavy pull biters and highly defensive. …also ridiculously dog aggressive to the point of uncontrollability due to the size of these dogs. Met another old school trainer in a session not too long ago from Philly who had a series of nasty scars on his leg and arm. Claimed from a Corso. Man, not much difference than going into the lion cage at the zoo with these dogs.

 

Those Presas are eat your a## up.

 

Yeah they are formidible things i have to say..
the one i seen was like that GK..man or beast it was keen on.
Corsos dont seem AS intense..lol.AS.
but they dark and they got that evilness about them.they to have most likely got some pit bull blood in there make up.i no there fanciers claim a anctent decent.but they dont half look and act like a Pit x Neo.
bit weird they just showed up after a hundred years if you ask me.
i think italian fanciers to recreate the Corso,crossed Neos with the pitbulls what had just came back to Europe.
Why they would do this i just dont no.
maybe to produce a lighter more tighter skinned athletic Neo perhaps?

 

i see the new rage for the big dogs is in the BullyKutta.
some exotic beasts really atract attention..why?ill never no....

But all these dogs are great maneaters.its just that i think people would do better with a GS or Mal..they are far more responsive to there handler.they can go from 0-100 then back to 0 again.of a simple comand.
show me a big mastiff type that can do this?
and dont say Turner and Hooch.lol.as much as i like the mutt.
But thats the only one.and it dose come of a mans throat with a command.
but i dread to think how hard that was to pull of..i always wonder did they go through a few actors first before they got it right?
LOL.


I laugh at oppian.a second century scroller.who claimed quite wrongly lol,that the brindle colour of Mastiffs was because people used to chain bitch Mastiffs up in the forset so they might be served by a tiger.
hence the brindle.
lmao.double lol.

I can see why the man thought it though.
as they may be wicked dogs now..but i bet they were even more so in Oppians time.

 

I may not have had time to reply but I just wanted you all to know your posts were appreciated thank you!!!

 

Yeah its been a great thread Lisa.
some real good veiws on the history of the AmBull,and every other Mastiff breed lol..
infact i wished i had more time to right on this paticulare thread.as im more then a little loony on doggy history lol.

 

The presa canario is a Spanish breed,not Italian.

 

Correct... Cane Corso are Italian, Presas are Spanish from Spanish islands

 

Hey Soze t.k. I took a look at some of my old books (1980s-90s) on fighting and guardian breeds, to include one by Semencic (sp?). Even some old APBT and AB journals I kept. Nothing in there about Corsos, Presas. I'm thinking these are actually modern dogs, bandogs (maybe Neo crosses) recreated in the image of old world guardian breeds of Spain/Canary Isles, Italy, etc.. What do you think?

 

Indeed. I’ve dialed my dogs back from the protection training as they were becoming too keen on strangers for everyday practicality. And these are shepherds which are primarily prey and hunt driven, and normally social. I don’t knock the next guy for what he thinks he needs for his personal security K9, just as I wouldn’t knock his caliber of choice, magazine capacity or even rate of fire - but some of these massive defensive breeds really lack versatility.

 

Soze
Same here lol, I’ll get on tomorrow & catch up!

 

Slim
Re your comment the only dog that should bite a person is the one trained to do so.
This is a good topic as well! There are so many variables in that statement. I agree in that this is a very complicated & in-depth conversation I do not believe that this is something that people with no actual breed specific education & experience should practice this being especially the case with the Mastiff breeds. Very different disposition, temperament & defence as well as stress level I’d say from my experience which isn’t that great but I was around some serious PP dogs. Never owned one however & probably won’t. I personally don’t think one should own those types of dogs with no experience things can go south fast with untrained dogs & owners. Signals lost or misread, very dangerous. That brings me to another point of when I had my little gamedogs & had him while out with a friend another dog passes by & he starts yipping, squealing & wagging his tail like crazy. To which she says aw he wants to play, she was serious lol but just shows how something can be misread so easily & extremely fast, also how the situation could have been very bad in inexperienced hands

 

GK
I’ve heard of the Semencic book lol

 

Soze
Reminds me of the Ukrainian presa doing the face bites! Talk about cringe worthy lol. Lmao never heard the brindle “theory”

 

Soze
I think I mentioned earlier that my sister in law had a presa, that dog was a trip. Definitely a liability wasn’t fond of him. The Corso’s do seem to have less intensity. Intensity the constant on drives me a little batty maybe it’s age setting in lol. I do like the on/off with my AB’s it varies by line though

 

GK
what old apbt & AB magazines do you have, the national bulldogger. That was put together by Casey Courtier he had the Painter/Johnson outcrosses with his Watchdog line AB’s

 

GK
I’m not really sure the point in a dog with that primitive type of disposition, temperament & defence? It’s one thing to breed on that if for whatever reason you need it for yourself & culled accordingly. But I see too often dogs like this getting out to the General population