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Patterdales?

Discussion in 'Patterdale Terriers' started by CCDINO, Nov 29, 2010.

  1. snakewidomski

    snakewidomski Big Dog

    I think the "Old Nuttall Stuff" is not so hyper and more dog friendly than the generation after Nuttall's Miner and the Gould x Nuttall or the pure Gould stuff. But I have seen only a few dogs here in Europe, and I don't no if that is realy typical.
    My favorite is my pure "Old Nuttall" bitch, who is a backbreed to Nuttall's Mickey. She is a little ugly, looks always too fat, has cowhooked legs and if she is slow running she looks from behind like a piglet. But she is a brave, solid, robust, healthy, strong working machine, friendly to humans and dogs. I hope her offspring is going to be similar.
     
  2. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    there's many good patterdales here in the states. I've owned several and I'm feeding about 5 now.
    I just wanted to warn the man not to buy from peddlers and don't believe the hype on their websites.
    I know several people with good dogs that don't advertise or sell pups.
    one would be much better off with a pup from working parents than buying some overpriced inbred piece of sh!t from a peddler with a fancy site.
     
  3. chef_kergin

    chef_kergin Big Dog

    join barnburners forum.

    i've met three guys, two from OH and one from PA via that site, and all three have a yard full of working ground dogs. really fun to watch work.

    one guy was nice enough to take me out along with his son to hunt. one time was clearing a barn of raccoons. funniest shit ever is watching him THROW one of his patts up into the hayloft and watch him clear house. that one dog dispatched seven coons in under an hour.

    scary mouth on those dogs.
     
  4. i have level headed gamey workin patterdales who are calm cuddlebugs in the house but hunt hard all day long out in the elements.they don't look for a fight but will not back down from a fight either. 3 pups left 10 weeks old
     
  5. rathernotsay

    rathernotsay Big Dog

    I think before someone decides to get a patterdale, they should figure out if they are in shape enough to dig a dog out of a hole anywhere from three feet to who knows how deep, Year round, from freezing cold frost filled earths that is like trying to bust through concrete, to having to dig in 90 degree temps. Cause if you cant do that then you are letting your partner down. A patterdale worth its salt is gonna get into the ground and you better be ready to get it out. It is not coming out of the earth until you get it out. And the stories about the breed being hyper crazy etc, well that comes when you dont get that terrier that has been hard wired to hunt doesn't get its chance to fulfill its DNA. Want a calm patterdale? work it and magically the edge comes off. my two cents.
     


  6. I would agree with this statement. know what you are getting yourself and your dog into at all times
     
  7. rathernotsay

    rathernotsay Big Dog

    olympus did you sell all those puppies? did you cull any or were you able to finding working homes for all of them
     
  8. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    I have had a couple good references to the deadgame patterdales website. I have emailed Mr. Fulford (forgive me if names are not appropriate for patterdale owners as they are in bulldogs), and am anxiously awaiting for him to let me know when they have pups available. My question is what equipment, other than a shoevel is necessary to hunt with these dogs? I've heard about the intensity of these dogs and am sure I won't underestimate them, as I had bulldogs up until a few months ago. Anyone with advice for a true greenhorn to these dogs is greatly appreciated.
     
  9. snakewidomski

    snakewidomski Big Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    A locator could be useful, ...and an iron bar if you have big stones and rocks below.
    You can find good advices at the deadgame messageboard.
     
  10. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    thank you I didn't notice the message board. I'll check it out.
     
  11. MinorThreat

    MinorThreat CH Dog

    if you get one from deadgame, you wont need much equipments, I dont know how "Patterdales" that big could go below earth. I'd use them to hunt elephants
     
  12. MinorThreat

    MinorThreat CH Dog

    edit...I thought you were inquiring about JJ "Patterdales" and the reference to hunting down elephants
     
  13. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    they had pics of the dogs hunting badger they doidn't look very big to me.
     
  14. spliff

    spliff Big Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    i didnt see a dog on that site over 20lbs....had some nice looking dogs!
     
  15. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    best bet find some locales & do what they do? keep us updated on your dogs though. same equipment could probably be used on any breed. you could probably get away with having a jenny mill.
     
  16. benthere

    benthere CH Dog Staff Member

    prpitdawg,
    I like todd from deadgame he knows a lot about terriers, but I would not get a dog from him. There are a lot of people breeding Booth dogs in this country for pedigree alone. I have met and spent time with Mr. Booth and his breeding philosophies do not agree with most of the people who are breeding dogs down off his stock in this country. The Barnburner guys have the best of his stuff in this country.
    Although a lot of people might beg to differ, I would say for your money, if you got a young dog or pup from Gary Hammonds you would be off to a good start. His dogs are super intelligent and have excellent hunt drive. Right now I arguably have one of the best bred patterdales in the country off two imported dogs and she isn't worth a pinch of coon shit compared to some of the dogs I have down off Gary's stock.
    Size is important depending on what you want to hunt with your dog. If you want them to go to ground then they need to be below 15lbs or so. If you intend to hunt above ground, say coon for instance than dogs on average about 20lbs are good.
     
  17. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    no one in my area has patterdales that I know of. Any equipment I had for conditioning dogs went bye bye when the shit hit the fan. Soon as I figure out where to start I will definitely be updating with a ton of pics. ILm actually really excited to get started.
     
  18. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    thanks for the advice. I will definitely give Mr. Hammonds a ring. Funny how the world works, many years ago I had a bulldog off his stuff. Turned out that line of bulldogs wasn't for me, maybe his line of patterdales will be. The worst part of starting something new is figuring out where to start.
     
  19. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    i would focus on getting permission to hunt on farms, or joining a group of hunters.dont worry bout equipment. And get a four wheel drive.
     
  20. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    Re: Question for those who have been in my shoes

    i have some buddies that coonhunt but they use coondogs don't know how well a patterdale would work with them.
     

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