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Question From. Newbie????

Discussion in 'Training & Behavior' started by F-250, Jul 15, 2013.

  1. F-250

    F-250 Pup

    First, I would like to say greetings to all, and I hope to Learn much from all of you.

    My question to those of you who would like to share some of your knowledge is, how do I develop gameness type drive in my dog?
     
    F-250, Jul 15, 2013
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  2. Nina's Dad

    Nina's Dad Big Dog

    Welcome. You should know gameness and drive are not one in the same for starters. Make use of the search function as your question has been asked and answered many times before. Happy hunting
     
    Nina's Dad, Jul 15, 2013
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  3. Damion

    Damion Pup

    gameness and drive are two differant things drive is like a dogs eagerness to do a task gameness is a williness to die rather then fail it s task ,u can work on drive a lil but pretty much theyre born with it or not ,that s the best way i know how to put it .im sure other here can explain it better
     
    Damion, Jul 15, 2013
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  4. F-250

    F-250 Pup

    Didn't know it had been discussed before. Will do some research.
     
    F-250, Jul 15, 2013
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  5. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Two different topics all together. Prey drive/ball drive is pretty much trying to make something that is moving stop moving. The degrees can be from none at all to absolutely psychotic. Gameness comes in degrees as well. Some none at all and some will die trying. There is no relation between these two topics. A dog could be dead game but the laziest lay around dog in the world. And the opposite is true as well. A dog could be a ball driven maniac but check up the first time things do not go his way. There is no relation between the two. Lots of topics here worth the read. Type in some subject matter and most everything bulldog will pop up. And like everything else in the dogs and in the world you will have to wade thru the bullshit to get tot he useful information. Welcome and best of luck. S
     
    slim12, Jul 20, 2013
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  6. F-250

    F-250 Pup

    Hey Slim, thanks for the reply. Look, based on your reply I ask you, is there a way to develop gameness in a dog? I am talking about developing nerves of steel in my dog. Can this be done? Is it possible? I have a Victorian Bulldog.

    Thanks.
     
    F-250, Jul 20, 2013
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  7. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Your dog will never be game. Love it, enjoy it and keep it out of trouble. Bully's arent working dogs, they're the polar opposite of a gamedog. As far as the building up nerves as you put it, socolize the dog to as many situations as you can. The more the dogs put in various situations the more comfortable they will be typically. Building drive is as easy as finding what the dog likes such as flirt pole, spring pole, fetch, frizbee or what ever you can find that excites the dog and encourage him/her... These 3 traits are usually in the dog or not in the dog to begin with but being that you have a bully, game it will never be. Nerves and low drive is probally more the breed of dog than it is in you working with him/her to build up something the breed isnt know for. Looks like you did no real research before getting one and got swindled....
     
    AGK, Jul 20, 2013
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  8. Torresbeag

    Torresbeag Big Dog


    I read a terrier book one time, where a well known breeder of Patterdales was joking with some newbies.....told them to get a poker, stick it in the fire till it was red hot at one end, then shake it in front of the terrier shouting " aargh, aargh". The terrier that held on the longest was the one to buy.....
     
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    Torresbeag, Jul 20, 2013
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  9. F-250

    F-250 Pup

    Thanks for your reply.
     
    F-250, Jul 20, 2013
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  10. F-250

    F-250 Pup

    I want to thank all of you who replied. That said, based on your comments, I think I may have asked my question incorrectly.

    While I don't have access to wild game that I can hunt, and have my dog bait. I was hoping there was something I could do (Minus a Wild Boar) to develop the same kind of tenacity.
     
    F-250, Jul 20, 2013
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  11. F-250

    F-250 Pup

    LOL......Wow, do I come off that green?
     
    F-250, Jul 20, 2013
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  12. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    little bit............ ;)
     
    AGK, Jul 20, 2013
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  13. F-250

    F-250 Pup


    Alright, I'll take that. LOL
     
    F-250, Jul 20, 2013
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  14. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    You will not be able to develop gameness. It is a sought after trait that no one can dictate or explain. (If I give something as simple as a definition there will be ten people all over the post with a different definition and this post will be multiple pages long in a minute). What you can do is develop a confident dog by teaching it to win very early. Much the same the working dogs are developed. The Shepahrds, Malinois and Rottweilers are no more game than you and I, but over time thru training they can develop the desire to stay on taks in some pretty tough situations. The varying factor there is few men can take what those dogs are offering before the question of gameness comes into play. First you must start with prey driven games. Mostly with a ball. Make that ball his best friend and every thing he does positively he is rewarded and over rewarded with excitement and enthusiasm. In time he will become confident and his trust in you will be evident in how he responds to you. I like Leerburg.com ... It is a working dog website that will answer all your questions concerning prey, and nerves and development of a well rounded confident young dog.
    As far as a Victorian Bulldog, I have no idea what that is, so I could not answer in regards to a Victorian. I answered in regards to a bulldog. S



     
    slim12, Jul 21, 2013
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  15. F-250

    F-250 Pup

    Thanks Slim.
     
    F-250, Jul 21, 2013
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