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Rf1 canine supplement directions?

Discussion in 'Health & Nutrition' started by Banditdogs, Aug 10, 2018.

  1. Does anyone have the recomended feed dosage for RF1? The bag that I ordered was mislabeled and I don't have an old bag to look at.
     
  2. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    1 scoop for maintenance, 2 scoops for keep. Should be given within half an hour after workout with feed. Make sure you cool the dog down. You will start to see recovery time drop pretty quickly.
     
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    Thanks for replying but I had them just send a picture of the label. FYI.. it's not just 1 scoop or two scoops for all dogs, it's actually different portions depending on how much the dog weighs.
     
  4. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    Read the label and buy those ingredients separately. Use a chicken broth to mix it in......fat content goes up some, moisture goes up some, and it will be way cheaper.

    S
     
  5. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    I haven’t used it, but based on the ingredients stuff appears to be on a level with high end, high protein/fat no grain kibble, like Orijen tundra formula for example - except even more pricey per pound. Last time I looked at RF-1 online, it was from the Tom Garner enterprise I believe. The product seems more directed now toward bully fanciers. Just observations, no criticism of this product or the company which offers it. IMO raw meat plus raw unpasteurized goat’s milk would be just at least as nutritious, processed faster, and less costly.
     
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  6. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Dosage in my experience depends on the individual dog, even if similar in size. Less is better than what’s suggested when introducing a new product to a dog’s system. I don’t feed anything for at least a 1/2 hour after a workout, after a dog is cooled and settled. Less stress on the digestive system.
     
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  7. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    This is true. A well balanced feed program will eliminate the need for most supplementation.

    Supplementation should be reserved for a dog under a heavy, heavy work load. A fit dog with a well balanced diet can perform extraordinarily without anything extra.

    If there is a medical need for a supplement then by all means the dog should get that as needed.

    S
     
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  8. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    I was just rattling off the top my head to get him started, i never use recommended dosage on anything really and ive always thought its a good idea to come in low with new substances no matter what they are, it's dependent on each dog and weight is just a good starting point. I go by performance and what i see before, during and after work.
     
  9. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    Just make sure you don't keep feeding this after you're done with whatever you are doing. It can be bad on their Kidneys.
     
  10. So this is something you dnt want to be using over and over again for long periods of times was thinking about investing in a bag dnt want sum to mess my dog kidneys up
     
  11. pitbulld0gs

    pitbulld0gs Top Dog Staff Member

    I only use it during keeps.
     
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  12. Ok might still invest in a bag I have another question not to hop off topic but wat special additive do u use during ur keep to insure that ur dog kidneys dnt mess up if the go the distance in a show ?
     
  13. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    There are no additives.

    If a dog starts off with healthy kidneys the dog should end up with healthy kidneys.

    Most damage that is done to the kidneys in keeps is dehydration, working with a dump in him and eating shitty proteins that are hard to digest.

    Avoid those three things as a healthy dog will remain a healthy dog, kidneys included.

    After the keep, after the race, rehydrating is key. Then making sure the dog gets to piss at will. If he is crated or boxed afterward he needs to be allowed to piss freely, not having to hold it til your convenience.

    Odds are if it is a hard endeavor he will pass some blood. Fresh water, moderate walking and pissing will bring him back to a healthy state.

    S
     
  14. I appreciate your input thanks
     
  15. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    Most of use take all the credit for the dog's keep, and still find a way to blame the dogs when it goes wrong.

    One of the simplest and truest principles is that the dog is doing all the work before, during and after so they get all the credit. When any thing, and I mean any thing goes wrong, it is our fault.

    S
     
  16. I can agree with that especially if they go the distance I just want to ensure that I'm as knowledgeable as I can be to help them recover from all their hard work
     
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  17. slim12

    slim12 CH Dog Staff Member

    The most effective way to check is thru actual blood work, a complete work up. And to improve upon that would be to do it every other week as you work and adjustments can be made.

    For most that is inconvenient, too expensive and in this day and time, to risky.

    When supplementing realize a large portion passes right thru. For the kidneys and liver, it is like 'one more thing' they have to deal with.

    Watch the urine. If it starts to darken let up on the supplements and let the urine clear.

    Limit the supplements as most dogs do not need what they are given but it sure makes us feel better when we jack them full of super this and super that.

    Rapid weight loss is usually water first, so cutting a pound or two off a dog already lean and fit can get sketchy. Pull it off him slow and over time. Crash weight loss is usually a lot of water and the poor old kidneys end up like cardboard.

    It is a hard job to do but really simple. The job itself is simple, the hard part is forcing yourself to do it the right way...every day.

    Best of luck.

    This is a pretty good place to hang your hat if learning is the goal.

    S
     
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  18. Consider my hat hung and giving my athlete a bunch of super this and that did make me feel like I was giving that extra edge was nw I think I was doing mre harm then gud and by them going the distance and me lacking in having wat I think is a essential rehydration solution has taught me a great lesson
     

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