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Russian Bill's Gr. Ch. 35

Discussion in 'APBT History' started by CHATNJACK, Jan 24, 2007.

  1. CHATNJACK

    CHATNJACK Big Dog

    It was a blistering hot day in central Oklahoma the second time I saw the little buckskin dog that as fate would have it, was eventually to change my life. We were in the midst of the heat wave of 1980, suffering through over forty straight days of hundred degree plus temperatures, and when I heard the knock at my door, I really didn't feel like answering, not just because of the heat, but due mostly to one of the worst hangovers of my adult life. Fortunately I did answer, only to be confronted by a fellow who looked at least as bad as I felt. I didn't recognize him immediately as we had only met once before and it wasn't until I saw the dog in the back seat of his car that I knew who it was that had summoned me from my nauseous stupor aboard the "porcelain pony" in my bathroom. He probably didn't remember my name either as we had only spoken briefly one day when I had seen him walking the pup and stopped to ask about it. He didn't know how the dog was bred and said only that a friend had given it to him as a young pup the last time he passed through New Mexico, judging from his apparent age, at least six or eight months ago. I thought no more about the man or his pup until that day, several months later, when in the scorching midday sun, he and the dog showed up on my doorstep. He said, "I know you know about these dogs and I was wondering if you would give me thirty -five dollars for him. I have to go away to Macalister (state prison) for a few months and my wife doesn't like the dog. It's okay if you want to fight him or whatever." My first impulse, standing there staring at him, his long sweat-soaked hair clinging to the ashen skin of his face and neck, (and my stomach doing cartwheels across my torso ) was to tell him to "take a hike" so I could rush back to my retreat in the "John". But a little voice in the back of my brain ( the crazy "dog man" voice ) said "Hey Bill, you can't raise a pup to a year old for thirty-five dollars, much less buy one. Maybe you should give it a shot?" I said "Wait here. I'll see if I have the cash." It turned out to be one of the luckiest ( if not the most immediately enjoyable ) decisions I've ever made. I must confess I didn't even feel like walking the yearling pup for almost twenty-four hours. I just put him in a crate downstairs and went back to wishing I were temporarily dead.

    I remember marveling at how uncannily silent the dog was, never making a peep the whole time, nor did he soil his crate before I finally got around to taking him out. It was only then that I saw he was absolutely covered with ticks! They were in his ears, between his toes, in his armpits, everywhere! So, after he took a long, long pee and moved his bowels our first mission was to soak him good with a powerful insecticide. I noticed too, on that first walk with him, that he would go in any direction except where you wanted him to go, a trait which would stay with him the rest of his life. And one which isn't too convenient for trying to "empty out" a match dog. I got him "wormed out" as well as taking care of the tick problem and wondered if my money might not have been better spent on feed for the twenty or so dogs I already owned. After all I didn't even know the breeding of the dog and what were the odds of this orphan turning out to be worth keeping? But he was mine now and the money was gone; I might as well keep an open mind about him and see how my investment turned out. I mean, I had some well bred dogs in my yard but nothing that was looking like a world-beater, and who knows, maybe this little buckskin dog would be that "ace" every dog man dreams of.

    He was already a year old so it wouldn't take much longer or much feed to find out. And he was a good-looking little dog, nice head, good body structure and big teeth! Five or six weeks later I decided to walk him up to another of my males to see if he might be ready to start. I chose "Cody", a well bred "Hank"/ "Jesse", "Bolio" cross with some "old Wallace" and "Jim Williams" blood mixed in too. He was a few pounds larger and six months older than the buckskin pup, who at that point I don't think I'd even chosen a name for, ( no sense in "wasting" a good name on a dog that would probably "quit" anyway, right? ) But this was just to be a "starter bump" anyway, to see how badly I'd squandered my thirty-five bucks. I wouldn't let "Cody" hurt him, as "Cody" had started and looked promising in rolls and, of course, the pup had no experience at all. I intended to give him the same chance as all my dogs got, to "make the grade", though I vowed he would certainly get "game-tested" a lot harder due to my lack of confidence in his, at least to me, mysterious family tree. I took him off his chain and approached "Cody" cautiously, as I didn't even bother to pick up a breaking stick, so sure was I that probably nothing would happen anyway between the two youngsters. "Cody" stiff-legged it and growled but before either "Cody" or myself could do anything to stop him ( we had different methods in mind, "Cody" and I ) the pup had grabbed "Cody" by the side of the head, flipped him over his shoulder and was vigorously shaking and working his hold! Fortunately I was seasoned enough not to panic but I was so surprised that it took me a few moments to collect myself enough to formulate a plan and get the now angrily combative, young adversaries apart. Later, after putting the soon to be named, buckskin "pup" back on his chain, I had a chance to ponder what had happened. What had happened? "How did that thirteen month old "pup" do that to "Cody", I wondered? Soon enough I would understand that it wasn't a fluke I had just witnessed but the coming of age of the best pit dog I have ever seen. That tick-infested, buckskin "pup" of unknown breeding was soon to become the feared, "35" Dollar Dog, destined to win eight straight contract matches, without a loss, and would eventually become known as the famous...GR. CH "35"



    RUSHIN' BILL






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  2. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    Rushin Bill, No?
     
  3. CHATNJACK

    CHATNJACK Big Dog

    Yea I typ0'ed BIG TIME! Hope ya enjoyed it anyways. To much morphine & not enough sleep I guess :D
     
  4. mrsmickey351

    mrsmickey351 Guest

    Kinda cool he is in some of our pedigrees. Great story!! Thanks for the read. Anyone else have any of his blood?
     
  5. pennsooner

    pennsooner CH Dog

    Because of the fact that no one knew what the breeding was on him, he wasn't bred much if any. I've never seen him in a ped. Dosen't mean he isn't in some dogs ped somewhere but I've never heard of or seen it. By the way, I'm from central Oklahoma (Norman) and I remember that Summer of 1980. It was hot beyond belief. Stayed over 110 for a high for over 40 days, sometimes hitting 120.
     
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  6. The Watcher

    The Watcher Till The Wheels Fall Off.

    morphine? what?
     
  7. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

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  8. BoiBoi

    BoiBoi CH Dog

    ok so here's a question, gr. ch. 35 was barely bred because rushin bill didn't know the dogs bloodline, but the dog turned out to be the best dog that bill had at the time and won 8 contract matches. Now my question is if u were in bill's shoes would u have bred the dog more times than bill did and started a whole new bloodline with "35" as the base to the blood. I would think that the dog has proved himself more than worthy of being bred so if i were bill i think i would have bred him to different line-bred bitches and tested out the results of each breeding until i came up with a good cross.

    Also can anyone pull up the production records of "35", if there even are any because i would like to see he was throwing
     
  9. BoiBoi

    BoiBoi CH Dog

    bump....somebody, anybody give me ur opinion on the above question
     
  10. mrsmickey351

    mrsmickey351 Guest

    For the non believers here is Rushin Bill's Gr. Ch. 35 in a pedigree.
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=219333




     
  11. mrsmickey351

    mrsmickey351 Guest

    Here is his offspring list that is on peds online. I have to agree I would have bred him alot more to see what he would throw.

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/offspring.php?dog_id=17702
     
  12. Scotsman

    Scotsman Top Dog

    There are quite a few people that show dogs that aren't of the lines they normally use. "35" is kinda like that, I know people that might have all RBJ dogs and maybe and odd ball dog that they are showing because it is a good dog. But, they have no intention of introducing that dog into their breeding program.
    They thing is too, if you have a good program going why risk throwing a way a breeding with a good female to a stud with unknown origins if you can breed to a stud that you know the background.
    And I have seen a couple dogs with "35" in their peds.
     
  13. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

    Did any of the dogs he produced go on to do anything worthwhile?
     
  14. The Watcher

    The Watcher Till The Wheels Fall Off.

    I would have bred him.. fed or farmed the pups to those who have seen 35 prove himself (anyone that hasent seen him would be biased and not give the pup a fair chance because of the circumstances) after a huge culling expedition if (if) I had something worth breeding, I would.
     
  15. 14rock

    14rock GRCH Dog

    Woulda fed and bred him, no doubt. However, I wouldnt of let a damn thing go, and I would of stuck to many diffrent lines. The trick would of been finding the right blood, he was bred off, because in all reality, he was probably an outcrossed dog with that ability.
     
  16. Scotsman

    Scotsman Top Dog

    I would probably have done the same thing as Bill. I mean how much time and effort are you willing to waste on a dog with unknown origins? You breed him to 4 good females all from different lines and get 5 pups per litter and then have to wait 2 years for 20 pups to mature, that on top of your regular breeding program, that is a lot of time and effort.
     
  17. bump...great historical article, and a good following discussion that I wanted to get back out there.
     
  18. SPFDOGS

    SPFDOGS Guest

    A friend of mine has a 1xer that pulled wt for 2:12 and proved to be ALL BULLDOG,but hasnt been bred and probably wont get bred because his backround is unknown..
     
  19. ColbyDogs

    ColbyDogs Top Dog

    Not to be a thread Necro but I just saw this and had to add to it. Me personally I would have changed my entire breeding program around this dog. What ever breeding program I was working off of would've stopped and I would have focused all my effort on "35" . When you have a dog of this calibar how could you not want more ?

    The only thing I can think happened here is that Bill tried and failed with a breeding program off of 35. It shows in his ped that he produced 2 pups so either someone hung a ped trying to ride the fame of "35" or the program proved unworthy and Bill discontinued the program. IMHO "35" was the poster child of " the dog making the ped " not the ped making the dog. I would have backed him up to every female on my yard til i finally found something that worked.
     
  20. MASONDOGS

    MASONDOGS Pup

    there are many different versions of this story...hell i know the man who reffed and help school 35...35 was bred more than what shows on peds online....come on guys lmao just cause its not on peds doesnt mean it didnt happen...truth is he didnt produce anything really...and why would anyone drop their program to base it on 35...was he a great dog,,,yes... that doesnt mean he can produce though...
     
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