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Stafford ramblings

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by springview, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Idont need to check any records the dog WAS left in Scotland and we journeyed back there later to pick the dog up from the same place he was matched . The Tosca dog won five matches thats a fact because they were not reported dont mean he wasnt a GRCH only not in the eyes of the Journal and those who are not involved in matching dogs , everyone knew the dog . I never reported matches to the Journal but others did a number of matches were accredited to me that had nothing to do with me , but it obviously made the others feel good other natches like CH Oneye were reported as being owned by others thats fine also , all credit to the Scotsman for matching into Bruno he was a good dogman that had some great dogs , so my friend theres nothing strange in what i posted just that you were not involved hence wouldnt know hope this answers your queries have a grea day
     
  2. Westway

    Westway Big Dog

    Im not arguing over history but you didnt leave Bruno with the Scotsman.....so have a nice day yourself aswell.
     
  3. Westway

    Westway Big Dog

    Im not saying Tosca didnt win 5 or more think it was 6 anyway just saying tosca was never officially registered as a gr ch, Ian G mustnt have been bothered. Its like CH Max he was 5 xw but the Scotsman only reported 4, why didnt the owners claim the titles back then......waste of time saying my dog is a ch or gr ch or beat a gr ch now........ if the titles ment anything why werent they claimed back then........heres tosca strange looking dog any idea how tosca was bred springview.

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  4. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    the tosca dog was very strange looking, i have no idea how he was bred . if you expand that photo out westway you will show the dogs tail, it was as thick as hell
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  5. Westway

    Westway Big Dog

    Thanx 4 posting that sunbeam never seen full picture saw tosca many moons ago tho.....looked, like some kind of cross but you never know with these dogs.
     
  6. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    i woud have bet he was a cross f some sort on appearance alone.never seen a pure stafford or bulldog with a tail as bushy as his.

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  7. Dusty Road

    Dusty Road CH Dog

    I took that photo in the mid 1980s, he was a strange dog and had a silky type of coat, i don't know what type of cross he was, maybe some bull terrier / wheaten mix, seen some in past that looked a bit like him from that mix...did not have any stafford features
     
  8. sunbeam

    sunbeam CH Dog

    cheers ricky, the dog looks like some ebt x collies that were bred accidently round here a few years back, infact he is the double of one i see walked regularly..
     
  9. maxwell

    maxwell Pup

    As for the bitch that lost to Beanie three or four or five then once again your wrong , this bitch had nothing at all to do with me and this was common knowledge , not one hair on the dog was owned by me and both the bitches were sahgite in fact i told the owner of the losing bitch to pick her up at ten mins and cull her so whoevor you are your wrong
    I took the time today to speak to my good friend Tup's and asked about this ... he said that Roxy was totaly your breeding and that he trusted you as a friend....he also told me he wanted to bring Roxy home .but you said you couldn't risk being caught with a banged up dog in the car (What if she won ?).. ah well its history now .. hey
     
  10. bendover

    bendover Banned

    the truth is mr sprinveiw couldnt hack and still dont like the fact that roxy a female that was heavy his blood was beat! yes beat by a female that h was psycho,english, whatever he calls its blood!
     
  11. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    In Ireland in the late 70s early 80s, dog men got rid of a lot of that dublin red stuff because it could not compete with the psycho and similar bred dogs, the dublin red ware not the strain the people in uk thought they ware, most ware heavy set bad winded dogs, when psycho was in the dublin area, the men with the red dog bred to him and his son, and the results ware much better, springview can say what he likes, iv seen his writings in verious mags and books, and a lot is exaggerated, as for men of ireland he mentions like s.mc'nutt this man was not a big deal in the irish dog game ..can springview mention 5 good dogs he had, and what made them good
     
  12. Finito

    Finito Big Dog

    It would be wrong to criticise Seamus or ask in what he owned or done in the dogs. He is a knowledgeable man regarding the staffords & dogmen he was around,which was mainly kc dogs & their owners. He would not tell you otherwise & SV has not said anything implying anything other than he respects him.
     
  13. Finito

    Finito Big Dog

    .............as for the Beanie female you said was shit SV,shame on you. Was there a better stafford female of that era or since ? I doubt it.
    Don't be a hypocrite & say you would give respect to those dogs who were still doing what they were bred for & then put down a female who was a good "stafford".
     
  14. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    was not putting s mc nutt down but just pointing out the he or his dogs had very little impact on the sporting dog scene in ireland, and how springview just keeps dropping names to give importance to his writings,
     
  15. I had a very interesting chat with a few friends at the weekend about you anwl//maxwell,,you have been slagging springvew off to number of people for a wile now,,you have said some nasty shit about him! you don't even no him,, .your a nobody in the dog game and never have been,,your an internet dog man isn't that right mush? you never had a good dog in your life fool.
     
  16. A.W.DALY

    A.W.DALY Pup

    May be if springview had not made all them exaggerated stories in books and magazines and tried to preach the truth shit on forums like this, then maybe people would not talk shit about him, the staffs he had and claims to be great pure staffs, very few people in uk know these dogs..a lot is exaggerated just like the stories in the mags and books...after all ..every stafford is a show dog, all the staffs that got matched in uk from late 70s came direct from show dogs...there is not working line of staffs from the past, they are a show dog...springview=naked heels..also refereed his own matches ???..into opponents that nobody knew who they ware ..this is fact
     
  17. activeirish

    activeirish Big Dog

    Hi Springview, I'm new here, I heard about this site from my nephew who also has been well & truely bitten by the stafford bug because of me, I'm in Derry, I've been keeping staffords 30 years, I know most of the men you've mentioned in your threads, Seamus McNutt and the Canning you mentioned would be "C" Canning?
    I also noticed some on here have little respect for those with more experience? they all must have been born 40 years old, typical these days.
     
  18. activeirish

    activeirish Big Dog

    Is that right?
     
  19. jt ellison

    jt ellison Big Dog

    Aurthur Daley let me explain to you and the others for the last time , the GRCH Bruno dog was owned and bred by Taffy a top notch dogman who fought and won all but one of his matches into top competition thats a FACT i was to condition Bruno for his first match into GRCH Tosca only , the owner of Tosca who you say noone had heard of was a wellknown dogman in England but according to you he was a nobody . The second win was over the late Rob Davison and Gardener handled , Rob owned dogs for many years such as CH Clyde ,CH Buck ,CH Deano and many others once more as YOU say nobody knew him how disrespectful you are , the third win for Bruno was over the Blue crossbred dog Moonshine who was the dog that supposedly killed the CH Phycho dog this dog was owned by Gavin from the N/E of England and he was very wellknown if not by you if not by you Mr Expert on dogs you never saw nor did your webpage doggy friends that have never matched a dog . I was asked by all parties to provide a venue and securitie for these matches and the owners of all the dogs involved insisted i referee which i was happy to do , when Taffy got out of dogs he asked me to take CH Bruno and several other good dogs , i then matched the dog into Ragger who owned CH Joe Montana , CH John Wayne and many other great dogs but once again he was according to you a nobody , the next match was into The Junkyard boys who owned CH Masada and other well known dogs , howevor you have never heard of them , next GRCH Bruno was matched into The Scotsman who owned some great dogs CH Max ,CH Yogi , CH Hagar and Charlie who beat CH Clogger so Aurthur what you say about me refereeing my own matches is a LIE and everyone now knows this . I refereed many wellknown and talked about matches for well known kennels and famous dogs lots of these were reported but my name as referee was for security reasons at my request omitted or changed just the same as i never reported matches but others did and a number of matches were accredited to me that had nothing to do with myself . As for you Maxwell your a fool that has never bred conditioned or handled a dog in a match yet you talk the talk like your something your not , the Roxy bitch was my breeding and she quit cold on all fours thats why she didnt come home , she quit thats it tough shit , i saw the match both dogs were in my opinion rubbish . Its funny how Roxys owner continued to visit me for a number of years afterwards but never mentioned the bitch , he did buy her sister and breed a number of litters from her as the basis of his yard must have forgotten to tell you when you was bitchin together . Well Maxwell why dont you and Two Ton Ted stop bitching and stop badmouthing me and put your money were your mouth is and bring it on Ted knows were to find me im waiting . Now to me mentioning various dogmen well Aurthur these people have been my friends near thirty years and i talked with them about dogs because they were all known for there honesty and knowledge , it isnt name dropping but that i repeat what these men told me that i know to be honest facts is about the respect i have for these menwho for many years answered my questions HONESTLY . As for your remarks about Seamus McNutt it just shows your lack of knowledge and respect for a man whose knowledge on all Irish breeds of gamedogs is superior to anyone ive met , when everyone ive met in Ireland tells me hes a gentleman whose word and knowledge is second to none , as for him not owning dogs hes owned dogs like Battling Duchesss who is behind all the Red staffords plus a number of Wellknown Irish Show Champions including the countries top winning Green star bitch , he also owned the strongest Nelis (rom) dogs in Ireland and bred outstanding dogs from them , that YOU didnt know about the dogs he owned obviously means he didnt own them . I dont know you Activeirish but yes the men you mention are friends of mine we talked only yesterday as for CC . he had a number of staffords from me over the years all were proven dogs and in turn he sent me Pure Wheatens as he was the only person that kept the old pure strain of working Wheaten and deserves great respect for doing so . Now that Aurthur has had things explained about the Bruno dog perhaps he will show me were i refereed a match were i was matching my own dog that isnt FACTS but a LIE and everyone in the game now knows this .Last but not least my post has my name if you wanna talk shite then at least put your name to it dont hide behind a board stand up like a man and lets see just who is who ive had this shite for years and each time these people fade away and fresh experts appear that have never matched a dog , what i talk about is facts that i saw not what others who were not there told me, if a dogs a good dog then i say so but aint noone gonna tell me dogs that i saw quit cold were game nor dogs from them gamebred ,Maxwell what i talk about is the past and this in your eyes might make me a has been but its better to be a has been who actually matched dogs than like yourself a NEVER WAS . TRhis is my last posting on these matters your friend Ted has my number IM WAITING !!!!!!!!!!
     
  20. jt ellison

    jt ellison Big Dog

    I forgot your remark FINITO about Roxy being a good game stafford well you were not there you did not see the bitch quit on all four feet refusing to run a curtesy so dont talk about things you have no knowledge about like Roxy you never saw CH Mitsi , CH Molly , CH Jess , CH Jessie , CH Squaw or GRCH Brindy or CH Kim in fact you never saw any of these dogs so how would you know what constitutes a good stafford bitch as youve never matched one yourself have you
     

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