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Teastas Mor trial rules

Discussion in 'Staffordshire Bull Terriers' started by F.W.K., Sep 27, 2017.

  1. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    Teastas Mor trial rules

    IKC Rules



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    1. The trials must be conducted strictly within the law and are restricted to dogs and bitches which have not already qualified for the Teastas Mor certificate.

    2. a) A veterinary surgeon must be in attendance at the trial. Under no circumstances may a trial take place without one, and his name and address must be recorded on the application for a licence and on the licence issued by the Kennel Club.

    2. b) In the event of any serious injury occurring to any dog or badger, the animal at the discretion of the Veterinary Surgeon shall be humanely and expeditiously destroyed

    3. The trial of any dog must be in natural setts. Under no circumstances may tests be carried out in artificial setts. A dog may not be tried more than twice in any trial.

    4. Once a badger is drawn, it must not be released or returned to the earth until the conclusion of the trials.

    5. Badger in captivity shall not be used for tests or training.

    6. Sounders are expected to go the ground with alacrity. When a sounder reports the presence of game by a full and sustained tongue, a reasonable time shall be allowed before diggers begin to work. When the sounders records persistently from one section of the sett, digging shall commence under the direction of the judges.

    7. The badger shall be drawn by a strong terrier, with the assistance if necessary, and the size of the badger and undergroun conditions noted by the judges.

    8. If a sett is apparently unoccupied, several terriers may be run through it and their eagerness to search noted.

    9. With regards to strong terriers, the Teastas Mor is to be awarded to the terrier showing gameness in attacking badgers. Five minutes is the minimum period a terrier shall be in contact with the badger, except when the terrier draws the badger in less time. Each terrier shall be withdrawn as soon as possible after the five minutes have expired. The judges may direct that a terrier be again tried if , in their opinion, the first trial was for any reason an insufficient test.

    10. Five minutes are to be allowed a terrier before being disqualified for failing to get in contact.

    11. Barking shall be eliminated as much as possible and disqualification will follow barking after contact, provided that no terrier is disqualified for barking when in actual contact
     
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  2. greenzone

    greenzone Pup

    A very interesting read,I knew about badger trials but never read the actual account, thanks
     
  3. Very interesting read, I've know about this subject for some time now, but yet this was some what new to me, you learn something new every day :)
     
  4. Nice read..I never new that mate...
    i always thought the triels were conducted in arificel earths or setts..and i was under the impression the Badgers were caught and fed up to a week or so before the triel.???
    I suppose the triels lasted a bit longer after they were outlawed.and im thinking they probably would of been conducted to higher standards after they were banned???...
    these triels were banned in the late sixtys..but the Badger act did not come in untill the early ninteys,so they still could have been conducted with out much interference from the law..
    so from the period they were banned,up on till the ninetys,perhaps the rules were alterd a little???
    dose any one on the board no of any rules after the triels were banned???

    Sorry for bumping up a old thread...
    theres just not a lot of info or recorded history surrounding this subject.

    All the best
     
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  5. Finito

    Finito Big Dog

    Those rules relate to the kc trials.
    There was another which is less known about as I believe there was certain club rules which clamped down on outside publicity. Dogs noted for that work will be from the early 70"s onwards.........
     
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  6. FrozenEli

    FrozenEli Top Dog

    2 b. Seems like some bullshit to me. That's the owners call, not the veterinarian that's getting paid to be there I'm sure.
     
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  7. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    2b.

    I inherited a Rottweiler many years ago as I got out of the service. I fed him one night and did not latch the pen gate correctly and he got out. He went to the road and was hit by a car.

    I was never a 'vet' guy with the other dogs but this dog was not completely mine and I felt responsible. He had a broken femur, up high, close to the hip. The vet looked me in the eye and said, "When I get in and if I can not return him to the quality of life I think he deserves, I will go ahead and put him down". I said, "come out and let me know my options before you make that call". He said, "I am giving you your option now".

    He pissed me off some sort of bad. He saved the dog and in the end the dog completed his SCHb. Lived to be 13.

    That vet turned out to be the greatest vet ever. We were close friends. Rabbit hunted together. He even said I had a certain set of 'skills' he could occasionally use in his practice. We both laughed.

    I called bullshit on 2b as well, but my personal 2b turned out very well.

    S
     
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  8. I took a little longer on the 2 b.
    must be the wedding cake...

    Owners distcresion...
    but i bet the vets were be then..more dog savvy if you like.

    Haha.lol.
    great story Slim.
    i bet your vet freind lernt more from you then he did at colege!
    hence the "skills" he mentiond.....

    And lol.back to the 2 b.
    dose any ond no what the fuck "experditinonly"means???
     
  9. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    I don't know the word at all.

    He was an old school vet, back when he was referred to more as a 'old horse doctor'.

    His retirement was a sad day around here.

    S
     
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  10. Ide cherish a vet like that man...and i aint ever met one.mores the pitty i say.

    And i dont no what the fuck the word means eitther lol...
    must defintly be the wedding cake.
     
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  11. Hey Slim do read every thread man???
    i never thought youed bother reading about this old stuff lol.

    All the best.
     
  12. F.W.K.

    F.W.K. CH Dog

    "Badger Trials"





    For as long as people have been keeping terriers in Ireland people have been arguing over who had the better dogs, in the middle part of of this century men would bring their Terriers and Strong Dogs to big badger setts and enter the terriers one at a time or if the sett was big enough enter a second terrier in another part and work a different badger.

    Judges would decide which terrier was better at locating and holding his game. When they dug down to the terrier they would take him out and then enter a strong dog (draw dog) to pull out the badger and work him. Judges would also determine which dogs did this well and not so well, whatever the case. A natural progression from this was to dig out your own "sett" and control the work a lot easier. A series of shores were dug turning left and right and leading to a "pot" where the Badger would be placed. This would be all covered over with timber. Two shore systems were dug, one for the terriers and one for the strong dogs (Staffords, English Bulls, Wheatens, etc). The dogs would be given a minute to negotiate the shores and enter the badger and 6 minutes to work him. Terriers were expected to create an almighty ruccus when they entered but they didn't have to as long as they worked their game. The strong dogs were expected to go in and work the badger without making a sound. If they made noise or if the Judges, listening overhead, felt they weren't working their badger they would be lifted. A dog that worked well was deemed to have qualified.

    The health of the badgers was paramount to a successful trials, they would be captured in the two weeks running up to the event and needed to be fed well while in captivity, afterwards they would be released and would be a lot wiser the next time somebody came after them, they say the real test of a dog is to hold onto a Badger that has been caught already. The size of the trial depended on the amount of badgers needed because after 2 or 3 strong dogs some badgers had enough and had to be changed or else it became unfair to the dogs that went first, not to mention the Badgers.

    The Badger Trials ended when the media turned the public against the terrier folk and they could no longer have their sport without police intervention. A lot of the Badger digging community got into Pit Bulls as a result of this and the Badger Trials slipped into history.

    The Irishman
     
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  13. phoenix walk

    phoenix walk Big Dog

    Teastas mor is Irish for big test.
     
  14. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    If it is about dogs I will give it a try. LOL

    S



     
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  15. Hahaha.....
    same here man.same here.

    all the best.
     

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