Todays staffords it's a shame

What a lovely couple Jim and Nancy are,I spent hours chatting with them both,they remember all there dogs with great affection,there stock was fiesty and shows up in a lot of the so called game staffords from the late 70's early 80's,but yes they did show there dogs and nothing else.
Regards

 

its not because i said anything that your dogs not game its possibly because your dog has not been tested its parents have not been tested ...if your dog is game...how do you know ?..most people who own these dogs don't test them but still breed from them, if you want staffords to compete with APBTs you will have to be ruthless, and cull ungame inferior dogs, and i know a lot who buy a dog from a so call game line of staffs..never test them...staffs as sportings dogs are f::ked

 

hello my name is josé phillip skofkinsky, i have game staffords, dog fighting tested stock

i live in united republic of bananas in wich is illegal to fight dogs, in case of need officer please pm me for full adress, my security number is 123456789 and my phone number is 555 19726663147.
i have no fire arms at home, please officer come and jail me plezz


i agree that there must exist a strict selection but i also understand that loose lips sink ships

 

LMFAO!!!!! this one made me pee alittle...haha

 

So tell me this, what did they do to try and resurect the breed???
I have 2 dogs, one from working lines and one from show, so I see very distinct differance between them. There 2 entire different personalities and disposition neither one is over 30 yrs old.

 

well im saying before the late 1970s, there was not 1 working line...people that did stuff with their dogs, did it with dogs that show aggression no matter what line they came from..all came at that time from show dogs (fact)...it was not till dogfight became popular again from the mid 1970s..that people started breeding (inbreeding, linebreeding) from the winning dogs did they start to get what is now called working/game lines

 

Brilliant hun
Tracie x

 

I may be wrong but dont most breeds come working lines or a dog breed for a purpose 1st then someone or groupy's decide make a show standard for the breed??

 

They ware the same as pitbulls before the kc recognized staffs, so the working version is the pitbull, staff bull terrier and amstaff are kc show versions !

 

Don´t think you see any KC-REG american Staffordshire Terrier

 

kc is a way of talking..that means fci registed dog's

 

kennel club , its all the same what country u put in front of it...its still kc

 

Todays staffords may not b what they used to be, I agree with that. I also agree that the kennel clubs may have had a lot of to do with this but another major factor being the amount of bad publicity these dogs are given. Too many ppl keeping them as status symbols and don't know how to properly raise or care for them and this causes problems which leads to incidents ending up in newspapers or on the news then the police crack down on the breed as a whole and not just the individuals.there are many reasons but in the seventies it was all kept tight lipped and kept within a small community and out of the public eye. This has all changed and as far as I'm concerned this had a devastating effect on the breed. Iv only just got my first stafford and I havnt a clue about lines he's from or whatever cos he's got no papers. But I have an active interest in the breeds history and just thought I'd express my opinion although I may be way off the mark

 

a good majorty of old game dogs were bred from kc show type staffs

 

I'd have to say the pug being bred into them is the ravings of some dreamer, i'm pretty sure they've got that way by breeding from the smallest available stock and inbreeding them in an effort to keep them small and of the same type/look.
Lets face it, if a human female was to have children by her father it's bound to end up in a disaster? Dogs are warm blooded mammals therefore the same principle should apply?

 

You're right, but that was back when KC reg'd staffords were big strong dogs, then the only difference was some people fought/worked them and some showed them or kept them as pets, but they generally came from the same background, back then a stafford in the show ring looked the same as a dog from the pit with less scars. (generally)

 

Is that duelling banjos I hear?..

 

this is a nice story the cradley style pooches followers had been following and believing for a long time

 

lol scream like a hogggggg,

 

I can't even imagine believing the pug story, if that were the case modern show staffords would be noticably undershot and considering most pugs are beige in colour yet we've never seen a beige stafford?
not forgetting pugs have curly tails and I've yet to see a stafford with a curly tail also, I'd say those two points should rule out the pug issue?