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training chain tie out

Discussion in 'Products & Equipment' started by GK1, May 27, 2016.

  1. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Requesting ideas and hardware recommendations; pics are especially helpful. I want to put together a single chain tie out in my yard, fully removable with quick attachments/detachments.

    But not originating from a ground stake.

    Thinking fastening around the base of a tree/trunk (10” in diameter). About 8 feet of chain slack so the dogs can move around, drag, lunge for quick bursts while on harness or flat collar. For workouts only, as the dogs live in doors. Want the weight of the chain for strength building exercise (as opposed to steel cable). But not too heavy either. For 67/47 pound dogs.
    R/GK1
     
  2. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

  3. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Here’s what I came up with. Quick on or off from the tree. Simple and good enough for my purposes.
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  4. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    I'd say that works for temp spot like your wanting
     
  5. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    I can't help you much because everytime I do a spot I have exact opposite intentions, I'm trying to make it as hard as possible for dog to get off. I just use different collar when taking them off to work
     
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  6. Thunder98

    Thunder98 Big Dog

    Gotta give the stakeout a try AGK has...damn axles getting hard to come by at times....for me anyhow
     
  7. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    I would say hat is a good set up fro temp if you dont leave them alone and can monitor them when something goes bad...

    If you dont have time to properly put a dogs collar over an o ring and proper swivel,,,
    you might want to go back to the bulldog basics and read a book or take the advice that is given on this site...

    the size of the chain is overkill for the hardware and collar...
    the collar looks like the wieght of the chain and a good tug might open it right up,,,
    the bullsnap is a very cheap and an lazy attempt of the understanding of what and why your are tying out your dog,,,
    the threaded quick link might be also be the worse link you could use and if you dont use locktite type thread lock
    its not worth a shit and if you do its more expensive as a better link and not as strong...

    a good pic on how not to tie a bulldog out...
     
  8. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    He says it's a house dog that he basically wants to run the chain some. For that purpose I guess it would work, but as said if it were permanent then no I wouldn't recommend that
     
  9. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    As far as stakes opposed to axles, I've used stakes for about 5 years now. I've had one come up, but it rained six days in a row and he was around 47 pounds and hit the end of the chain every few mins too. It was my fault because I put it in softer ground. As long as it can't wash away they work
     
  10. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Yes the tow chain and hardware are zinc coated, scrap metal - made in the wondrous Peoples Republic of China. With my discount at Home Depot.

    I will consider upgrading over time per guidance received here. But I think this will work for my limited purposes.

    Again, set up for brief periods of supervised exercise in the yard. Minutes not hours. Dogs live inside the house.

    Working two dogs amped in prey drive at the same time can lead to accidental contact. Gash needing 12 stitches (and $400 vet bill) in my German Shepherd’s flank last year taught this lesson - the hard way. These dogs are no joke.

    One dog dragging around the heavy chain while I work the other maximizes the exercise session for both. This was my intent anyhow with the set up.

    I appreciate the contributions.
    R/
     
  11. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

    Do yourself a favor an get rid of the bull snap and get 2 O rings and slide the collar threw them. I never used a choke chain on a dog.
     
  12. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    If this is just for excersize as u say I would use some type of quick connects at the collar but make sure the connects done swivel,you will already have a swivel ,just get some nice quick connects that don't have any moving parts and use 2 of them.
     
  13. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Thanks for the advice.

    The choke pictured on my dog is on her to transition to the lead, if needed for corrections. I simply left it on her - NOT for the chain tie out. Comes in handy as I prefer a dog behaved decently while out in public. I also have a Herm Sprenger prong collar.

    I am glad you are able to train your dog(s) without a choke or prong collar. As you know, untrained, undisciplined pit bulls can be a problem.
     
  14. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Yes, as I said the rig is just for supervised exercise. Thanks, I will look into the quick connects. The PRC recycled scrap metal seems to have enough durability to handle either of the dogs and heavy enough for strength training for short intervals.
     
  15. okcdogman82

    okcdogman82 Top Dog

    bull snaps are fine just watch em cuz they wear out.
     
  16. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    You can do better than bullsnaps.I got a couple chain spots with snaps on them , but no moving parts on them.You just have to shop around.
     
  17. ELIAS'PISTOLA

    ELIAS'PISTOLA CH Dog

    For excersize I would buy a harness with drag straps to tie the chain to and have the dog pull it behind them for wight resistance training such as
    firemen do with the firehoses...
    For a more aerobics to build the lung and increase speed a flirt pole works great and the two combined balance a dogs work out well...

    Mr.Ratliff tackeled both brds with one stone as he did alot of conditioning with the dogs on cable runs dragging a chain after a flirt pole
    getting the cardio as well as strength and to boot he would work two dogs at once this way in between two cable runs
    as he said the competition between the two made for some great work outs...

    I have had a bull snaps last a good while and also seen the spring in brand new ones give with in a couple days,,,
    so I strongly recommend against them and feel if you are depending on that tiny spring too keep your bulldog safe
    you probably shouldnt have a dog at all...
    I thought I knew better and used them against manys advice and it cost me greatly...
    supervised is different...
     
  18. GK1

    GK1 Big Dog

    Good idea ELIAS'PISTOLA.
    How about posting a picture or video of one of your dogs with this set up?
     
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  19. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Lol ....
     
  20. treezpitz

    treezpitz CH Dog Staff Member

    LOL He doesn't have any dogs HAHA
     
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