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Vindicator - is the story really true?

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by PITPAL1, Aug 30, 2019.

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  1. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    I wasn’t around in the mid seventies and knew nothing of vindicator until about 12 years ago. My previous career required me to travel throughout areas of what I call the mid-south. Basically a long oval from northern Texas up to southern Missouri, across southern IL, IN, OH, then through western parts of WV, VA, NC, and back across the northern parts of GA, AL, MS with the states of KY and TN being my base camp so to speak. To make a long story short I became good friends with a guy from southern MO who had strong family ties in Arkansas and Virginia.

    When my great grandfather died 3 months shy of his 100th birthday in 2008 I got go through his journals. Turned out that my good friends grandfather and great uncle were from an area of southern IN called the Beech Hills. Even today, many people in these hills live the way people did 200 yrs ago. No electric, power, or indoor plumbing.

    One of the stories I was able to chase down through my great granddads journals and speaking with my friends who now reside in northern Arkansas was that vindicator actually ended up in the western mountains of Virginia, and lived to be around 12 years old and sired a bunch of dogs.

    Is there anyone that has heard anything like this?
     
  2. stedz

    stedz Big Dog

    Interesting stuff.
     
  3. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    I got rushed earlier because a customer showed up early. Should have said that my great grandpa grew up just a couple miles from the beech hills. His family was very well off financially and owned a lot of good farm ground that butted up to the beech hills. He grew up raising fighting cocks and the sport still goes on today in those hills. Dog fights were also popular in that area but I don’t believe it still goes on.
    So it turned out that my friends great uncle and my great grandfather were close friends probably from the early 1930’s until sometime in the 60’s when the family moved to MO. They remained friends and bulldogs were traded, bought, and sold between the families located in MO, IN and VA.
    From the journal entries I know the last names of these dog men were Coy, McCoy, Mccormicks, Wilson, DeLisle, Peters, Halter, Berry, and Robinson. If anyone knows or is related to anyone with these names that were bulldog owners I’d love to hear from you. This history has consumed me over the past few years but I’ve hit a dead end. All the men who would have been around in those days have passed on, along with my close friend and his father and uncles. Since I don’t have any connections to the folks in VA I’m just throwing this out there hoping someone will read it and remember a story that might line up.
    God Bless, and have a wonderful Labor Day weekend.
     
  4. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    :-?:-S......
     
  5. GrChDiamondJimmy

    GrChDiamondJimmy KING ZEBO

    Im really not surprised by this at all I mean some people will say to this day that Zebo did not kill Art and Zebo did not produce well even when there is an insurmountable amount of evidence and countless dog men disputing these claims otherwise.

    Maybe they wanted to cover something or jealousy was involved like it was in zebos case I dont know, but I thought it was pretty much on record that the brother to the great grand champion zebo, vindicator, died due to heartworms at a young age just like zebos sister rosie, under lonzo pratts sh-tty trashy care.

    thats interesting though.
     
  6. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

    What do you know about Lonzo and how he kept his dogs? You're a Zebo groupie that's criticizing the very man who bred the dog of your dreams.. What have you ever done gives you the right to disrespect him? You're only a fan boy and every time you post you reek of it.. Lonzo Pratt was a true dogman and respected by his peers, do you really believe anyone cares what you think? Learn some fucking respect!
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  7. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

  8. GrChDiamondJimmy

    GrChDiamondJimmy KING ZEBO

    LISTEN MOTHA TRUCKA I KNOW YOU ARE A SCHOLAR,, YOU CARE ABOUT THE DOG MEN,, ME I AM MORE ABOUT THE DOGS THEMSELVES. THE BREED!!!!!!!!!!

    YOU KNOW WHO I RESPECT??? I RESPECT THIS MAN LESTER HUGHES !!!!!!!!!
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    BECAUSE HE TREATED HIS DOGS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WHO CARES WHAT I THINK???? WELL IM NOT CONCERNED OR LOOKING FOR VALIDATION OF OTHER PEOPLE BUT ZEBO CARES WHAT I THINK!!!! ZEBOS SPIRIT CAME TO ME AND HE ACCEPTS!!!!
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  9. GrChDiamondJimmy

    GrChDiamondJimmy KING ZEBO

    YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT RESPECT ALSO? YOU HAVE ALREADY SHOWN YOUR DISRESPECT TOWARDS ZEBO IN YOUR POSTS IN THE PAST. DONT TALK TO ME ABOUT RESPECT.
     
  10. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

    FUCK UP FANBOY!
     
  11. GrChDiamondJimmy

    GrChDiamondJimmy KING ZEBO

    YOU WANNA SPANKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????
     
  12. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    Is this the same window licker that's had 10 accounts in less than a week.....
     
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  13. oldguy

    oldguy Top Dog

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  14. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    From what I remember reading, Mr Hughes told his wife to take a hammer out with her to feed Zebo. You know why that is right??? I think EVERYONE, but YOU, understood Zebo was a dangerous dog and a liability to keep....
     
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  15. david63

    david63 CH Dog

    I have your slimy snake
     
  16. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    One thing that kinda stumps me about the whole story is that (and I could be mistaken) was that vindicator won his second fight when he was about 2 years and two months of age. I don’t remember exactly how long it went but if memory serves me it was a long match. I asked my vet if he thought it was likely that a dog suffering from heart worm would be able to be conditioned for a fight let alone win in a long contest only to die a few months later from heart worm. He just looked at me like I had three eyes and replied “not likely”. He went on to say that dogs with heart worm will cough and become winded very easily. Does anyone know the exact timeline or have experience with a dog that has actually contracted heart worm and the physical toll it takes on a dog before it’s fatal?
     
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  17. GrChDiamondJimmy

    GrChDiamondJimmy KING ZEBO

    man I just busted out laughing almost pissed myself
     
  18. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    Fuck it... Pitpal, you the police
     
  19. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    I’m glad I could contribute to bit of happiness for your day. Lol
     
  20. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Pup

    I’m not sure if that’s a bad thing or a good thing. But thank your for the reply. Are you a breeder?
     

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