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Vindicator - is the story really true?

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by PITPAL1, Aug 30, 2019.

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  1. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    It ain’t good... by your posts, the types of dogs I like and have wouldn’t be a good idea for you... or me
     
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  2. Holocaust

    Holocaust Match dog

    Lmfao at c-note.

    Let them live big dog hahahaha



    And years for heartworms to truly take their toll. Anyone who has ever conditioned a dog let alone a few and any with heartworms will tell you(as did the 5-0s vet) you arent gonna condition one for the long haul and it drop dead on you 2 months later from the heart worms.... they would've killed u in keep
     
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  3. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Big Dog

     
  4. PITPAL1

    PITPAL1 Big Dog



    Knowing what you know about how heart worm affects dogs, what is your thought on the truth of the vindicator story??
     
  5. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Thanks to Vicki for this.....
    Many fanciers are not familiar with this brother to ZEBO, who was also an excellent match dog. Surprisingly, it was VINDICATOR who was better known among active dog men around the South. Few of the Southern fanciers knew a lot about zebo, but they were familiar with VINDICATOR'S wins over top-notch bulldogs. An example of this is when Irish Jerry wrote a letter to the editor of one of the magazines, questioning if VINDICATOR'S wins were used to build up zebo's long match record. Quite a few dog men saw VINDICATOR'S decisive wins over Finley's CH. BO, R(J.1. (Sire of JEEP) and Baker Davis' JASPER. In both matches VINDICATOR came in under the weight but won in dramatic fashion. VINDICATOR and his sister ROSIE were quite different in appearence than their brother,zebo. While zebo was black and squarely built. VINDICATOR was a red, red nose with a wedge shaped head. VINDICATOR was longer and built lower to the ground. The difference in appearences was striking enough to cause speculation that they were sired by Lonzo's ANDY, but out of different es. In spite of this difference both dogs were matched at around the same weight and had similar styles.ZEBO and VINDICATOR were powerful bulldogs, they put tremendous pressure on their opponents, had good mouths and liked the front end.

    Lonzo Pratt bred these dogs and matched VINDICATOR into Finley's BO. Lonzo had bet Bob Finley that Bo would not scratoh over an hour into the match, but Bo did scratch showing good gameness. Bo was picked up at 1:30 and refused a courtesy scratch. Few fanciers present blamed BO for not scratching, he had taken a lot from VINDICATOR. Of course, Bo went on to win a championship and proved to be a great producer of match dogs.

    Atlas Brewer purchased VINDICATOR and his sister ROSIE after the win over BO. Rumor at the time had it that several "VINDICATORS" were sold but Brewer was confident that he purchased the real VINDICATOR and matched him into JASPER. a son of GR.CH. BOOMERANG out of Davis' PIGGY.

    JASPER proved to be a tough opponent. He and VINDICATOR had the same style. The long trip caused VINDICATOR to dry out and he came in two pounds light. which made him a significant underdog. For an Hour and a half these two brutes were locked together like two monkeys. There were no turns. no out of hold counts. VINDICATOR was voted BEST IN SHOW over SNOOTY and RASCAL who also won that night.

    Fortunately, VINDICATOR'S sister ROSIE was loaned to my brother in exchange for a BEST IN SHOW winner HURRICANE CARTER. While on loan ROSIE whelped a litter by Devine's 3x winner BRUCE;(BOOMERANG x PATTI), which produced St. B.'s CHERUB (SARAH) who in turn whelped St. B.'s DYLAN.

    Ben Van H. bred many winners from DYLAN including a dog he called TAPS who recently won over Duhon's T-BONE in 2:20, ROSIE died from heartworms shortly after the BRUCE breeding. VINDICATOR'S impact as a stud dog was negligible, but the blood was carried on by his sister ROSIE and ZEBO.

    ~ by Barney Fife
     
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  6. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Beat dogs from Bob Finley and Baker Davis, I always thought Vindicator was the better brother ... Just my opinion!
     
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  7. CockneyRebel

    CockneyRebel Big Dog

    Best better competition, who was it now that saw the roll between Zebo and Vindicator?
     
  8. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    Way better looking dog in every way as well in my opinion.
     
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  9. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    Looks alone, I like Zebo. I’m partial to blk dogs... Vindi almost looks like an ofrn
     
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  10. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    I feel the same. A lot of people say Zebo was ugly and they didn't like his structure. From the pictures I've seen of him he is built just like a shit brickhouse. Just like I like mine to be. Very square, thick and powerful structure.

    Anyone have any pictures of his sister Rosie?.
     
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  11. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

  12. AGK

    AGK Super duper pooper scooper Administrator

    Good looking bitch.
     
  13. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

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  14. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

  15. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    WHY YOU THINK?
     
  16. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Thanks and respect to ABK for this....

    Past, present & future ...

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [81628] :: LONZO'S BLACK FRIDAY

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [2021] :: LONZO'S MIKE (2XW)

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [7] :: ADAMS' ZEBO (7XW)

    ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [3036] :: BREWER'S VINDICATOR

    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=16891

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  17. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Just to be clear.. I'm not a Zebo, Vindicator, Rosie fan.. I don't own Lonzo dogs anymore and wouldn't know where to find working versions of that blood now.. All I'm saying is Lonzo bred 'real bulldogs'.. Once told me he schooled one into McGee's Panther and picked up in 4 mins to save it's life.. No disgrace there since Panther was 50% Lonzo anyway.
     
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  18. c_note

    c_note CH Dog

    If she worked how she looked, SHIT
     
  19. oldguy

    oldguy CH Dog

    Haha! OK man! Elvis has left the building:))
     
  20. Blackpoison

    Blackpoison CH Dog

    any pix from ones had ?
     

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