What goes around, comes around.....

Where do you ignorant people come from? No where do you see me comparing anyone to anyone! And that Banjo & BB Red line has produced way more winners than you are trying to compare. And Meek Mills Sire was from an all [] litter! Where your Bulldogs or solid family of?

 

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Titere 8xw, Panthro Jr 2xw 2L , Maximo 1xw retired do to loss of hardware, Guillermo 1xw , Buster 1xw. Let's talk overall family production Asia Girl was a producing ass bitch but most of her offspring were ruined, she was also bred to Ch.Ninja who history shown us he didn't produce well but she threw bulldogs. Most people are quick to try and knock Titere as fluke but his family is solid as any out there, Panthro was arguably the best Boomer son. But what do I know ? Titere is back home now being bred to the bitches around and he has race winners. Tango had a Gr Ch sister who lost her title to Ch.Ruby , to call Tango into question is kinda crazy seeing how he's off the ROM Gr.Ch Awesome Beast, he threw many a great dog. Just my ramblings for the night

 

I forgot Ch.Reno who beat ex Gr.Ch Texas for his title, then there's Ch.Maxi. I look as a family as whole and the performance & production is there. I strongly believe had Panthro stayed stateside he would of made ROM. There's Tego 1xw 1gl who lost game to Ch.Big Boy. Yis Ole Man

 

lmao, is it a full moon or were you let out on a weekend pass ? Honestly you are out to lunch. I also can't believe you turned your caps lock on in reply to poor EP...lets keep it all friendly people, no need to start using capitals.

 

I know nothing about neither hound, I was only suggesting some guidelines that anyone can use to determine if they want to use new blood in their program. I suggested if someone was interested in the hounds GD used as his examples, that they use those guidelines. Some people can't comprehend what they read so they are led to draw conclusions and ASSume or make up shit cause they feel you are not agreeing with them.
Racedog THANKS for doing your research & showing all by example what I was stating,obviously you understood what I was stating in my initial post and saw that I was not making a negative comment on either of those hounds!

 

Alot of people don't know about the other dogs and its understandable considering they are being outshined by a 8xw. I didn't take offence

 

Heater's family falls shy.....EP...say it aint so?!

K.H kept his family to standard and they have many W's & his family as well as a few other still have the blood intact today.

Drea has been known to be around a good one or two and knows that family in & out. Not to mention being a very close companion to one of the most active dogmen in our modern era. Them dogs been competitive since the 90's out west. Most were kept private if not within a very small circle.

Coy himself was on a vacation for while and those dogs were either scattered or not kept right. Those who had them kept them close, but I'm more than sure they'll be coming back around....lol.

Also I can think of a big loss in ID that made a major dent on that family. Bred a bit different but based on some of the same stock. Not trying to pull of a scab, my respects to those whom were friends with those I mentioned. As I know there are some here.

Dead Rabbit I'll take one of them Meathead pups that are on the ground if your buddy down south will come off of one....lol.

 

Awesome beast/ tango/ ol school... Looks like there is production here! Tango has some good ones on the ground but like any other line they are not all good.
Panthro is putting them on the ground and titre has some coming of age.

IMO the men behind the dog make the athlete. Obviously some have more talent then others but it's brought out by the conditioners.

 

The amount of half and full sibling winners to Tango speaks for itself. Carabina won lost to the better dog Ruby her 6th time out. Ruby was a damn good bitch. Funny enough the same people that were around Ruby are around Titere. Bean has that old hag Fury, Rubys half sister. Pantro Jr had what I thought it took to win 3. Youre right about a lot of those dogs off Asia being in the wrong hands. F2F still has dogs from that same family that produced Titere that are good looking dogs.

The point that was made about needing to know the family of dogs you're getting into/breeding into was correct. Too many times people get hyped off pedigrees full of winning dogs but if you look closer at the pedigree you'll see dogs that only threw a good litter in a certain breeding or winners that threw low percentages and only the freaks were getting bred. Then you're left with dogs who throw their family's averages which is trash. And you've got a dog "bred to produce" that can't get a win.

 

Titere has winners out, he just had a very long career. There's more that are coming age so the future is looking very good.

 

His stud career is still very young a lot of his offspring have to be just now of age. We went to breed to Titi 3 or 4 years ago and they already had a litter on the ground off him. Not many were breeding to him early on a lot of people missed out there. I think the stud was $500 at the time and Solo said you better get on board quick.

 

Titere was a stud for free for a little while. The dogs that are of age are as good as any

 

Nice post Naus

 

Since Banjo & BB Red, please share some out of that family, pure such as heater that are of the ace calibre of titere or tango???

I have heard good stuff about that hughes family as well as the martinez line from truck etc...
But the family in the swamps that have had that line for along time and is the most culled unpeddeled of that ol cajun blood...

None compare to Banjo, BB Red or the compared titere and tango...
Once agian, HOW DO YOU COMPARE A CHAMPION TO A GRANDCHAMPION???

 

Stop breeding for a moment silly rabbit and read your own post...
You wrote this??? and wonder why you get shotdown, amping up yourself agianst Titere and Tango shows your BULLDOG I.Q....
NOW BACK PEDDLE...

 

There's alot of misinformation out about certain things but that's the way the BullDog world goes. Titere is gone from U.S. soil now to be family bred, there' s very little of the LA Enna blood state side. We have Titere half sister and plan to family breed , there has been alot of people who have taken a lot credit they did not deserve. It's easy to take great dogs and win one or two and take all the credit, its a real dogmen who build their own from the ground up. Fury is Brickhouse dog along with Ruby, things aren't always what they seem. Yis Ole Man

 

He also posted on another thread that he feels the best bloodline of today is Rascal or Rascal crosses. While there are some good Rascal dogs out there this is just a comical comment. From what I can gather he seems to be a bulldog collector and buys another mans hard work and then make posts asking what to breed them to.

 

You are one ignorant individual GD! I've never brought a dog in over 20 years! Majority of my yard & winners were bred & raised by me. The few others were given to my yard cause their breeders know we don't peddle!
And my opinion is that RASCAL,Stompanato, Oso Nego, Bowlings Loner ,& Gr.ch.Pedro,Ch.Hatchet, Big Casey and their crosses are the better line of dogs overseas & instate! I am untitled to my opinion as you are to yours.

 

Man you read it and know where are my feelings hurt. You the one that acts uneducated and can't comprehend in black & white.
How come Pharmer & Naustroms can understand completely what I stated & can contributed knowledge to the Topic , while you still bicker with me making irrelevant statements to shit you made up only in your head?