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Who Here Has Successfully Inbred Their Dogs?

Discussion in 'Breeder Discussion' started by bounty, Apr 16, 2013.

  1. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

    Who Here Has Successfully Inbred Their Dogs? When i say successfully i mean the offspring are close to as good as the parents or even better, no major defects,
    And if you have had success with inbreeding how tight did you get before it went bad?
     
  2. Iron Mike

    Iron Mike CH Dog

    Me..........
     
  3. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Me too..... Lol but I've seen mofos screw it up a lot as well....
     
  4. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    I've seen a guy inbred brother to sister and have phenomenal results then inbred that phenomenal litter bro to sis and have shitty results.... But he was breeding all his dogs and not doin any culling
     
  5. SVKNLS

    SVKNLS Pup

    I've made one successful brother sister breeding,but even then skin problems were hard to contend with, but breeding 1/2 brother/sister have had great results without the problems.
     
  6. gh32

    gh32 CH Dog

    I have,here is one that is as good a female as I have ever had at this age and is practically as good as her mom now,so close it's hard to tell which is better actually http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=354887
     
  7. stinkrock

    stinkrock Top Dog

  8. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Here are a couple bred douwn from the same famely. Must ad that how closer you inbreed the more defects and lesser performance animals you get from inbred litters. some are real gems. also are the dogs your inbreeding on line are inbred themselfs!!. ore based on crosses. that makes a hell of a diferense as wel.
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=369905
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=98816
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=326352
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=17481
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=4399
     
  9. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

  10. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

    They some tight peds Limey. How many defective dogs or pups are you getting when you breed that tight?
    Are the good ones as good or better than the parents? Especially that Flakey bitch was there many good ones in that litter?

    i have got a brother sister breeding i done twice and got interesting results. for one, all the bitches were always bigger than the mom and the males were bigger than the dad. construction and health were ok but the only one i have left doesn't have the best air. His sister was a machine but snake got her before i bred her.

    I'm planning to do a few more brother sister plus some father daughter off my favourite dog. Just to see what happens...lol.
     
  11. bounty

    bounty Big Dog

    also how far can you go before it stuffs up on you? What i'm asking is what should i look out for? I would rather avoid breeding retards if i can...
     
  12. Kelticwarrior

    Kelticwarrior Top Dog

    The best producer I ever had was a severely inbred little Yellow Saloon doggy. She couldn't do anything much herself but when we crossed her out she produced some really great working dogs. Unfortunately she didn't produce many due to a problem with delivering but those that she did throw turned out to be A grade group 1 working dogs.
     
  13. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    Yes they are/where Tightbred inbred dogs. the Flakey bitch was not realy up to standards,altho her event may sirguest otherwize. and her littermate sister Beauty was a game plug with a hell of a undershot.. Dogs like Magic/red bulll and king gator did sufer from inbred defects(not in there confermation departmend nor work load). wich was the rezen to look for a cross back then. Red bull has one testicel and at age 14 is still kicking and producing!!.. king gator was a midium joker game dog . most of these dogs must be seen as producers. but some of them have it all. magic was without a shadow of a doubt the best dog to come out of this particulair famely ,but as it is he divelopt a gronicel food path diseas . where his feet would swel up and lost blood tru tiny little holles. it was uncureble. he was put to sleep age 7 !!!. he was fisical the strongest dog i have ever seen and you/vet could NOT put a needle in him but underneath the skin!! thats how hard his muscle tone was al over his body. when breeding this tight you need to look for the inbred de genration that lures below the sirfis. like i discribed above ,some of them are metaly retarted and show weard behavier. Tiny little signs wil tell you when to stop. Also to many people fall into the pure trap. They start to breed pure ore inbreed for no aperend rezen!!. and shoot past there goal. as soon as you loose Hybrid viger. and see these little inbred problems pop up. do NOT inbreed
    them again as you dubble up on that stuf.
    One thing to those dogs pedegrees shown above was supurb producers..
     
  14. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Any i have seen comeing down from ur breeding limey,i have to say were very strong in structure,,like a-lot of gh dogs of alligator;etc;etc;...that's why i like em;;as for 1 testicle,thats why they give ya 2...lol..lol.....did you ever have much prob's with bad mothers,,the one's i seen were very good mothers......?????????
     
  15. Limey kennels

    Limey kennels CH Dog

    BleuBull Yes most where build like solid shit brick houses,But the females do tent to get finer bones when you inbreed this way. as for good mothers. al of them where good mothers. having said that we where always on top of the litters!and left no room for the bitches to screw up.. also we had a couple of bitches that would trow up there feed for there pups like wild dogs do.. resendly we bought one of G.H fines tightbred bitches Miss Dalotta sister to RAce Horse Haines. to ad some hybrid viger and bone. she and her littermate is acording to GH and other dogman the tightest Aligator bred .ONLINE PEDIGREES :: [457979] :: LIMEY & SIRIUSKENNELS 2013 altho this planned breeding looks like a cross at first sight it is very heavy line breeding douwn the road. Both parend dogs from this planned breeding, have no tea spoon of shit in there peds. with that i mean without the modern bleu zillion bred mumbo jumbo populair bloodlines in them. just good old solid stock.. but anuway lets not make it a LK topic. plenty of other folks with other dogs that have other ecsperienses inbreeding dogs..
     
  16. Epona

    Epona Banned

  17. BLUE8BULL

    BLUE8BULL CH Dog

    Real nice lk...thanks.....and yes there is a-lot more,in-bred lines doing well...best of luck...with em.....
     
  18. Mashamplan

    Mashamplan Big Dog

    Not to digress from the topic , but how was she bred? Im a big fan of that old school blood here and have a pretty inbred bitch thats bred off 3 different Gr.Ch. PW kids and has his littersister Swartneus 2xw winner close up as well as their bro Ch. Sledge (75% similar breeding to them, off the same sire and their dam's mom, Mad Maggie).
    She's off Payday's Panas (Scorpio's Snorman 1xw x Ch. Payday's Bakkies) x Payday's Siembamba (Ch. Pastor's Popeye x Ch. Payday's Bakkies). Snorman was off Gr.Ch. PW x Scorpio's Thandi (Ch. Sledge x Carmen) and Ch. Popeye and Ch. Bakkies were littermates off Scorpio's Jaklas 2xw 1xgl x BBK's Lee Lee. Jaklas and Lee Lee were both off Gr.Ch. PW.
     
  19. The Saint

    The Saint Big Dog

    Did this breeding more than a decade ago. A litter of bulldogs with no defects at all.
    SA APBT Database
    Some acquaintances have dogs bred 17 times on that Junior dog in this ped showing no defects or loss of vitality or mouth at all.
     
  20. The Saint

    The Saint Big Dog

    I guess it all depends on what family of dogs you're dealing with. I've seen people inbreeding with these Junior dogs not losing anything, yet seen guys trying the same with Stonewall dogs and have physical defects like webbed feet etc.
     

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