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Your opinions on BANDOGS?

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by KingOfHearts, Sep 3, 2020.

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Bandogs?

  1. The real deal!

    6 vote(s)
    37.5%
  2. Absolute trash!

    4 vote(s)
    25.0%
  3. Don't know, don't care!

    6 vote(s)
    37.5%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. What is your opinion on BANDOGS? For example this tan bandog named Bando that got killed by the white mutt. It is video taken by the owner of Bando who calls himself BANDO 4 LIFE on youtube.

    He claims to have gamebred pitbull and Neapolitan mastiff mix dogs.

    I have thought they were just mutts and you have to go through loads of them to get a decent contender
     
  2. mccoypitbulls

    mccoypitbulls Underdog

    Bandogs area a protective cross. Many use larger mastiff type and smaller game bred types in their crosses and take them to f4 typically but some go further.
    They are too large for my liking but they do have a purpose.
    I do t think that white dog killed anything. To be honest that fog Bando seems to have done his job(stopping some random cur that may have came up to harm it or his master)
    This seems fishy and almost as if some feelings may be Involved. I use YouTube also and k ow many of the frequent posters of dog content. Sure beats The media and the BS on tV.

    Anyway. Can you explain how you come to your conclusion about this YouTube content?
     
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  3. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    They can be great dogs but should be reserved for people with a boat load of working dog experience.

    The end goal is to add the pit bull for all of its athleticism and drive to the mass of a mollosser bred dog who carries the defensive traits, such as protection and territorial issues.

    But, let's call it collateral damage, or maybe the side effects of the cross, is that most end up with a a defensively driven, weak nerved monster of a dog that has athleticism and the prey drive to make most anything stop moving, which includes children.

    Tons of these crosses are affectionately called 'kid-killers'.

    When I was in the bite work scene for a little bit I seen some that were completely awesome as physical specimens and they served the purpose to which they were bred as well as any other dog on the planet (beagles to hunt, bull dogs to fight, shephards to herd). This would be the dog to have on your side of your front door when the bad guy came knocking.

    But like most good things that can go bad, they gained in popularity and in time the lesser specimens were making there way into hands of John Q. Public, who had no business with a poodle much less a athletic monster of a dog with the desire to chase and make something stop moving.

    So I am a big fan when they are in the right hands but when they are not, I cringe.

    Mostly because when they do bite, they become a pit bull in the eyes of the media.

    S
     
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  4. Philippe

    Philippe Pup

    I agree with the above - Bandogges, when bred for the right reasons, and owned by a capable handler, are one of the most capable breed types when it comes to man-work... I have owned four in my life and all were great capable animals who were a joy to live with.

    The fact of the matter however, is that in large part what made the Bandogge fantastic does not exist in the Western world much anymore - That being a WORKING Mastiff component. And furthermore, a working AB is everything a good Bandogge wants to be - And on top of it comes from a more organized (Just, but still) genetic pool.

    And I totally agree that when a Bandogge nails someone for the wrong reasons, everyone screams Pit Bull - And the way law has been interpreted in many places - A Bandogge by type and function fts perfectly into the "Pit Bull Type" - Hell my wife got into a screaming match with a vet last week that my AB Bitch was not s "game bred apbt"... Yiou think a Bandog would have been different? I can guarantee Voodoo would not have gotten a warmer reaction.

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Agree with the AB comment.

    And totally agree on the difficulty of finding a working mastiff type dog/mollosser bred. The overwhelming majority have been bred as show dogs/conformation dogs and another large percentage have been created to sell puppies. Both of those actions have crippled the breeds as far as their working ancestry.

    I had Fila Brasileiros for a stretch. They had a rich working history. I saw two catch hogs once and I just had to have one. I tracked down the mother of the dogs I had seen and she was a Brazilian import. I bought my first female off her from the sorriest piece of dog selling shit that ever walked the planet.

    She turned out to be a great dog but did not meet a lot of the show standards and was frowned upon by the fraternity. Hindsight being 20/20 I wish I had pursued man work/protection work with her because she had more prey drive and athleticism than any of the Filas I had experienced. She had ball drive like a pit bull or a Malinois which is just about unheard of in an adult Fila.

    I had another that had as much defensive drive/territorial issues than any dog I had seen. She was a liability in one sense but the absolute dog you want when the bad guy is at the door. I truly believe she would have killed a grown man, or woman if they burst into our house.

    Breeding either of these two to a prey driven bulldog or Malinois would have created monsters and in the wrong hands, kid killers. (shitty phrase but it gets to the point)

    If I were doing man work, all things considered, and having that love of the bulldog, I would gravitate to an AB.

    S
     
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  6. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

    Your go to if you need a property guarding dog, most other mastiffs have gotten crappy and lost their drive to do anything.
     
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  7. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    No need for them a American Bulldog can do anything a bandog can do and some as far as I am concerned.
     
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  8. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed. The AB can cover just about anything they have to offer with the exception of maybe size.

    The cross cuts down on some of their girth but still leaves them 100+.

    Most AB's doing serious work do not tip the scales that high.

    End of the day the 20-30bs does not mean that much, but when you see a big AB you that, "Man, that is a big dog". When you see one of those Bandogs you say, "Damn!, that is a big dog"

    A hair bit of difference.

    US1
     
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  9. ben brockton

    ben brockton CH Dog

    The guy on the right looks just like Robert Trujillo from suicidal tendencies lmfao
     
  10. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    A Male American Bulldog can be in great condition at 80lbs + that's enough dog for most task's I would say.
     
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  11. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Absolutely. For me 80lbs is a massive dog.

    I have had an 85lb AB on the sleeve and I can hold him out as he works and supported most of his weight with my arm. With the dogs over 100lbs I can't do that. Whether they are using their body weight with purpose or just taking advantage of the earth's gravitational pull, they pull you down.

    Most defensively drive dogs will bite at the face (fear biters to boot). So when the handler or bad guy gets pulled down closer to their height and they re-grip, it is usually to the face.

    If anyone has ever put on a football helmet, felt that hot stinking breath on their face and looked just past a huge set of fangs and see the tonsils of a 120lb dog there is a certain understanding.

    I'm a little dog guy. For me big dogs start at 46lbs and up. My Filas were behemoths in that regard.

    And any dog, regardless of size, will provide tons of home security to the would be thief, only if they can hear them bark. But if they see them, the bigger the dog the more the deterrent and the blacker the dog the more of a deterrent.

    I agree the 80lb working AB maybe as close to the perfect 'do anything dog' that is out there but these bandogs in the right hands can serve their purpose as well. Just not my cup of tea.

    S
     
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  12. I agree...80lbs is to much dog for most humans.even a 60 lb APBT is fckn huge in my eyes.
    120 lbs APBT mastiff cross?fck that!..to much dog for me that is.
    great if your fighting a war and you need a human being killer on the frount line.not so great for sitting on a couch.
    there are better breeds to be used as gard dogs.none quite as scary i admit,but there is better more managble breeds out there.
    dont get me wrong here as i love all breeds of dogs.its just them bandogs seem a little to un realistic in this day and age.
    two by me (pressa crosses)ate a mans head!
    now thats stress i can do with out lol.


    you throw a stick or ball for a bandog and you better watch out it dont bring you a body back lol.

    Haha all the best
     
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  13. Euro

    Euro Big Dog

  14. Yup them ones.....more black the ones ive seen....never seen one that blueish.

    You throw a ball for that and it will bring you a human back.
     
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  15. That dog in the wrong hands-is as bad as a gun.

    While im on the subject of guns-dont matter what garding breed youve got.
    if some one gonna get ya they gonna get ya...no dog can stop a bullet.they blood flesh and bones at the end of the day.
     
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  16. fck me that dog is a hell hound.
    ive no doubt there was dogs that looked like that thousands of years ago.
    sort of dogs that marched into battle with there warrior owners.
     
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  17. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    Agreed, they can be monsters. I had Fila Brasileiros. I had a 150lb female that would kill a grown man. Not a doubt in my mind. She was not all that athletic.

    I had another female that had the agility and athleticism of a dog half her size.

    My buddy had a male that was 170lb and could not walk to the mail box without a nice ten minute nap.

    My wife had a 180lb male that would load up and leave with you although his pedigree said he would defend our home til the end.

    Just like bull dogs they are not all bulldogs. LOL

    S
     
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  18. It actually offends me that you compare that piece of shit to the REAL ancient battle dogs. You and the Euro guy be greenhorns.
     
  19. Box Bulldog

    Box Bulldog Top Dog

    And you Sir are a douche bag! Who you think you are? Join here today and talk to people like that. Give you head a shake next time you type.
     
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  20. Might not be as good as the old battle dogs...but the results the same.that is if i threw you to that dog it would eat you.

    Imo pedos like you need feeding to bandogs.
     
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