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Forced Breed Extinction...Great Read!

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by screamin'eagle, Sep 10, 2007.

  1. <TABLE width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD width="92%">[font=arial,helvetica]Forced Breed Extinction

    It was with great sadness and great outrage, that we read and article on the forced extinction of certain breeds of dogs. Why, when we fight so hard to preserve species that are naturally, or due to man's interference becoming extinct, do we allow the forced extinction of man's best friend. It is man's greed and vanity that has placed God's creatures in this perilous state and it is man in his self-righteous arrogance, that deems himself worthy to decide who should live and who should not. Some of the so-called undesirables on this list of dogs include the Pit Bull, the American Bull Terrier, the Kuvas, the Filo Brasiliero, the Rhodesian Ridgeback just to name a few. Certain countries including Germany, Holland and Britain have passed legislation requiring all litters to be registered and all pups to be neutered so as to move towards the permanent extinction of these breeds. In North America, government is already discussing the possible ban of "protection dog" breeds being owned by family or regular civilians. These dogs include the German Shepherd's Dog, the Rottweiler, the Doberman, the Malinois, the Dutch Shepherd's Dog etc. I have no doubt that these well-loved and dedicated animals will soon join the above on the forced extinction list.Call to mind the German Shepherd's Dog, protector of hearth and home, guardian of children and flock. World renowned for his use in war efforts as sentry dog, scout dog, tracker dog and medic dog. Well known and utilized the world over as Rescue K-9, Therapy K-9, Assistance dog for the disabled, blind and deaf. Used extensively in narcotics detection, weapons detection, explosives detection, environmental detection and criminal apprehension. A dog of unquestioning loyalty, intelligence and devotion. Now imagine a world without this dog.

    It is time for those who know to take a stand and for those who don't to wake up and smell the coffee. Every time government legislates something we loose another little freedom. The outbreak of dog bites today is man's fault not dogs. Weak people, weak breeders, weak handlers and weak parents have created the situation that exists today. If I as a child had gone up to a strange dog and been snapped at, I would have been disciplined by my parents for approaching a strange dog. This doesn't mean that dogs should snap at everything but it means people need to be more responsible with themselves and their children. If a dog growls at a child, the dog should be corrected for growling, the child should be disciplined for teasing the dog and both the handler and the parents must be aware of that which they are responsible for.

    Weak and undisciplined breeders have caused an influx of weak nerved, brain dead dogs. Miss-informed trainers teach the miss-informed public. People come to us to have their dogs trained for protection work. They apply themselves with diligence to the part where the dog bites. NO ONE wants to do tracking or obedience under stress. No one wants to apply a correction to their dog if they move out of position in obedience work. We are affectionate to our dogs, we praise our dogs when they do well, but if you ask your dog to do a command, which he fully understands and he refuses, he must be corrected. If you are not in control of your dog, you are out of control.

    When we have people here for training we often go off-site and are always witness to undisciplined dogs with undisciplined handlers in an undisciplined public. On one occasion we stopped outside a coffee shop for a break and sat outside the store with two German Shepherds and one Malinois. The dogs were all placed in a down stay. Two young people in their twenties walked out and upon seeing the dogs began pushing each other into the dogs and yelling, "look they're going to bite you". Our dogs simply looked at them and stayed in position. Had the dogs perceived a threat and alerted on these people, they would have been deemed vicious animals. Another time we went into a large pet store where our dogs walked at fuss and behaved in a mannerly fashion. Another women had two Australian Cattle dogs, one young and one older dog, dragging her through the store and lashing out non-stop at every animal they saw. The young dog learned this poor behavior from the older dog. At no time did this woman correct her dogs, she simply dragged them to another aisle where they were not able to see other dogs. If these dogs break free of her and attack another dog or, a child, it is not the dogs' fault but the handlers.

    Many of you may not like the breeds you see on the list, but they have received a bad wrap due to poor handling, poor breeding and irresponsible ownership. The Pit Bull is an excellent example. These dogs are not naturally people aggressive they are animal aggressive and if they are well socialized around animals, as with any other dog, they are solid around other animals. The owner and trainer of a Pit Bull make it people aggressive or animal aggressive. Brain dead people make brain dead dogs. Certain breeds have inherent breed characteristics. If you don't want an animal aggressive dog, don't buy a breed used to hunt large game and always socialize your dog well around other animals. If you don't want a protective dog, don't buy a herding or otherwise protective breed. If you just want a pet, then please, buy a lap dog, remembering that many of the small lap breeds are nippy.

    Don't allow your dogs to run at large, especially if you have no off- lead control. Don't feel it is your right or your child's right to pet a stranger's dog. You wouldn't like it if a stranger hugged your child, we don't like it when you, without permission, pet our dogs. If you want to pet a dog, buy your own, and for God's sake accept the responsibility that goes with it.

    In my opinion, we have permitted for far too long, the weak minded people in our society to pass laws, which rob us of our freedoms, among which are our freedoms to think and make mistakes. It is time for us, who have stayed quiet for so long to stand up for our rights while we still have some. Orwell's 1984, where he speaks of a mindless society is not too far around the corner. We have permitted the very weak in our society to impose their distorted views in our schools, in our churches, in our public places, in our homes and now upon our dogs. The loss of a true companion and friend such as the dog will bring about the end to our freedoms. Responsibility cannot be legislated. Just take a look at what our world has become by letting these politicians and people make it into what they deem a better place. The Prozac they have given our children, they now tell us to give our dogs. We have to, if we are serious begin to stand up for the truth. The very people that breed weak, unstable dogs are the people that want to legislate and control our rights over dogs that are bred properly. Remember laws have no conscience, nor do they have a thought process. What once was passed to protect, is now passed to control. I hope sincerely, that this letter is read globally by those of us that believe our dogs, our homes, our families, our schools and our churches should be left untouched by the cancer that is rapidly growing in our once great country. I do not want, nor will I live in a world of weak, spineless individuals who through legislation and special interest groups want to destroy the norm, thus making their weakness and distorted view the norm.




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  2. What is happening around us is frightening because the pace of this madness is increasing. Innocent people that have large breeds are often looked upon as being criminal. The American Pit Bull Terrier was the first breed of dog to serve as a war dog for the United States of America in World War I. Of course many will say that was then, the world has changed, this is now. I will agree the world has changed and it is time to change it back. Back to the foundation of responsibility where our children learn to read and write in school, where our homes and families were our business and our responsibility. Where our churches were not afraid to preach the truth and our politicians were responsible and respectable individuals not criminals. A time when responsible people took responsibility for their actions and government legislation had nothing to do with our rights and privileges.... A time when government worked for us, the people. A time when we were not over-ridden by them..... A time when the inmates where not permitted to run the asylum.

    Rights and privileges such as owning a dog is the responsibility of the individual. If he proves he cannot own a dog, or parent a child, or drive a car, or own a firearm, then the law will decide on him as an individual not on the masses as it is being done today. We didn't move when they took away our right to raise our children responsibly. We didn't move when they took away our rights to protect ourselves. Perhaps we'll grumble now when they threaten to take away our best friend and guardian. If we don't then we will get exactly what we deserve. An unfortunately and sadly, noble breeds of service dogs will suffer and get what they don't deserve. Those weak ones who would bring us down to their level have created a world up side down, where people are afraid to be strong, afraid to be individuals, afraid to stand up for their beliefs. Soon even letters like this will be deemed to be unsuitable. We, in closing, anxiously await any and all replies to this letter and hope that as you reach down and pat the head of the noble creature that shares your life, that you will not permit this atrocity to go on any longer without confronting it. It is always harder to swim upstream, but the reward is the mountaintops and the river source.


    Written by Petra & Mike Mc Connery of The Dogmen Inc.​
     
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  3. Suki

    Suki Guest

    "Remember laws have no conscience, nor do they have a thought process. What once was passed to protect, is now passed to control".


    :( how very true...


    very interesting read. tx for posting it![​IMG]
     
  4. M Joubert

    M Joubert Pup

    Great read. Can I cross post this on other forums? If not could a link be provided so that I could post that instead? I would copy and paste the text of the OP only.
     
  5. koening

    koening Top Dog

    Great read and very true !
     
  6. Cross post this article as widely as possible. I am not sure about the original content...it was apparently an article in a magazine published by Dogmen Inc. and written by Mike McConnery (I believe his contact infi is available at www.mikethedogman.com). That being said I first saw it at http://www.doglegislationcouncilcanada.org/extinction.html , but I've also seen it cited on http://www.riospitbull.com/breeding_issues.htm , and several other sites.
     
  7. M Joubert

    M Joubert Pup

    Thanks, I will do.
     
  8. Phebes

    Phebes Guest

    Weak people, weak breeders, weak handlers and weak parents have created the situation that exists today. If I as a child had gone up to a strange dog and been snapped at, I would have been disciplined by my parents for approaching a strange dog. This doesn't mean that dogs should snap at everything but it means people need to be more responsible with themselves and their children. If a dog growls at a child, the dog should be corrected for growling, the child should be disciplined for teasing the dog and both the handler and the parents must be aware of that which they are responsible for.


    I see this first hand at adoption clinics. We have Apbts and Apbt mixes in crates, children run up put their hand in the crates up to the elbows. Parents say nothing. WTF! Here is the best part. After their kids have hand their hands in the crates for a few minutes they say something like this " Good looking dog what kind is it?" I say "It is a pit bull or a pit bull mix, we are a APBT rescue" OMG the sh!t hits the fan. They yell get your hands out of that cage or grab the kid and go storming off. I guess they think the threat happens once you know what breed of dog it is, as long as you don't know the dog will not rip the arm off the kid who is sticking his hand in the dogs mouth. Of course the same kids wouldn't think of putting their hands in the cages of the other resue groups because their dogs are barking and growling and acting like they all should be put down for bad temperment. But not ours, they are quiet, well behaved and sit wagging their tails. This is so strange no one ever notices how well behaved they are they just go off in huff when they find out what breed they are.
    People are morons and freaking sheep incapable of thinking for themselves.
    I guess if the media told them APBTs were wonderful family dogs they would then notice how well behaved they are.
    Sorry for the rant but it just breaks my heart. Such good dogs, such wonderful dogs and no one wants them.
     
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  9. Bullyson

    Bullyson CH Dog

    I heard it mentioned in a thread yesterday that we shouldnt bitch and whine about our country and our government right? That we are just belly aching when we say we are, or call someone else a "Sheep" but what in the hell do you call this? Now that the day of Genocide has come and gone, let me just say we ARE sheep. Like it or not. Accept it or dont. IT IS FACT. Free? Freedom? PLEASE. I live here and I love my country and MOST Americans but if you're not outraged by the way things are going, you're just not paying attention. People float through life acting like nothings wrong because IGNORANCE IS BLISS. The less you know the better right? COWARDS. Leave your children here to fight for something they had no idea was even coming because nobody taught them about it. Thats just brilliant. One city at a time, they will ban our dogs. They control everything we do from a far. You can get away with certain things for a while but dont think they're not watching. They have cameras that can watch you take a shit from space. "you people and your conspiracy theories" blah blah fuckin blah. It has an effect on you if you believe it or not. Get caught sleeping if you want to with your "Evrything is OK" attitude. God Bless America, God DAMN the mob who runs it. I may catch hell for posting this but I dont care. If one person can see that I have a valid point, thats all that matters. It goes far beyond our APBTs. :(
     
  10. miakoda

    miakoda GRCH Dog

    That was a good post. I'm not against people being outraged at the goings on within this nation, but I am against those people who do nothing but whine & complain and voice their opinions on the internet but do nothing about it! Get out from behind the keyboard, go out into the real world, and fight for what you believe in! Make your voice heard where it counts! Even if things don't change in your lifetime at least you can say you tried. Being a puss and only typing blogs on myspace and other forums doesn't count.

    I'm not against people not liking this country, but I am against them that spew hate about it yet have no problem sitting back and living off the government while the rest of us have to pay even higher taxes and even higher prices and work longer hours to be able to support them and their "right" to live the way they feel they deserve.
     
  11. coolhandjean

    coolhandjean CH Dog

    So true...Politicians have forgotten that they work for us, not the other way around, but the majority just take it, and are so apathetic, it's nerve-wrecking...It's time for a Revolution, if you ask me...I re-posted this many places...

    On a positive note, I was at the flea market the other day, and this family was walking past a tiny dog. The little boy went to go pet the dog, and the sister, who had to be maybe two years older, was like "no, you can't just pet anyone's dog." And let her brother away, I was pretty proud of that little girl, even though I don't know her. lol.
     
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  12. Searcy Jeff

    Searcy Jeff Top Dog

    I totally agree. Everyone who lives off the government that don't need to, are worst than vultures and leeches. Especially the ones who don't want to improve their way of life and blames it their environment. Nowadays, morals and ethics just don't exist anymore I guess.
     
  13. DryCreek

    DryCreek CH Dog

    I really enjoyed that, thank you so much for posting it.

    And Phebes

    That statement is so sadly true, yet it made me laugh. Thanks :p


    It's not just in America guys, we deal with the same type of shite up here. I was born in the city, grew up in the suburbs, and have been consistently moving farther away from civilization as time goes on. My sanity depends on it LOL.

    I'm not a conformer, never have been.

    What I do do though is talk to as many people as I can about the issues that concern me. If what I talk with them about makes enough of an impression, they may just talk to someone else about it, and so on. And I vote at every election we have. As long as we keep trying, there's always hope ;)
     
  14. Bullyson

    Bullyson CH Dog

    AMEN! Im more against people who collect a check at the 1st of the month who are perfectly capable of working than anything else. Everytime I cough up all that money knowing where its going makes me cringe. Ive been singing this song for years. Ive gotten a little more tolerable in my 30's but I was a handfull in my 20's. Ive stated my "Opinions" to thousands and thousands of people. I had a pretty big mouthpiece in the late 90's early 00's. I toured all over the country yelling this sh*t in peoples face...Im not a keyboard jockey :) ;)
     
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  15. chloesredboy

    chloesredboy CH Dog

    The whole subject of welfare only strengthens the argument that others were trying to present.Now dont get me wrong,I'm not Anti-American ,It just seems as though people are completley willing to turn their heads away from the corruption for what?A very false sense of security?I am just as disgusted as anyone with leeches who live off the system,But,Who allows them to live like that?Not me,I dont willingly give away half my paycheck so that some looser can buy better food than I can afford and drive a nicer car than I have.I'm not happy to provide pain medication to some junkie when I cant even afford to buy the medicine I need to live a normal life.No,I am forced to do these things.Forced by a corrupt system that cares about one thing and one thing only.Do they care that I cant buy my medicine?hell no.All they care about is that I make enough money that they can steal from me to pay for the social problems that they created themselves.I sure dont see any senators offering some of their obscenely large salaries to buy food for some lazy scum ,why should they when they can just take my hard earned money and to hell with me if I can only afford bologna after buying the damn leeches a steak dinner.And as far as the idea if you dont like it move,Almost every other country requires you to have a reason for wanting to live there,They dont let everyone in the free world in to deplete every resource they have.Its not as easy as saying I want to move to England and your set to go.So everyone who believes in these "Conspiracy theories" are not Anti American terrorist.Most are real ,honest Americans who are just tired of being exploited and screwed by the very government that they are expected to lay down their very lives for if need be.No one is expecting you to hate America ,just ask questions and be aware.When You are unaware is when they can get by with unjust and unconstitutional nonesense ,like for example BSL.
     
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  16. Phebes

    Phebes Guest

    Here is something to think about.

    Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 14:10:39 -0500
    We know Dick Lamm as the former
    Governor of Colorado. In that context his
    thoughts are particularly poignant. Last
    week there was an immigration
    overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of
    America's finest minds and leaders.
    A brilliant college professor by the
    name of Victor Davis Hanson talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia,"
    explaining
    how immigration - both legal and illegal
    was destroying the entire state of
    California. He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all
    vestiges
    of The American Dream.

    Moments later, former Color ado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a
    stunning speech on how to destroy
    America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the
    destruction of the United States. He said,
    "If you believe that America is too smug,
    too self-satisfied, too rich, then
    let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has
    survived the ravages of time. Arnold
    Toynbee observed that all great
    civilizations rise and fall and that 'An
    autopsy of history would show that
    all great nations commit suicide.'"

    "Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First to destroy America, turn America
    into a
    bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural
    country." History shows that no nation
    can survive the tension, conflict, and
    antagonism of two or more competing
    languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual;
    however, it
    is a curse for a society to be
    bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The
    histories of bilingual and bi-cultural
    societies that do not assimilate are
    histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and
    Lebanon all face crises of national
    existence in which minorities press for
    autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria
    suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France
    faces difficulties with Basques,
    Bretons, and Corsicans."

    Lamm went on: Second, to destroy
    America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and
    encourage immigrants to maintain their
    culture, Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal..that
    there are no
    cultural differences. Make it an article of
    faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout
    rates are due solely to prejudice and
    discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

    Third, "We could make the United States a 'Hispanic Quebec' without much
    effort. The key is to celebrate diversity
    rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz
    said in the Atlantic Monthly recently:
    "The apparent success of our own multi ethnic and multicultural
    experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony.
    Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it
    meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism
    to hold us together."
    Lamm said, "I would encourage all
    immigrants to keep their own language
    and culture. I would replace the melting
    pot metaphor with the salad bowl
    metaphor. It is important to ensure that
    we have various cultural subgroups
    living in America enforcing their
    differences rather than as Americans,
    emphasizing their similarities."

    "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least
    educated. I would add a second underclass,
    unassimilated, undereducated, and
    antagonistic to our population. I would
    have this second underclass have a
    50% dropout rate from high school."

    "My fifth point for destroying America
    would be to get big foundations and
    business to give these efforts lots of
    money. I would invest in ethnic
    identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all
    minorities to
    think that their lack of success was the
    fault of the majority. I would start a
    grievance industry blaming all minority
    failure on the majority population."

    "My sixth plan for America's downfall
    would include dual citizenship, and
    promote divided loyalties. I would
    celebrate diversity over unity. I would
    stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are
    mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when! they ar e not killing
    each other. A diverse,
    peaceful, or stable society is
    against most historical precedent. People
    undervalue the unity it takes to keep a
    nation together. Look at the ancient
    Greeks. The Greeks believed that they
    belonged to the same race; they
    possessed a common Language and
    literature; and they worshiped the same
    gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games. A common enemy, Persia,
    threatened their liberty. Yet all these
    bonds were not strong enough to
    overcome two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that
    nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.
    "E. Pluribus Unum" --From many,
    one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus'
    instead of the
    'Unum,' we will balkanize America.

    "Next to last, I would place all subjects
    off limits; make it taboo to talk about
    anything against the cult of 'diversity.'
    I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in
    the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words
    like 'racist' or 'xenophobe' halt discussion and
    debate. Having made America a
    bilingual/bicultural country, having
    established multi-culturism, having the
    large foundations fund the doctrine of
    'Victimology,' I would next make it
    impossible to enforce our immigration
    laws. I would develop a mantra: That
    because immigration has been good for
    America, it must always be good. I
    would make every individual immigrant
    symmetric and ignore the cumulative
    impact of millions of them."

    In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound
    silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly,
    I would censor Victor Davis Hanson's
    book "Mexifornia." His book is
    dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America
    deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

    There was no applause. A chilling fear
    quietly rose like an ominous cloud
    above every attendee at the conference.
    Every American in that room knew
    that everything Lamm enumerated was
    proceeding methodically, quietly,
    darkly, yet pervasively across the United States today. Discussion is being
    suppressed. Over 100 languages are
    ripping the foundation of our educational
    system and national cohesiveness. Even
    barbaric cultures that practice female
    genital mutilation are growing as we
    celebrate 'diversity.' American
    jobs are vanishing into the Third World as corporations create a Third World
    in America -take note of California and
    other states - to date, ten million illegal
    aliens and growing fast. It is reminiscent
    of George Orwell's book "1984."
    In that story, three slogans are engraved
    in the Ministry of Truth building:
    "War is peace," "Freedom is slavery,"
    and "Ignorance is strength."

    Governor Lamm walked back to his seat.
    It dawned on everyone at the conference
    that our nation and the future of this great
    democracy are deeply in trouble and
    worsening fast. If we don't get this
    immigration monster stopped within three years, it will rage like a
    California wildfire and destroy everything in its path
    especially The American Dream.

    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do, than by the ones you did do"
    _________________
     
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  17. dued

    dued Pup

    There are some really good posts in here.

    I honestly believe that the un-enforcement of our borders is a a huge step towards amnesty. I'm expecting that whomever is in office at the time will say, "oh we have all of these people here, we can't just kick them out." and grant amnesty to whoever that wants it.

    I believe that after that happens, the next step would be the merger of Canada, the United States, and Mexico, because, "hey, there already here in huge numbers, why not?" "It will be good for the economy, etc."

    Look up NAFTA, the NAFTA super highway, North American Union if you haven't already heard of this stuff.
     
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    Bullyson CH Dog

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