need help

it seems hard to find a well respected kennel in upstate new york. i would appreciate any information regarding this. im looking for a well bred black coloured female and it just isnt happening. im affraid my male will be old by the time i find something . thank you all.

 

Re read your post again amd you'll see why you got the response you did... I'm looking for a black coloured female and it just isn't happening. I'm afraid my male will be a year old by the time i find something first off your looking for a certain colored dog (don't breed for color alone) second of all your saying your going to breed your dog at 1 yr old ( that's not a good thing ) would you let your 7 yr old child have kids? I don't think so

 

no due respect mr.marty if i want a certain coloured dog because it appeals to my eye and my eyes alone what is the problem with that. where in that post does it say that im going to breed my dog at a year old. it states my puppy will be a year by the time i find a companion for him. sorry for the confusion. but sometimes people on here assume way to much, and just attack people using their little insults usually consisting of a four letter word or retard. i wonder how these people treat their dogs.

 

You are going to be breeding a dog that is too young, first of all. We preach all the time about you do not breed for color. For gameness not for color. The pound is full of APBT as it is. Don't need a whole litter of black dogs in the pound. It is just as bad trying to breed blue dogs.....

 

i dont know if you fail to read my posts because you think im stupid or something. I AM NOT GOING TO BREED MY DOGS AT A YEAR I MAY NEVER BREED THEM AT ALL I AM LOOKING FOR A BLACK FEMALE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IS A NICE COLOUR I DO NOT CARE ABOUT BREEDING SORRY IF YOU JUMP TO THAT CONCLUSION OK. my male needs a companion im looking for a black one plain and simple. oh and if i had a litter it sure as hell wouldnt end up in the pound. I guess since i get so much grief here i will just continue my search solo this has so benefit for anybody and this thread should be closed.

 

Whats wrong with you being the dogs companion? these dogs are Animal aggressive, and do not need/want a companion... they thrive on human affection not another dog.

If I was wrong with your post, I apologise

 

a dog is what you make of it. animal agressive or not. a companion is just another stride at socialization. and i dont know about you but seeing two americans play just shows the rest of the world that my dogs behave enough to share each others company,plus its just adorable. i have always had two dogs and plan on keeping it that way.

 

No need to be so sensitive, besided the first reply its all love. We work hard for these dogs an take it personal when we think someone is doing something in error. It's not against you but just love for the breed.....

 

im sure you could find a black female at the pound.....if you really need two dogs
Drew

 

i do right by the breed. ive been devoted for a long time now. its not every day i get accused of puppy milling practices you know what im saying?

 

id prefer a puppy with some kind of registration thank you though rosco

 

I just hope you don't feel too let down when your two loving playful companions decide they wanna lay their teeth into each other. Not saying it's impossible for these dogs to get along with each other, just be prepared to break up fights and don't ever let them interact unsupervised. So, you want a pedigreed dog....are you planning to show them or get into sports like weight pull? If not I would strongly advise that you just get a pet quality dog that looks and acts the way you want and have both your dogs fixed.

 

How long have you been around the breed? It's going to be difficult getting a dog from a reputable APBT breeder if you can't accept the fact or responsibly own a pit bull thinking that there is no possibility that he may be dog aggressive. I'm not just being judgemental here, either, I got my 2 with the same idea in mind. My older male is DA and the other one is not. They can live together peacefully most of the time, but they can NOT be in an excited situation together and they can NOT be left unsupervised together.

As far as the color thing, I don't see a problem with preferring a certain color for a pet. But pets don't need registration, so why does this dog? Do you plan on competing or participating in shows with your dogs?

Also, the first dog, where'd he come from? If you already have a good relationship with his breeder, I'd say that's the best place to look for advice on the topic, especially if they area reputable breeder.

 

First, what are your plans for another pup? You mentioned it being registered....do you plan on participating in conformation shows? weight pulls? obedience trials? I'm just trying to get an idea of what you are truly looking for in a dog besides color.

There is nothing wrong with liking a particular color of dog. However, picking out a pup based on color should only be done once you have found the desired litter from an honest, reputable owner/breeder. Color is just an appearance issue. And it's what's on the inside that truly counts. So do some research and find owner/breeders who have the dogs with the characteristics you really want, and then once it's narrowed down to a specific litter, then choose your pup based on color.

However, I am concerned that you seem to be wanting another pup strictly as a playmate for the dog you already own. And no matter the breed, this is not a good idea....but especially for the "pit bull" breeds. Dog aggression (DA) runs strong in these breeds. No, not every dog is DA, but many go a few years before it really kicks in and at that point it's too late to say, "I told you so." You should want a dog to be YOUR companion and not worry about whether or not it can play nice with your other dog. If they get along, great (although NEVER ever ever leave them unattended together....even if you are ust cooking dinner in the other room), but if they don't, so what.

 

ive had 6 dogs to this point never had a serious fight. a pedigreed dog is more likely i do not want to get my dogs fixed. i enjoy adba sponsored events. i dont know what kind of dogs all of you have but mine go everywhere i go and they tend to be well behaved anyway i appreciate all the comments didnt forsee all this buzz. thank you

 

i could go get a dog tomorrow if i wanted to i wanted to spend a little extra on dog this time around. so i was as you say looking for a true kennel. new york state is run down. people that sell these dogs have no pedigree to back up claims for these dogs. i was looking for a large well known kennel in new york state i have looked and looked. im not interested in staffordshire muts, or anything to gangster that most of the big kennels in this state ive found produce. dogs are pack animals, all dogs are trainable, and should be given a chance to get along. i may breed these animals in the future at the proper time which i have done in the past. the breeder i have gotten dogs from in the past that i trust ,he has ferriera dogs, has stopped producing. so really what im looking for here is just what i posted.

 

Jeez.......

So.....you're looking for real deal bulldogs. And don't accept that they can be raised in a structured, socialized, and healthy lifestyle and still be dog aggressive. Training is one thing, but genetics is another. Dog aggression is only managable, there is no cure. That's all just Cesar Milan bullpoop.

 

Oy vey. If I only had a dime for every time I heard this crap.

Dog aggression (DA) can not be trained out of a pit bull. At best it can be managed, but it will never be elminated.

And "raising them right" (gag) isn't going to cut it either. That's nothing but an old wives' tale. I tried that right raising & heavy socialization thing w/ my first few dogs & guess what? When my dogs turned two, I almost ended up w/ four dead dogs b/c they "turned on" & tried to kill each other.

Furthermore, pit bulls are NOT pack animals. Wolves are pack animals. If you want to go domestic, Huskies are pack animals. But pit bulls are NOT pack animals. The desire for a multiple canine pack was bred out of the pit bull LONG time ago.

Finally, any reputable breeder of standard pit bulls is NOT going to sell you a dog b/c they KNOW standard pit bulls should NEVER be bought as a companion for another dog. The pit bull is a breed bred for dog-on-dog combat. As such, they can be highly DA & they have NO desire for a canine pack whatsoever. In fact, most real deal bulldogs HATE other dogs & will try to kill them if given the slightest chance. This is a breed that craves HUMAN companionship (that's you), NOT the companionship of a dog.

JMHO ...

 

Dont you guys read the newspapers?Its all about how you ''train'' them.lol.Some dogs can be trained to get along with certain dogs.I've seen grch's that would play with other dogs.It's a gamble but no way imposable.Take the above advice about NEVER leave them unatended.I would be looking more at temprament rather than color.Theres nothing wrong with wanting a certain color dog as your the one that has to look at him for a long time.Pm me as I may be able to hook you up

 

I really don't think it can be made much clearer than that.