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Obama isn't really the president

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by ANCHOR, Feb 26, 2009.

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  1. ANCHOR

    ANCHOR Guest

    It's no secret that Chief Justice John Roberts got the words wrong to the US presidential Oath of Office when he presided over Barack Obama's inauguration in January. Some constitutional scholars grumbled that getting the right words jumbled invalidates the oath, but most lawyers agree its just semantics.
    The more troubling problem with Obama's inauguration is, in fact, when he said it. Under Amendment 20 of the US Constitution, the term of the outgoing president ends at exactly noon on January 20, and "if the President-elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President-elect shall act as President". Well, at exactly noon on January 20, 2009, Vice-president Joe Biden had already been sworn in (he took the oath at 11.57am), but Barack Obama hadn't - the musical interlude ran over time until 12.05pm. So, under the terms of the Constitution, by noon the President-elect had failed to qualify, so the real President is now... Joe Biden.

    what yall think of that?
     
  2. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    interesting and disturbing. the power of words has always amazed me.
     
  3. rpk

    rpk Big Dog

    Stop being foolish and accept your new president. If not you can always leave the US. You don't have anything better to do than to fantasize about some non African American being president. Get over it! President Obama has been in office over 30 days!
     
  4. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    why so hostile? i thought it was an interesting and disturbing piece of trivia that shows how fragile are government can be. to think the fumbling of a few words or the time of the day in which things can occur could dictate whether the leader of the free world is ready to take office disturbs me. i doubt anyone would challenge his presidency over something like that though. i still "fantasize" about the days Clinton was president. doesn't mean i don't love my country, and it has nothing to do with race. even if someone doesn't agree with who the president is, doesn't mean they should leave the country. that's why we have elections and we vote for who we think best fits the duty.:rolleyes:
     
  5. Hells Bells

    Hells Bells Top Dog

    Whoopty freakin doo... 5 minutes... :rolleyes: Seriously, this country needs some change. Other countries have leaders that are women and they aren't all white either. Obama won the election fair and square. There's no doubting it. I had to bang my head for 8 years with the idiocy of bush... so glad he's out of there. And we were paying over 3 bucks a gallon for gas (in okla) for a long time.. when bush was out.. now we are paying 1.50 to 1.60 a gallon! Now thats a relief.
     
  6. WWII

    WWII Banned

    The "idiocy of Bush" is still going strong with the new leader. Especially since he just shat in the face of everything he stood for pre-election. I'm seriously LOLing at the still euphoric feeling people are having of someone that is bound to outspend Bush in his first term. Probably even his first year.

    OP- He retook it that night, too. He is president whether we like it or not. Just gotta weather the storm and wait for some true conservatives to rise in power. I'm seeing a replay of the Carter/Reagan era.
     
  7. Hells Bells

    Hells Bells Top Dog

    Eh... I used to be left wing.... I don't really consider myself either anymore.. theres conservative views that I respect and liberal views. I'm still more liberal, thats just in saying I respect people of other race, sexual orientation, I have friends of different race, and I have friends that are in a lesbian relationship, Pro decriminalization of mary jane, free her already! Alcohol and ciggerettes kill thousands in a year...and they are legal. Now a little green plant... that is not addictive... has no links to cancer or heart disease. I think its Psychologically addictive. But not physically. It can become part of your lifestyle, but so can having some drinks or smoking ciggs. I know plenty of people who are very productive people.. not lazy losers as tv ads would have you believe. Shit, how much can you believe on tv anymore?

    Sex education schools. I don't think straight abstenince preaching is going to work at all. When I was in school we were taught about STD's, with nasty graphic pictures... taught about safe sex practices, pregnancy, what you didn't learn in school you were for sure going to learn about it through your friends. I don't think schools need to hand out condoms... but if you go up to planned parenthood or whatever they will give you a paperbag full of them for no charge. There are ways to practice safe sex and teens need to know how to do them! Our teen pregnancy rate is so high... I credit that to bad parenting and bad sex education.
     
  8. ANCHOR

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    Stop being foolish and accept your new president. If not you can always leave the US. You don't have anything better to do than to fantasize about some non African American being president. Get over it! President Obama has been in office over 30 days!
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    for f*%#k sake, you mob of fools ya self. get all hostile with me!
    i dont live in the U.S and i don't give a rats who your presidant is.
    i just thought it was a little interesting trivia.
    take a god dam chill pill and see i aint one to post anything on this forum to make trouble, wanted to know what some might think of the situation, lol...well yeh, i see, and i also see the ones that are quick to get up someone, ill make note of that and keep an eye out for future post's from those people lol.

    good day, D'S.......
     
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  9. WWII

    WWII Banned

    There was an article written that talked about your OP. He actually had it down to Condoleeza Rice being president for a short amount of time since Obama didn't take the oath on time and he thought Biden didn't, either. Turns out Biden did take it before noon and Obama took it (2x). It was interesting until the facts came out.

    On a side note, listen to what Alan Keyes was saying on Feb. 19th. lol....
     
  10. bohawg00

    bohawg00 Big Dog

    I love how already nobody is allowed to speak badly of the president with out being a racist........Get over it yourself!
     
  11. preme

    preme CH Dog

    Who Cares Im Still Working 65 Hours Aweek Just Like When Bush Was In Office So I Could Care Lest..lol Weres My Stimules Package..
     
  12. WWII

    WWII Banned

    It was already passed (~$800B) followed by another $400B spending bill to get us through Sept right on its heels.

    You want a bailout? Just quit your job and make really really bad decisions. The government will take care of you. Hell, they'll "pay your mortgage and put fuel in your car".
     
  13. Hells Bells

    Hells Bells Top Dog

    And how do I get some of these benefits...
     
  14. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Beats me. I'm too busy working to pay for them.
     
  15. prpitdawg

    prpitdawg Top Dog

    all i know is i'm in the wrong business. those ceo's are getting millions of dollars in bonuses for doing a shitty job. it's damn near impossible to get a raise for doing a good job at a factory. i can run a business into the ground so i guess i better apply to be a ceo. gotta love the way our tax dollars pay to bail out people's screw ups. then they use those tax dollars to pay for million dollar bonuses to people who are still screwing up. i especially love how that guy spent like $75,000 of our tax money to remodel his office. oh i forgot, we are getting something out of the deal, $18 of our own freakin money added to our check.
     
  16. Hells Bells

    Hells Bells Top Dog


    Well I think it's great for people that are barely scraping by to make a living. And they are working a minimum wage job, or a part time job because a full time position is not available. And then when you have kids... so I think it is good for people who really need it. And people on disability too.
     
  17. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Although these aren't the people I'm talking about.

    But, for example, if your mortgage is 38% which is soon to be reduced to 31% of your income, you really shouldn't have bought the house. Now, who is going to make up for that lost 7%? Tax payers that make good decisions.
     
  18. How about you all you ************** just shut the hell up and quit bringing it up! D's comment had nothing to do with race...it was to raise an eyebrow! Jesus Christ, get over it. If all of you immature idiots could let the NOVELTY of his skin pigment wear off a little bit, the REAL value of his presence might be able to shine through.

    Im tired of people saying that they're happy we have a black president.
    WHO THE HELL CARES?
    That statement makes you an idiot, pure and simple. You should be making the statement "I'm happy that we have a president that seems to be a great man, a great leader, and might save this country from its slippery slope of regretful problems." THAT would be a decent statement of joy about Obama being in office.

    D's could have posted about the semantics of when Washington turned over to Jefferson......

    ITS NOT ALL ABOUT RACE

    And all you simpletons who think that it actually matters, you're the morons that I wish would get deported or put in a firing line, so that I would actually WANT to move back to my home, the USA.
     
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  19. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Oh, if that were only the case.:(
     
  20. I'm not saying this because I voted for Obama. I voted for ole Johny boy. BUT, now that my commander in chief is who he is...I support him 100% and get really flippin' annoyed that RACE is the extent of most peoples' political opinions and knowledge. I have YET to have a conversation about Obama where some idiot hasn't brought up the word "BLACK"

    Really? STFU you moron...go chat about Rims or Myspace....something you know something about. Ya know?
     
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