pup???

Ok I been readin some of these pup threads and some of you talk about seperating them so early and the fire they have at an early age. Do you in your opinion think it means anything at this age? Example..... I raised a litter once good dogs both sides but one pup was very cold from day one all the others showed that fire! The hottest pup in the bunch I gave my buddy. And the little cold one my nephew wanted. The hot pup cooled down real quick lost all but a spark in my opinion not to say it couldn't be brought to life but just didn't show it anymore. The little cold pup ignited once he was seperated and kept gettin hotter. He ended up comin back home to me and lost him in a yard accident while at work but proved himself even then if ya know what I mean!

 

I really don't think how they act as young pup's is a way to accurately say how they will be as adults. I don't expect anything from them at that age, and think those that do, and brag about it are stupid noob's at best. I just want a pup to be a pup...you can not tell from how they act as a pup how they are going to be as an adult alot of people mistake play for prey drive or aggression I feel. I say when you are picking a pup what you want to do is let them pick you or just get the one you like the best at first glance.....don't do it by how they act, they are just small ones and can do a 360 by the time they are adults.

 

I agree totally realone! I tend to like the loners that aren't quite so wild seem to work out better for me.

 

Irk there's only one way of telling when if ya pic the right pup when his day come to find out and that's that

 

I have seen that in alot of cases when then queit runt goes in into beast mode once he/she get recieves its confidence...

 

the only reason I seperatemy litter is cause they started hooking into eachother and I already had to take two of them into the vet for stitches:eek:
otherwise I agree when choosing a pup, no matter how wild they may seem now that doesn't mean they will stay that way.
some of my best dogs i had in the past were just the pups that I didn't have traded or given out to friends with space on thier yard for.
you kinda get tired of people wanting to know the personality of each pup when they don't even know how they want to act themselves yet!!!

 

I know from experience that when you see young pups that seem to act hot @ a young age. It is best to seperate them, I lost a 2month old pup like that due to I thought ( Oh, there just pups no harm) then next I know the unthinkable happen. But as far as choosen a pup because of a it shows to be the dominate one @ that age I would have to say no or not always. I guess you just have to have that connection and run with your gut.

 

I have to disagree with that, If you know how to breed dogs and you know what your breeding for, I believe a good pup can be picked from a litter of 5-6 week old pups. Granted there are a lot of traits pups don't show that early, but if you know what to look for in that breed, the right person can pick a good pup from the bunch. Certain drives you look for depending on the job selected for the dog.... and this is not just with APBT, I've seen people pick Malinos as pups that were hot and are still that way, GSD, American bulldogs, rotts, the list goes on and people do it every day. If you can't do it or don't know how then just grab one and take it, but me Imma go pick my own pup out.

 

Im not asking how to pick a pup but just your opinions. Mine is similar to real one. Because in my opinion as a dog matures he/she will change and a pup is just that a pup. As far as structure correct bite etc..... yes at weaning you can see that but it is also possible to change as they grow. In my opinion pick the one you think will best suit your needs and go from there.

 

I really don't think anyone can pick out a 100% success rate of good dog's based on how they act as a puppy, and I really don't think it is knowing the breed or not. Wouldn't it be more of knowing the direct family (i.e. stud, bitch, and the grandparent's, and what not), and not so much the breed as a whole since different lines show different characteristic's? Did I not say grab the one that catches your eye? Different people will pick different pup's for different reasons....is that not picking the one that catches your eye? I do believe that you can pick out a good one as a pup, but I don't think you can be positive about every pup you pick out will turn out exactly like you think it will. It is a gamble every time you pick one out, and if you think that every dog you pick out is a good one then you need to look at your standards (not you personally, just whoever).

 

So do you believe in the eye or not?

I agree 100% about the dogs/dogmen backing the pups is important. But there is something to be said about how a pup acts and how they will turn out as adults.

When my dad would pick GSD pups he would hang around the litter for atleast 20 minutes then walk off the one that followed him first was the one he picked. Had one that followed him then bit him on the ankle. That was a fearless dog.

 

aint that the truth

 

its all a crap shot believe me ....momma need a new pair of shoes..:cool:

 

My girl, now nearing 6 months old used to love romping with other dogs. Now its an entirely different matter. The only dog she's even remotely cold to is this HUGE Newfounland from down the street. She loves him LOL barks and wags and nuzzles right up to him. He just sits there, all 150+ pounds of him and smiles/drools... Other dogs though, even the ones she played with only a month ago, all they get is a lunge and a stare-down. And it's getting really hard to disrupt it. So were taking more early morning / late evening walks to avoid the majority of the dog traffic in my neighborhood.

She's still sweet as pie to people she knows and strangers though ;-) She's learned how to give hugs LOL she doesn't get pushy, just puts her front arms around your waste and nuzzles the side of her head into your belly LOL

But I can tell, when she looks at other dogs, she's sizing them up. It's almost like she's getting ideas. And it was like a switch just flipped, y'know? I was prepared for it, and it is being mitigated. I take a dog-aggressive dog who's got a HUGE love for people, especially children, any day.

 

I agree with mac11 on this one. A pup so young is never a sure thing.But bred right and acting right at this age, all you have to do is encourage that little bugger huffing and puffing and hitting the end of that puppy chain like a mini bulldozer, and there's a good chance you'll have a good prospect.

 

Have to agree with this. I also realize this is a public board and as such everything cannot be discussed as openly as we would like, even in historical perspective. I just want folks to keep in mind that there is a difference between personality/propensity and actual ability.

As Mac11 points out, experienced folks who know their breed/lines know what they're looking at from a very early age. And usually, personalities don't really change much. Some personalities/propensities are more easily molded/directed in certain directions than others.

By two years the outgoing ones will most likely still be the outgoing ones, and the more reserved still reserved, however this does not mean that the outgoing ones will definitely have more ability in one area or another that the reserved.