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Skill vs. Mouth

Discussion in 'Dog Discussion' started by budboy88, Dec 16, 2009.

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  1. slim12

    slim12 Super Moderator Staff Member

    nothing is wrong with wanting it all...but amount of mouth depends on the individual dog....location is an overwhelming factor in determining hard mouthed or not...if one resides in the chest/shoulder area it takes a ton of mouth to stop a game one...the stifle/dick area does not require the amount of mouth the shoulders/chest does....and busting one between the eyes/face requires very little mouth but the effects are the same...and if he is an ear sucker/rider, well he better get two loads of mouth or be there all night....
    if a game one can't bust an egg but consistently applies pressure to the face....he has an excellent chance to win....if that same one goes to the chest without the mouth necessary to do the job...well he/she is a game plug....well worth breeding to by someone who works the line...or by you if you got that bonecrusher already...
    some consider deciding location as ability, sort of "iffy" on that....i was always taught to look for gameness....enough mouth....and the desire to finish...s
     
    slim12, Dec 18, 2009
    #21
  2. msdogman

    msdogman Pup

    very true good point
     
    msdogman, Dec 18, 2009
    #22
  3. wardogkennels

    wardogkennels Top Dog

    LOL! Let me hear these bite techniques. I gotta learn this and after you teach me how its done can you post some peds of some Ch.'s and Gr.Ch.'s you've owned. This should be good.

     
    wardogkennels, Dec 18, 2009
    #23
  4. wardogkennels

    wardogkennels Top Dog

    Actually you will even lose skill the longer it goes but skill will always last longer then the strength of their mouth.
     
    wardogkennels, Dec 18, 2009
    #24
  5. buzdog

    buzdog Pup

    i agree with you wardog you lose both but a you say the mouth goes first
     
    buzdog, Dec 18, 2009
    #25
  6. PrettyBoyKnls

    PrettyBoyKnls Pup

    I'll take a skilld dog 10 out of 10 times, but thats jmo!!!
     
    PrettyBoyKnls, Dec 18, 2009
    #26
  7. maddog2020

    maddog2020 Big Dog

    skill all day. mouth is a very hard trait to pass consistently, so if you breed for gameness and skill and just let the mouth come when you do get one with mouth you will have a complete dog and really have something special.
     
    maddog2020, Dec 18, 2009
    #27
  8. synno2004

    synno2004 Top Dog

    Intelligence....................what if he is inteligent enough to know he is not good enough. He can talk his way out of it. :D

    ALL B.S. Aside it has to have the complete well rounded temperament. Every action has a RE-action.
     
    synno2004, Dec 18, 2009
    #28
  9. Jelet

    Jelet Banned

    SKILL is more important IMO.

    Just like in humans. (Not humans biting people wise.) But human power/strength.

    A fat guy with lots of fighting skills

    against

    a guy who is practically "all muscle", same weight, but the guy has no fighting skills.

    I'd have my money on the fat guy with skills and the dog with medium bite and lots of skills
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Dec 19, 2009
    Jelet, Dec 19, 2009
    #29
  10. WWII

    WWII Banned

    Skill. ...............
     
    WWII, Dec 19, 2009
    #30
  11. GemCityPits

    GemCityPits Big Dog

    I guess it would be alot like the Kimbo Slice vs Roy "Big Country" Nelson match from this season of the ultimate fighter, Kimbo is in better shape and has knock out power (mouth), Roy on the other hand is not in shape but has alot of experience (skill), Roy won the match because of skill not devastating power...;)
     
    GemCityPits, Dec 19, 2009
    #31
  12. AGame

    AGame CH Dog

    Roy just has a big Gut but as far as being in shape he is way better conditioned than kimbo
     
    AGame, Dec 19, 2009
    #32
  13. GemCityPits

    GemCityPits Big Dog

    I just meant physically not that hes conditioned better... it was just an analogy for the whole skill vs mouth thing...:rolleyes:
     
    GemCityPits, Dec 19, 2009
    #33
  14. homer39

    homer39 Banned

    mouth just like badrosemarys
     
    homer39, Dec 19, 2009
    #34
  15. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    to think people actually feel the need to discuss topics like this on the very open internet just blows me away.
    cant play this one off as "weight pull" talk

    [​IMG]
     
    rallyracer, Dec 19, 2009
    #35
  16. Wood23

    Wood23 Big Dog

     
    Wood23, Dec 19, 2009
    #36
  17. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog


    no paranoia here. im just the guy who sits here and saves people from themselves. there is an old saying- "give em enough rope, and they will hang themselves".

    carry on, they are watching and taking it all in.
     
    rallyracer, Dec 19, 2009
    #37
  18. Wood23

    Wood23 Big Dog

    Yeah that is true thanks for the insight bro
     
    Wood23, Dec 19, 2009
    #38
  19. nfahred

    nfahred Big Dog

    I'm with Wardog on this one! Mouth will eventually soften up over time. Thats just like saying that a boxer still has the same hitting power in the top of the 12th that he had in the beginning rounds. Not possible. IMHO
     
    nfahred, Dec 20, 2009
    #39
  20. NMWAPBT

    NMWAPBT Top Dog

    personally i think both and have equallity but wasnt chinaman a hardmouthed dog and few of his matches went past 30min:rolleyes:
     
    NMWAPBT, Dec 20, 2009
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