How To: Change the "Big Blue" Mentality

How To: Change the "Big Blue" Mentality

Okay folks...we all know the concept, some of us may have been victim to it at some point...some of us still are...the biggest, bluest, baddest dog on the block is the best pit bull. And he's purebred fo sho. And if you don't agree, your a hater. Or jealous.

How do you change that mindset? Has anyone ever changed the mind of a die-hard low and wide fan (or peddler) to someone who truly knows what the breed is, and respects that? I have come across a few people who know that RE dogs aren't what the breed was supposed to be, but they use the line that since the work is now illegal, the look of the breed will change. Of course it's faulty logic, but the question still remains...how do you change the minds of folks who truly have no clue (yet think they know all) about this breed?

(If anyone cares to witness some truly frustrating folks, check out ratemypitbull.com...you might recognize someone leaving comments on the "top list")

Do we have ANY hope of getting the breed back to what it was?

 

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It won't matter what you say. Even if you change one person's mind, you still have hundreds of thousands of people who think these mutts are the real deal. Just leave them alone. The reputation of this breed is permanently ruined and there is nothing we can do to change it back to the way it was.

I understand why everyone is so dedicated to fighting with others about what they call their dog. I used to do the same thing. But think about it.
Why would you want to associate your great dog as a baby killing monster? That is what everyone thinks of when they hear pit bull.... Let the people who are breeding dogs to fit that image keep the name. Why not call your dog something else?
People are set in their ways. If you tell them that their hippos are not true pit bulls, they will only get mad. If you tell strangers that you have a pit bull, they will associate it with a babykiller immediately. You MAY be able to change their minds with tons of work but the chances are not in your favor most of the time.

If they want to associate themselves and their dogs with a breed that is known as babykillers and overgrown mutts with 30 inch heads, so be it. They will just continue to give the media more fuel to the fire.
They are not going to change. So, we are going to have to change.

 

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All i know is i am personally sick and tired of seeing these gotti, RE, watchdogs blue hippos all the time and most people claim them to be pure....we all know gotti was an EB x Pit. I have a comparison pic from another forum the looks are identical. I dont have anything against these pet bulls but i just am sick of seeing them everywere.

 

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I dont know if you can change the minds of ppl that do not breed to standard esp with the intent not to . Ofcourse they beleive they are breeding a better dog.....well, I will agree to dissagree on that subject.

As far as public perception, No it will not change as long as ppl are breeding and placing animals for the purpose of lining their pockets or in hopes to do so.....placing these animals within the public. I cant stress enough that this breed is not for everyone!

"Do we have ANY hope of getting the breed back to what it was?"

Only if your willing to try an overturn the 1976 animal welfare act

 

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I have a blue, and she do not look ANYTHING like that, but now I understand what you all have against them. I dont know what to say, Im not an expert but I know that is not the way an APBT should look like.

 

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I agree 100%, but I think part of the problem is these dogs are bred for conformation. Thats not to say they are bred for what the breed was made for, but if you check out the pit bull conformation web site, these big monsters are whats winning dog shows. Not the small, game dogs we know and love as pit bulls.

 

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First off the dogs are not the ones who should be looked down upon, blame the deed not the breed, remember. It's the people behind the dogs who breeding for size,color,and money. The dogs have no say. I'm not suggesting we embrace these wrogfully bred dogs, but why look down upon them beause of what they were bred for, that doesn't make you any better than the person/persons involved in the breeding.

Second of all, these wrongfully bred dogs need exercise and training and they would be healthier looking and probably even adoptable. I have read many of the members post here and what I have come to understand is apart of history lies within these present dogs whether we like it or not. Somewhere back then they must've had pit bull in them, so evidently they have a trait to be a family dog.
All I'm saying is giving up on any bully bred dog is just participating in the stereotypes of the media and if you don't care about what the media has to say then what do you care about these dogs?

 

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Doggy, I don't know if anyone on this site does put the blame on the dogs (shame on them if they do). We put 100% of the blame on their idiot breeders.

 

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Precisely. One of my favorite dogs of all time that I transported was a big ass blue fawn, most likely RE dog...he was a total doll and a beast. I loved him to pieces. It's whoever bred him and called him a pit bull that I'd like to have a little chat with.

I, for one, actually have a secret little love for the big monster dogs, particularly goobery boys, but I hate that they are being created in a time of such horrid overpopulation and on top of that, being called pit bulls. Once again, the dogs are not the problem, the people are. I hope nobody makes the mistake of thinking otherwise.

 

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i have to disagree with you guys on this one. i think this breed is going to survive. the fact that these dogs are now the "fad" and taking a turn around in terms of confirmation is just a testament of how fads have come and gone among all breeds. the "true" dog people were around many years before and will continue to thrive many years after these fads have gone away. in terms of bloodlines and lineage, there are just more pit mixes and true pits out there for the "real" dogmen to clean up after all the bullsh*t is over. if the true apbt owners keep their yard going (and i think they will), the long term theory would be that a lower yet cleaner stock will arise without the unneccessary attention. idiot breeders will die out eventually. ever notice how many bullsh*t blue breeders pop up with sites for pups only to disappear into oblivion in less than a year or two? darwinian theory will prevail even with short sited capitalistic peddlers.
and about the blue gotty jockeys in the world, i think that what they try to preach as being a true apbt doesn't matter anyway. if they don't know sh*t all they will say it sh*t. they will never affect true dogpeople anyways. "big azz head, 130 lbs., two inch legs, WOOT WOOT'n and hollerin. in essence, the "car shows" will always be in the paddocks fluffing their paint while the real "race cars" will be on the track and truly appreciated by the people who count. PEACE! cheer up!

 

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Plain and simple the original APBT is fading away and the blues are taking over. No matter what you do or say nothing is going to change, what way do you think people will go, doing whats right or $$$$$$$$$$$$$. No one cares what people say as long as they getting that money, honestly around here there are know Game breeders and every body is a hustler and I know I brung this up before but instead of hustlin in a illegal way they do what they gotta do to get paid. Sorry fellas and I'm speakin as a man of the original APBT not a BYB, in a few years it will be rare to find a TRUE game bred APBT.

 

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When the mentality starts focusing on "we", instead of "me", then perhaps the best intentions for this breed will be instituted. Until then, it's not about the canine, but rather, what's "mine".


Mankind needs to surrender his self indulgence. I don't foresee that happening in my life time. As a result, the APBT, as we know it, along with many things, will continue to take a nose dive.

 

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To Me Its The World, Alot Of People Are More Selfish Now Than Ever. To Love Money Is Evil (bible Stated) And This World Is Full Of Peole That Just Flat Out Would Kill For Money. I Don't Know About Any Of You Or Where You Are From Or Brought Up But The Term Get Rich Or Die Tryin Is Takin Very Seriously Here. Now There Are Only A Few People That Appreciate Other Things Like The Real Apbt, Families, And Other Things But In The Direction This World Is Going All Of That Is Dying Out And People Want To Get Rich Or Die Tryin.

Now With That Being Stated, Am I Against Those Dogs Being Bred? Yes And No Depending On The Person's Situation, Will I Fight Against The Breeding Of These Dogs? I Will Educate Not Insult And Hope That People Take It Understand And Process It. To You What They Do Is Wrong, To Them What You Do Is Wrong. Some Of Them Breed For Money, Ego, Or Because They Are In Love With The Look, Size Or Color. You Breed For (game), Which Is Illegal If Your Dog Is Really Game Tested (one Way Only) So With That Being Said What Is More Wrong You Choose.

 

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Too bad there's no way to make big blues "uncool," LOL. The upside is, probably most of the people breeding bluffs are in for a few litters and then out again as soon as they get bored or hit some friction. The downside is, the damage is already done. I guess we'll juat have to stick it out and see what happens in the long run.

 

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That day will never come....because even if you dont find one game dog in whole America.....you have them in hundred other parts of the world....russia, china,japan, turkey,the philipines and and and...by far to much to list....lol...look...who talks about big blue Bulldogs? I only know them from P ictures....i never saw a big blue here in germany....they are for sure crossmuts....oneday flys

 

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The circle will tighten up,as it desperatly needs to. The dogs bred to standard will perservere, at least in my life time.

BTW in person, those big ol dogs not bred to standard are just goofy lookin.

 

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In all actuality, I hope they keep this "Big Blue" mentality. It keeps the animal activist set on these Bluffs, Mutts, and "Big Blues" and not on my true to the breed APBT. The amount of real APBTs has not changed. Its the same as it was 50 years ago. They are where they need to be. In the hands of good homes, and its the mutts and bluffs that have the bad rep. By the time this is all over, people will forget what a real APBT looks like and stop f%ckin with us.

 

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I pulled a conformation ribbon last yr...LOL

I get what your saying but a judge has to pick 3 in each class. If that's all thats showing up.....well, that's the best example of this breed they got to go on LOL.

 

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You know Tommy, its rare a week goes by that I don't change someones mind or make them aware that Pitbulls can be great dogs. So its not hopeless. Regarding the original question, I'm not sure how you reach those folks.

 

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I have been told that the blue is a genetic defect right? Also i have been told that back in the day bulldogers would cut (manly) or spade the dogs to take them out of the loop so if the that is all true then why are these dog still here?