Animal Planet probes dogfighting culture

Just because it's cruel in your eyes does not make it cruel....Cruelty can only be judged by the participants in the act! NOT THE SPECTATORS! Is it cruel for 2 grown men to put on gloves and punch each others face in as willing participants in a fight? No, it isn't, because they are the ones participating in the event and they are the ones choosing to do it, there was a real good quote on this site somewhere that I wish I could find for this particular thread.
Fighting is what this breed was bred for, this is what they love, this is what they do, they are willing participants that can quit anytime they see fit (in the real areana anyways, I can't speak for what some fuck head does in the urban population with their dogs) but for the most part, people true to their dogs would not let a dog that didn't want to be there stay there, that would be cruel! Taking the dogs free will away from them because you feel it's cruel is the real act of Cruelty!!!!!!!
Personally I feel, to all the people with this mind set, STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM APBT'S! Go get yourself a nice pomapoo and a doggie sweater, you'll save yourself alot of future headaches........

 

does ne1 know if i can watch this episode online sumwhere i missed it, thanks

 

You really just contridict yourself with this verbal garbage. The breeds original form was NOT to be a weight puller, NOT to be an agility performer or anything else etc. It's original form is DOGFIGHTING! Period no ands, ifs or buts.........

 

Does anyone have a link for this show, I would really like to see this piece of work....

 

AGK...DITTO!

There you have it and that's the truth!

 

Lol I like how your so quick to get defensive. Have you not read any of my other posts. Either way I entitled to my own damn opinion so quit crying about already. Do whatever the he'll you want with your dogs for all I care.

 

And I'm not speaking on behalf of dogmen because hate to break it to ya, most dogfighting is done in the streets with cruel ways of doing it. I SPECIFICALLY talked about that form of dogfighting so quit the crying. It's cruel and there's no way ou can argue that. As far as the way I guess real dogmen do it, I don't know. I've spoken yo a member on the forum whose givin me some info on it and I can agree to a point that it is much more ethical the way he described it, I still won't say I'm convinced. But as far as street fighting which is what people are exposed to, the show was DEAD on. That's exactly how it is and that's what everyday people get to see. Poor dogs that get no affection or care, live in terrible conditions and are used for money, an if they happen go lose are killed it's cruel so don't argue that. Mist the dogs don't even want to fight. As far as the way "professionals" do it, that may be a different story. I'll compare it to the UFC, the two guys want to fight eachother, they agree to it and are givin medical care before and after every fight. If that's the way "professional" dog fighters do it then that's a total different story.

 

Good post. I see many similarities with whats going on with the hsus and the industry that has been created from the "war on drugs". Prison guard unions and corporate run prisons can give you a pretty good idea what these groups are really capable of. If there isnt already a real problem these groups will create one with bullshit propaganda which keeps their pockets fat.

 

I did read this whole thread, mostly concentrating on your posts. I'm not being defensive at all, I could care less what you do with you PETS, my problem with people like you is that, because you view something as cruel you spew your beliefs on to others as written law, thats exactly what the AR nut jobs do. I thought I lived in the USA where I don't have to like what you like, but I guess them days are long gone and we are now a communist regime and we should all feel the way you do or we are dogfighters........lol
My biggest problem with people like you is that they own a dog that they are ashamed of the dogs heritage. Every aspect of your dog that you love so much is because dedicated people made sure they were preserved in there original form and to not aknowlege that fact is the great Hyprocicy! :rolleyes:

 

Damn good post

 

Since it was on yesterday it hasnt hit YouTube or anything yet. I can try to find when its on next if you would like?

Also, unless you all want this thread locked, which would suck, please refrain from personal attacks.

Thanks!

 

Once again I never spoke of the people who so it the way dogmen did many years ago, I respect the breed and everything that makes it what it is so let's not har a misunderstanding here. The ONLy thing I'm against is the way MOST people go about fighting there dogs TODAY. I'm sure there's still people that do it in a correct manner but I'm not adressing them. I speak solely on the way street punks treat there dogs, and I doubt you can argue with me that it's cruel.

 

You know this for a fact? Or, are you just stating this point for your own benifit? I don't think you could really prove this point since everyone knows how elusive most circles are.

If you think that the APBT is the only breed that falls under this you are sadly mistaken


Now you can insult me all you want, thats fine, I'm a big boy and I promise I won't cry (in the end it just shows your unwillingness to be educated on a subject due to your own inability to get past your humaniac tendoncies), but you need to get your nose off the TV screen and into a book that is factual or meet with some people that have much more knowlege on the subject than you obviously have, not some miss-informed TV show looking for ratings....(or even the things you see around your neck of the woods, the planet is alot bigger than your backyard)........

 

very nice i agree 100%

 

Lol dude enough. I made it clear I was only speaking on what I know and see, I won't comment on dogmen. Is that fair enough for you?

 

I'll add this and be done with it. We can thank the very same people for the problem we have with the street kids fighting dogs. These animal rights people and the media publicized dogfighting and put it on television for the whole world to see.

Without this negative publicity none of these kids would know a damn thing about bulldogs. Now every moron who has ever decided to crawl out from under their rock wants a bulldog. We didn't have this problem until the animal rights people started publicizing the made up dog fighting problem.

Again, this was all done to promote their services to an unsuspecting society.

We need to have our message heard loud and clear: Our society does not need their services, help or whatever it is they are $elling!!!!!!!!

Go get a real job, or better yet, help people in need, and quit trying to ruin the lives of their fellow man just because they do not agree with their way of life or the sports they choose to participate in.

Good fences make great neighbors, mind your own damn business....

 

Another great post.

 

as much as i wuish they would the general pet owner will never agree that it is not cruel. i personally do not think it is but it is also no where in the same category as horse or dog racing. the dogs are being fought and injuries do occur, people think they have no choice, i believe they do have a choice, but they are just as happy in combat as sitting on your couch. if it can be compared to anything i would compare it to hunting personally i like hunting but i believe hunting is more cruel than matching dogs atleast the dogs want to be there, dont get me wrong hunting and eating what you kill is far different than trophy huntiong in my opinion but both to me are worse than dog on dog combat. not to mention we have far bigger problems than dog fighting

 

With all the adverse situations going on in the world in this day and age, I can't understand how some people agree on spending all the money and resources they do in trying to "uncover" dog fighting. I didn't think that this television show would be fair to the dog men who partake in the practice, but I didn't expect lies like the dogs that were seized were way under weight. They were well conditioned athletes. And bullshit like Since Mike Vick we understand that people are electrifying dogs, drowning dogs because its a byproduct of their shame in their dog's showing. Only assholes would do such things. Thats complete horse shit. And finally I wished some people didn't confuse the bullshit street fights with properly sanctioned fights in the pit. There's a HUGE difference.

 

PETA Compares Meat Eaters To Terrorist
Guess Im a terrorist then!

The animal rights group PETA is certainly known for its shocking ads, aggressive tactics and bountiful photos of naked ladies touting vegetarianism, pet adoption and animal birth control, but one of the latest posts on its blog still manages to push the envelope.

Blogger Logan Scherer writes a post about howGhulam Rasool Khan, who was arrested in India with suspected links to al Qaeda and the Taliban, insists on eating large quantities of meat rather than the vegetarian food served in prison. Scherer makes a highly dubious equation comparing eating meat with violence against humans.

Behold: a visit from Captain Obvious. As if the world needed another example of the proven link between violence against animals and violence against humans, Ghulam Rasool Khan--a suspected al-Qaida member jailed in India--refuses to eat the vegetarian food served to him, instead demanding "two kg of mutton and one kg of chicken daily."


Khan has threatened to go on a hunger strike if he doesn't get his carcasses. But if PETA India's recent request that all jails serve only vegetarian meals is honored, then the bloodthirsty terrorist will be starving himself indefinitely.

The "proven link" Scherer is referring to is a PETA post about how serial killers often torture animals before "graduating" to humans.

Is PETA suggesting that simply eating meat is the same sociopathic behavior as torturing small animals? Is there really a seamless link between wanting to eat meat and being actively engaged in terrorism? Ironically, PETA itself was recently classified as a terrorist threat by the USDA. Let us know what you think.

PETA Compares Meat Eaters To Terrorists, Sociopaths

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dillybar
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Re: PETA Compares Meat Eaters To Terrorist

Haven't I heard that somewhere before? Wasn't that said ah let's see.. OH Yea, that was the same thing the HSUS and ASPCA was saying about dog fighters on the Animal Planet last night! Oh yea, now I remember....

Damn, I guess it's got to be true....