Old game Bred Bull terriers

From
The illustrated book of the dog
1881

 

Dhole cannot breed with domestic dogs and what's more they do not do what is described as often as you think. It is usually the reverse.

Any pics of guvnor?
I think Ch Pepsi was 1/4 EBT.

I heard stormer quit in a rolls. He may have been good ability wise, but I don't think he was game, which is a genetic trait. But it could be that he simply hasn't matured. You'd know better than me.

 

Just a bit of trivia.

EBT or Pit Bull Terrier?

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4.



5.

 

wK dogs ?

 

Some are show bred EBT and some are Pit Bull Terriers.

 

which are which Roberto?

 

Defeats the purpose if he tells you lol

 

1. 2. and 4 ...Pit bulls...?

 

I am going to go with 4 is a pitbull they rest are bull terriers.

 

I will say no.2 is of pure EBT pedigree, but is listed in the Dog fancier as a Bull Terrier then the same year as a Pit Bull Terrier. I think the Pit Bull Terrier label was a mistake, but who knows if it was the "greatest heavyweight" show or pit dog on the pacific coast. I would lean towards show.

Dusty is correct on 1 and 4.

 

1. Lady Spot (PBT)

2. Piermont Mogan (EBT)

3. Williamette Snowstorm (EBT)

4. Evans Snowy/Snowball (PBT)

5. Jo-Ve-Nay (EBT)

 

Heavyweight is pit back in those days. He was bred extensively with apbt and even bred into foxhounds. I believe he was a winner, but mostly a pet. He was always referred to as an apbt but he was certainly an EBT.

 

Can you find any information that says he was bred to APBT or Foxhounds. There was a fancier of Collies and other dogs called Piermont Morgan that featured in the dog Fancier heavily so maybe that is where you have got that from.

True he was listed in the Dog Fancier both times he appeared under the Pit Bull Terrier section and not the Bull Terrier section with the other EBT's.

As far as the AKC records show, he was only bred to two females and both were show EBT's.





With the registered offspring being these three.

 

I don't, my relation who's into bull terriers I'm certain does.
I'm not so sure Pepsi is a 1/4 BT. I don't know but a friend who owned her brother always did maintain they were 100% apbt.

Best to go by by what we see not by what we're told. I heard a lot of shit talk about Stormer before I see him, most of which he proved was false. I see him take stick and prevail if he was a cur I think he'd of shown it then. Game is more than just genetics or we would never be talking about dogs getting ruined.

 

And I agree with him.

 

It was from one of the country magazines. I don't remember which one.

Mind asking them for some pics? I'd like to see this dog after all I've heard.
I heard she was a quarter bull from oxbull. Could be wrong, though I've never seen a pedigree for her
100% correct in that aspect.

Same. there are some staffords today that could be considered better by some. Of course, psycho was a great dog because of his production record and gameness.

 

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=483746

The story with "Stormer" is when young he was rolled with a well know dog called "Spock" , and he did not scratch , all scratches ware made by "Spock" , the roll went over 2 hours ,,until "Spock" could not stand,,, "Stormer" was later sold to his new owners in England ,,, and he won three matches with them,,,

 

What do you guys reckon to this Bulldog??

 

That's a a shar pei is it not?

Thanks for the ped and the info
Hearing this, it's safe to say I was wrong about stormer for sure. Definitely had some ability