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The Colby Line

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by Dr. Lector, Feb 28, 2012.

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  1. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    You sound like you know what you're talking about but please wipe those "nasty" facts off before handing them out (I know where they came from) LOL ... and I know what I have too. Thank you for the well wishes :cool:
     
  2. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    Theres a BIG difference between posting a pedigree, opposed to posting a championship certificate (which is what I asked for), from a well known publication (SDJ, AGDT, etc,,,), so buddy. maybe you arent aware of what those are. I'll give you this, even those have been faked before too, but they are a bit harder to fake than a unregulated web based pedigree site. Count the number of ROM's listed on feds on line,,, LMAO. According to feds on line, a few of my bitches have winning offspring, as well as pups, but the problem with that, is the bitches I owned WERE NEVER BRED! Here from birth to death, no exceptions.
    Like I said, if you want nostalgia, you have it.
     
  3. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Everyone seems to like Jeep and Redboy ... most everyone right?
    Lets take a look at just those two dogs and the four generations behind them

    Jeep (4XW) http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=2
    Colby's (AKA Loposay's) Rusty
    Colby's Chita
    Colby's Texas
    Colby's Barney
    Colby's Jenny

    Redboy (2XW) http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=60
    Colby's Dime
    Colby's Margie
    Colby's Tweedie
    Colby's Penny (Fuller's Penny)
    Colby's Rifle
    Colby's Gypsy
    Colby's Dime (again)
    Colby's Marge (again)

    The SAME could be said of MANY dog of renown. There's some Colby in there somewhere.

    Why wouldn't I want to own a purebred undiluted Colby dog that contains all those Colby dogs listed in it's peds and more? Seems some well respected dogmen and breeders didn't turn them down.
     
  4. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    First off jeep is damn near 30 years ago.
    Second off, there is about an 1/8 Colby in the four generation pedigree.

    Third, Redboy is as old, or older (its late tonight, and I'm no Redboy fan), and he is far less than half Colby in 4 generations.
    I must also correct your statement from earlier, I said I was aware of some Colby crosses, that were at least competing, I never said they were successful.
    Man, its cool you own what you like, but you arent going to sway anyone elses opinions on here about them. So, just kick back and pet your collectible on the head, and be happy!
     
  5. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    And just because there's no pictures in this thread LOL ... my pup Mason
    Right now, he's 5 months 1 week old and weighs about 27 pounds. I expect him to weigh about 40 full grown.
    His dam, CiCi weighs 32 and Sire Rocco weighs 38.
    http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/modules.php?name=Public&file=printPedigree&dog_id=388137

    CiCi and Rocco

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    A pic of my pups sire, Rocco ... and Machobuck from a few years ago

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  6. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    Congrats, looks just like most Colby dogs I've ever seen!
     
  7. StosMan

    StosMan Big Dog

    Joe,
    You're missing the point. All these guys are saying is that they have not seen any of today's Colby's dog hunt. No one disputes that a vast majority of fast lane dogs have Colby in their blood from many, many years ago. I love the Colby pooches, but to argue just to argue with neither side being able to provide proof of the Colby dogs hunting or not is futile. I'm guessing there are some backwood guys like the guys in Deliverance ("squeal like a pig") that may be running some Colby blood, but they sure as hell aren't on this damn board talkin dogs or posting shit on the net.

    The fact is this thread is a complete joke. Like yourself there are Colby supporters, and you have non Colby supporters. What's the point?- You call them haters cause they won't feed the Colby dogs because they don't see any proof that the Colby strain is hunting. They suggest that you're nuts for supporting Colby in a "Game-Dog" board. Who the Hell cares? You love your pooch, you're the one feeding him. You decided not to feed a Jeep, or Tombstone/ Bolio, or Alligator or Eli or Bullyson etc, etc, does that make you a hater cause your not feeding those pooches? I think not.

    Any which way you want to look at it, it's nonsense and foolish to continue with this circular argument or positio. One that you are trying to convince them that they are haters and not able to see the dogs value, and in turn them trying to convince you to see the light that the Colby dogs are not being run in the fast lane.

    SM
     
  8. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    Well I think you nailed it SM :cool: ... and I wouldn't know about the fastlane anyway. But to say that a Colby dog doesn't belong on a Game-Dog board is a denial of history and Colby legacy. I would never count them out either. That said ... so far, this Colby pup is turning out to be a far better strictly pet quality dog than that red one, Rowdy (r.i.p.) in my Avatar ... a bulldawg from unknown origin and pedigree that never gave in, never gave up and never backed down from nothing. Coby's are said to mature later than most bulldogs ... so we'll just have to wait and see.
     
  9. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

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    Rowdy ... damn I miss that dog

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  10. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    JoeBingomy comment to you was bullshit. That pretty much described how i felt about your post. There are tons of dogs bred to work, and its funny you go back to jeep and redboy to try to prove a point and they still needed other dogs crossed in.
     
  11. rallyracer

    rallyracer CH Dog

    For what its worth- pepper was sdj recognized
     
  12. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    GR CH Colby Pepper (F39) is a legitimate SDJ GR CH, campaigned, conditioned by xxxxxxxxx handled by xxxxxxxxxxx from 1989-94.

    After she won her CH from highly-respected xxxxxxxxx Kennels in her longest show @ :49, she had a two-year hiatus. Theoretically, she could've been an 8xw, even dbl GR CH. Her style was extremely hard to beat; "You can't win if you can't breathe!" (PM me if you want to know more...)

    She won her GR CH @ age 6 1/2. Four of her six shows went under :18...In 9/94, she was in Heat, and a MCW got loose, and she never regained her feet. She had just one litter, bred to the l-mate brother of GR CH IBM; 7 were whelped, 5 didn't make it early, one was cold, and the other went 2:16 to a draw in 90-degree weather in <ST1:pSt. Croix</ST1:place...
     
  13. BEHAVIN

    BEHAVIN Top Dog

    for what its worth lol ^^^^^^^......
     
  14. Naustroms

    Naustroms CH Dog

    I heard that Princess dog was the real deal.

    Most dogs these days are pets and a large majority don't compete in anything but online dick measuring contests.
     
  15. Dream Pits

    Dream Pits CH Dog

    Nice read but that was still 20 years ago.
     
  16. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    Not only 20 years, but only one pure Colby dog. I usually have a memory for the odd balls, but I must have disposed of that as a needless memory lol. It probably didnt occur to me at the time, that it would be a topic of discussion one day. Happens with old age.
     
  17. Icepick

    Icepick Banned

    Hey Naus, look at Princess offspring, and you will see the grandson of Werdo that she was stuck to, and TL didnt pay the stud fee. That dog was in SC at the time she was stuck to him, and princess was no champion (or even touched) at the time of the breeding. Maybe she did something after she was bred, but thats kind of backwards isnt it? I met the owner of the stud a few times, and he tried some dogs from TL ( both Vindy and Colby lines at the time) and they didnt make his yard. Like I said earlier, TL was in dodge mode ;) , if you get the what I'm saying.
     
  18. popow

    popow Pup

    colby dogs were the foundation of many fast lane dogs, but there time past along time ago.Now they are just names on paper.They have to prove them selves to stay relavent.They colby name has respect for what they did for the apbt.
     
  19. I don't have a dog in this fight. I would just like to compliment the owner of that beautiful pup.
     
  20. JoeBingo

    JoeBingo Banned

    I do not expect any reader of this forum, any past or present owner of Colby dogs, nor prospective new owners to become interested in dog fighting or testing their Colby breed dogs. I would ask no one to do so, especially to prove something to some Internet interloper.

    Vince Gill said it best, "There's No Future In The Past." Those few words encapsulate the fate of the APBT. The sport of dog fighting has always been illegal ... whether a misdemeanor or felony and as laws have stiffened, fewer and fewer dogmen are testing, breeding and culling as once was done. Yet, there are exponentially more APBTs today than EVER before and it seems everyone is an expert on how "it should be done". In spite of many/most bloodlines changes and evolution, BYBs and wannabes throwing two dogs together and those breeding for fads, there is one bloodline that has changed very little while in the hands of two (2) men for over 110 years ... Colby.

    In it's heyday, how many dogs do you suppose were actively involved in matching, as a percentage of all dogs bred and sold by all dogmen? I would say the percentage was very small. Why, John P. Colby alone, sold roughly 5,000 dogs ... do you think all those 5,000 dogs were tested? ... No they were not and neither were the vast majority of dogs sold by other fanciers and breeders. The point is, the vast majority of APBTs have ALWAYS been pets and pretty much regardless of bloodline. Just like that dog you feed right now.

    The honesty, integrity, purity and meticulous records of Colby bred dogs along with the Colby's stewardship of APBTs as all-around excellent dogs that have been featured in the pedigree of just about every APBT both past and present for over the last 110 years is an invaluable dog breed treasure and worthy of passing on in a pure and undiluted form. Time and fads have not changed the basics of the Colby bloodline.

    Regardless of the history and work of the APBT as a breed and Colby's far ranging and worldwide contributions and successes at those endeavors , Colby bred dogs regardless of accomplishments, remain first and foremost a loving and devoted dog whose characteristics temperament and traits will not disappoint MOST ... even as a pet and man's best friend. Thank you John and Lou Colby. Bless those who continue to strive and uphold the legacy of Colby APBTs. Amen (lol)
     
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