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Golden King CH Silver bloodline

Discussion in 'APBT Bloodlines' started by xlordxboris, Mar 31, 2015.

  1. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    no they are fat dogs .
     
  2. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    Ok they look fat which tells me even more so about thier climate not being even close to what we have here..Fat dogs fight better in colder weather !
     
  3. keystone

    keystone CH Dog

    harvest is peak time for matching.....
     
  4. Bones1

    Bones1 Big Dog

    What I notice from watching many of the matches Boris posted on the net. Almost all are during the winter so they need the extra weight , right. The rules in Balkans favor a particular style that's why most of their show are longer. The rules make the defensive dog appear better. Why don I say this? Well Boris stated they count on the dog out of hold. So if your head dogs is back peddling and the other one favors the chest but can't get it, they scratch. Ok , was he not pushing for the hold more than 3-10 seconds? Wait that doesn't mean shit he wants to quite lets scratch him. Cool he come out and your head dog goes back to the head peddling backwards again. Other still pushing for 3-10 out of hold. Who's turn is it to scratch? In the Cajun rules that head dog won't get to just ride the head for 2 hrs with out having his heart checked ever other turn. Weather that in 10 mins or 30. Just because you call a turn doesn't mean we stop right there an break the dogs. Like old G said "clean handle" both free of hold. Sometimes that can take as long as the match goes if the dog never lets go of his hold on the dog that turned. Just because he was controlling the fight doesn't mean he's a better dog. Reality is once he get's hit a few times his heart "might" flutter as now he's not just back peddling to keep from getting hurt an saying confident. History has shown the down dog can an will win. That doesn't happen in Balkans they go down they pretty are much down an out. Cajun rules make it's as fair as possible for the animals historically. The rules give him a chance to get back in there an show his grit ! On top of proving if the head dog has a good heart to match his preferred style.
    Balkan dogs are breed for their rules. USA Dogs are breed according to Cajun rules and the rules they us damn near everywhere except EU/China.
    Boris any EU come to the USA to compete , not Mexico or anywhere else but USA? Cuz there's a difference in climente when traveling to a neutral location(MX,Spain,Ecuador) versus into someone's back yard where their dogs stay 24/7 356. Come to any state in the south during spring time , and lets see how y'all do. One funny thing about your Tudor /Colby match is those men operated I two different decades. Armitage and Clark had shows in the 30's for more $$$ than US ppl made in a yr during those times. If we took the dogs from Ireland/England over a 100 yrs ago. When do they become ours(American)? You said after 3 gen. Guess what I can trace my dogs back to the first dogs imported to this country(USA) well over 20 gen....Can you ? Or was it because we were the first to show the pit dogs respect by giving them a stud book and recognition as a breed? Or Maybe because we molded them after the previous generation of game idividuals. We didn't make accommodation to the rules to benefit what we currently have , but Make rules to better the dogs over all. Your welcome for the "American" pit bull terrier. The best dog ever designed by man from Americas selective breeding programs. TG is an easy target. Name another kennel with more sporting clout than a high price puppy mill who buy's an breeds good dogs ,if you can.
    Who's dogs are better idk depends on the rules used. The old "country rules" might make it a little more even as that will eliminate your excuse in the handler advantage. Will y'all come out an play ?
    A
    Ps : just because you go into the same kennel more than once doesn't mean it was easy. Hell it can be more difficult as they know what they are up against. And will surly try to bring something that has what they thought it would take to win after losing the first time.
     
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  5. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    i do agree with this. best fights i saw was 1 or 1 and a half hour.


    that could be the story,i dont denie it and this wasnt even a topic. even i believe that is the case cause these dogs that went so long here (world record),i am not impressed by them,i believe some good dogs i mentioned before would stop them inside 1 and a half hours. I didnt post times cause i was impressed or cause i wanted to impress u,but cause 1 guy asked me and i gave him an answer. if u asked me to name u champs here,i would gave u a list,but that doesnt mean i believe every of them deserve ch tittle.

    golden king,serb kennel,brothers kennel, mr milan and i dont know... mak kennel. its hard,cause there is a lot of them,its several countries. but i would put it like this probably.


    and u take away every dog that has british origin and see how many dogs u motherfuckers have left to watch? oh wait,its none? Do u understand that ur country exist for how long? U dont have ur own language even,ur own culture,nothing. even land u live wasnt ur,what does this have to do with anything? balkan dogs doenst have only american origin,we have blood from holland 2 but right now,we have generations of breedings inside our own region. nobody denies that get our dogs from america,netherlands or some other countries,same as u cant denie that u get ur dogs from UK. so what? these dogs became what they r in balkan, in balkan competition and in hands of balkan dogmen. we dont avoid competition,we were in america,we were in soviet countries (more offten,cause its closer),we were in other parts of europe even if we dont have to,cause we have top dogs here.

    then why u dont do it and break the world record? atleast u will be remmember for this. these dogs had both legs and teeth,but weak mouth i guess and i am not impressed neither,but atleast i saw them. u r 1 who didnt saw them, didnt saw american fights and u claim here and talk about them in negative way?

    nothing but the respect for people like u... every post that was made without insults,i answered peaceful and respectful.
    cheers mate!

    I asked u nicely to post me a fight of a fat dogs in balkan in last 20 years and u didnt. i asked u twice. its shows me u cant show it and that u just to an empty talks...
    why do u talk if u dont have arguments? when ever u asked me something,i answered u with argument. when ever i asked u about something,u did empty talk. showed me u dont know about rules,u dont know about dogs,u dont know about results even in america. u r internet warrior,i guess?
    think urself how does it look to others when they read my post and then read ur when u dont back it up with nothing?

    now u again showed how u dont know the rules...
    u said "some dogs would keep going but if you took them to the line it didn't matter how good they were doing they may just stand there . maybe this is why ya'll changed the rules . so if the top dog quits you still win"

    and u proved u dont know what r u talkinga bout. top dog will win? if lower dog doesnt do the scretch,top dog still have to do it to win. he cant win without scretch,so u talk nonsense. all u said fall in the water now.

    major diffence btw cajun and balkan rules (russians also fought under balkan rules) is that in cajun, dogs get freshed many times,what makes them easier to continue. when ever they r out of hold,handler ask for turn,he fresh up dog and save his dog of getting damage and he even fresh up dog.

    in balkan, when dogs r out of hold,there is counting (no handler asking for turn), and for this counting,dog can make damage to opponent. then he go and scretch,but he still scretch. it only makes harder for dog if he take more damage and no refreshing.

    Now simple question and i am sure u wont answer again. when we matched into american dogmen,we matched under cajun. can u tell me how is that ur dogs mostly lose with ease? including dog of the years in america? how is that dog of the year in america,lost after 35 mins against DEFENSIVE dog and didnt survive the fight?
    how did we traveled to brasil on international show against american dogmen, our dogs threw up from travel and still won 3-1? how did captain america came here and lose? how did captain from thailand,who beat americans regulary came here and lose? they didnt fought under our rules,but under cajun. cajun is much much easier for our dogs... they keep getting refreshed many times.

    so we do understand dogs,we do post our fights even if its illegal here cause we doesnt have nothing to hide. even u can send fights over skype to folks in balkan or russia and they can upload fights on russian websites and u r sure,but u dont do it? why?
    nobody wont do nothing in russia,even if they do,all they can find is address of uploader and uploader is from balkan or russia.
    i have several american fights,how is that these guys can post and others cant? stop being ridiculous...

    as u cant find videos (what shows me u dont know what u talk about) i will help u:


    so find me a fat dogs pls.

    offcourse everything looks fatter on the camera,but still it doesnt look fat. somebody who have experience would know this (as u do). if i post fights of american dogs now,they will look the same
    well thats the problem with the guys who only saw fights on the internet... I mean even people who do agility contest know how to cut dogs weight and now proffesional dogmen dont know,but somehow they manage to win american dogs with fat dogs? Its funny...

    there was cajun fights over here,when there is international fights,its mostly in cajun and outcome is mostly the same,balkan dogs beat american.

    from what i know so far,balkan-america score is arround 7-3 for balkan and soviet countries-america is 2-0 from what i know,but there was definitly more fights then those,i just mentione
    r these dogs fat? expecially brindle one? he wasnt in pit weight for sure but not fat neither.

    and again,these guys can upload videos and others not? i can say these guys have bigger respect in my eyes then others. this is sport. sometimes u win,sometimes u lose,its normal. i respect more american guy who came to balkan and lost,then some people like garner (i didnt said i dont respect garner).
     
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  6. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    actually no. when they bring 1st pitbulls here,they didnt know about nothing offcourse. conditining was bad, open weight fights etc. it was 1st few years,then they found out rules and little edited them. not cause of fouling,but there is no real reason. they just tough its better other way arround.
    they lenghthen the show leading to more dogs dye after show? well thats hard question. why do u think that? in cajun, handler ask for scretch,he fresh up a dog a little and then they start from zero. opponent who got in better position with his skill, lose that advantage he got by his skill. thats not fair. losing dog get chance to start from zero again. now that happens everytime during scretch and happens in our rules 2 (u have to test dog does he want to continue or not) but there is much less scretches here,so we can say its more fair to the dog? in cajun,handler can turn the tide with this.
    now does this affects fights last longer? well dog get more damage in our rules,then in cajun,cause in cajun owner ask for scretch and he gets it. in our rules,dog in better position can atleast inflict some damage to the losing dog. more damage= he should be less ready to continue and fight should be shorter? but there is a fact our fight last longer then american ones,so maybe u r right or,dog tested gameness much harder inside our rules? then u get 2 dogs with low mouth and they break some records in long fights.
    in america,they fresh up dog every time and they finish fights sooner. but then when they match into us, they mostly lose inside 1 hour. i gave example of american dog of the year who got killed inside 35 mins by a dog with defensive style?!

    with last i agree. i dont think that america have bad or not competitive dogs. what i think is that they have low competition and they dont know which dogs there r really top. to know this,u have to fight top dogs. champs should fight champs. like this,many of them would lose their name,but those who stay would be proven top class.

    some of these champs can surely beat some of our champs,but like this,they mostly lose. not cause america have worse dogs,but cause they dont know which of their dogs r really top of the top....[/QUOTE]


    This opinion of your rule change was expressed to me by editors of gameness yu arena and by such people as zinetti and other Balkan dogmen.
    These Balkan rules are the first and only ones in the dogs history to allow sticks to be used to separate the dogs so the scratching can start. All other rules state free of holds.
    Think about it when you separate dogs with sticks your encouraging a dog to scratch more than free of holds. A dog could be thinking of quiting and his handler HAS to handle, a dog don't get the same excitement as separating with sticks gives them so is more likely to stop Imo. Cajun rules were written to shorten the contest by allowing frequent handling when dogs are free of holds your giving the dog more opportunity to stand or carry on.
    Next time ask Golden King to match in a neutral country to make it fair, let's see what happens then. He has been asked but wouldn't. I wouldn't brag to much on Kid beating TCF it shouldn't have happened period, as the TCF entry was completely messed up because of the travelling and being held at customs. TCF was told not to show but he continued and Kid beat a dog already beaten by travel.
     
  7. blueboy

    blueboy Big Dog

    Seen as fat dogs shown in Louisiana and Texas.
     
  8. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    american dogs look fatter in videos i posted there,right?

    actually its not most during the winter,there is shows in every month. kid had 3 fights in 1 year,u really think he did it all during winter? and they doesnt have extra weight cause of winter,they doesnt have extra weight in fights.

    at our rules lower dogs win many times. expecially dogs out of golden king who r mostly defensive and many times they get on their back.
    i know cajun bro... when 1 dog is out of hold and other is, that dog maybe stopped? offcourse we will put him on scretch to test it,to not force a dog to fight if he doesnt want to. and this is when he is innactive,we dont count if he is trying to push for the chest and he is out of hold,or if dog is working on his read and he cant grab a hold but he is trying etc.
    u asked me:
    "Cool he come out and your head dog goes back to the head peddling backwards again. Other still pushing for 3-10 out of hold. Who's turn is it to scratch? "

    well nobody,cause if i understand u,1 dog is pushing but is out of hold. he is active,its not like he doesnt trying to fight and that he is out of cold.
    here is example of dog pushing out of hold:
    Toske`s (EX)GR CH BLACK MUP vs Golden Kings CH SILVER POR (4 W, 1 L)

    now,u can see both dogs screthed at the end. 1 dog had closed eyes and didnt see where is other dog so he was counted. then other dog had to confirm scretch to win,but both had to scretch and both hearts r tested,right?

    we come everywhere to match but usa? usa cant guarantee safety,even most americans fight in mexico and u know it. even fbi works on this. u think climate in USA is worse then climate in brasil?

    i just gave example and there was time when both kept dogs for fight in same time. but i gave them as 1 example,there is many others. all of these famous gr ch and ch dogs there,went how many times in other ch or gr ch dogs?

    " Armitage and Clark had shows in the 30's for more $$$ than US ppl made in a yr during those times."

    cool,its like this in balkan in this momment. golden king in 1 show with kid goes in bigger money then people earn for a year (average salary) and he do 3 fights like this only with kid,and he match other dogs aswell... ;)

    i didnt said pitbull is balkan breed? u can trace ur dog back,yes,but the fact is that u get them from UK. now u say yes,we get them,but we gave them registry,we gave them rules etc.
    well ok,its true,but we gave them records,we gave many ch or gr ch vs ch or gr ch fights,we gave many records like longest fight,like biggest rom in europe,like only dog who manage to beat 3 gr ch and 1 ch during his life time,like dog who beat 2 gr ch and 2 ch during his life time etc. if america deserves credit for making registry and improving them,i think that balkan deserves also some credit for what we did? most of people here (95%) saw fights only on internet and who afford them to see these fights?
    everybody here,wouldnt see so many top gr ch and ch in their fights if there was no balkan dogmen,is it right?
    and we did it all for little less then 30 years of having pits and for 20 years of fighting under pro conditions.

    who have better dog depends on rules used? well what do u think,what rules was used in balkan vs america fights? when we traveled to brasil and dogs threw up and had fights like this,did we make some exuses or? no,we go there,fought under cajun and win with relativly easy.
    when they came here,we again won with relativly easy...
     
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  9. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    why do u think dogs get encouraged to continue when he think about quiting and owners put him on scretch by separating with stick? we have less scretches,what means dogs get that chance lesser times. in cajun,dogs get freshed more times then at our rules,what helps him to continue. also he take less damage before scretch what makes him easier to not thinking about quiting...

    zinetti is not that respected as u think, and owners of arena i know (previous and modern).

    golden king is probably going to spain in few months to be western guess there... they will probably fix something. what u should have in mind is that he is old man and he is definitly not open to travel the world,risk of being robbed or even worse with no friends in these parts of the world. before few years, on international show in mexico,guy was kidnapped,they took his car etc (cartels). why would he risk this? and if u mean neutral way,spain is neutral way...
    i was there when russians tryed to organise show with americans and asked lets meet in china,its closer to u then to us,americans refused. they said we can meet anywhere,but americans was open only for spain (we know they r close related to spain,expecially mexico) or coming to mexico? nothing else. i was there when they tryed to reach deal.
    tex mex went to soviet countries for show and he came with 2 kg over agreed weight and lost both fights.

    TCF made that exuse,but u should check it before saying that. he was here,had all the best conditions. he could cancel the fight but he didnt. nobody didnt force him and he was threated as the guess all the time.
    then u should ask WESTERN what does he think about this TCF exuse and u know that western is more oritented toward mexico and american dogs then europe. u ask him and then come here and say what did he say.
    golden king have nothing but respect for both,TCF and Western and he will probably be western guest in short period.

    TCF lost and he made exuses,but his dog had much much better conditions then serbian dogs who went to brasil and win 3-1. they threw up and fought like this,had less time to recover etc. People should be humble in defeat same as they r in victory...
     
  10. mitchm

    mitchm Pup

    Balkan Rules

    1. Referee
    Referee is chosen by contestants.
    Referee is in possession of key points and details of the match (weight, time, place, money, ...) and to any eventual changes of the rules. Also, the referee is in possession of the forfeit money.

    2. Fouls
    There are warning fouls and expulsion/disqualification fouls.
    Any foul that directly affects the outcome of the match is an expulsion foul.
    Warning fouls exist to regulate smaller offences that don't directly affect the match outcome and this results in a punishment scratch to the dog who's handler was warned. This scratch doesn't change the scratch sequence. It is possible to have three warning fouls, the fourth is an automatic disqualification.

    3. Coin toss
    A coin toss decides choice of corner, who washes first, ... as well as all other small choices that give an advantage to one side or the other.

    4. Scale
    What scale will rule will be in the agreement

    5. Weighing
    Reading of the scale will be the responsibility of the referee.
    Dog that is over agreed weight will lose forfeit.
    If both dogs are over agreed weight, forfeit money is returned with obligation to continue match.
    If both dogs are on weight, wagers are placed.

    6. Washing of dogs
    Dogs are washed with shampoo, baking soda, milk and water.
    It's best that each handler wash their own dog under supervision of opposing side to prevent accidental over washing of ears and shampoo in the eyes.

    7. Rinsing
    Only baking soda may be added in the rinsing.
    Towels should be exchanged, however it happens that an opponent will bring a bib only knowing the opponent won't use that, so it should be a key point specified in the agreement.

    8. Testing after the washing
    After the washing, each opponent may choose to lick the opponents dog.
    Any potential foul play will result in an automatic disqualification.

    9. Releasing the dogs
    Each handler holds his dog in their corner and must release on the referees command.
    Releasing early is not allowed; if it happens that the dog released early receives an advantage over opponent dog, he can be disqualified.

    10. Clothing
    Handlers may dress as they wish as long as it doesn't affect the opponent (example, black dog - black pants).

    11. Turning
    If one dog turns his head and chest from opponent when the fight is on, weather in holds or not, both handlers may claim a turn to the referee.
    The referee calls the turn or not.
    The dog that turned first must scratch first.
    After this dogs are picked up when not in holds and take turns scratching alternately; if during this time there are no foul scratches.
    Scratch to continue is not part of the alternate scratching and there is no refresh time in the corner.

    12. Handling after turning
    When dogs are separated each handler takes his dog to their respective corner.
    Behind the scratch line each handler may hold his dog how he wishes.
    Stop time should start when both dogs are in their corner which is when both handlers receive sponges.
    After 25 seconds the referee shall call to face the dogs.
    The dog whose turn it is to scratch must have all four legs on the ground.
    On the count of 30 the scratching dog must be released.
    Scratching dog has 10 seconds to make contact with his opponent.
    Handler of the scratching dog must remain behind his scratch line until his dog makes contact.
    The opposing handler must hold his dog to be fully visible to the scratching dog and may release his dog at the same moment the scratching dog is released, however he must release his dog when scratching dog makes contact.

    13. Handling
    Both handlers should behave in a sporting fashion at all times.
    Either handler may call foul play and the referees has final decision to accept the foul or not.

    14. Out of holds
    If the dogs are out of holds the referee counts to three (three full seconds) and if they are still out of hold the referee calls to handle your dogs.
    If the dogs take hold at this moment, break sticks are used to handle.
    If out of holds the dog that turned must scratch first.
    If there are no turns made, first dog to scratch is the dog who was out of holds first; it doesn't matter if said dog is bottom or top dog. If both dogs lose a hold at the same time, the first dog to scratch is the dog in a worse position (bottom dog).
    Dogs make scratches alternately.
    Referee counts to three each out of holds.
    Referee should not count if the dogs are active and avoiding but rather when they are truly out of holds.
    Dog that doesn't make his scratch in 10 seconds is the loser.
    If a dog doesn't go on his first scratch and the opposing dog has not scratched once, then he must scratch to win.

    15. Handling due to being fanged
    Handlers report a fanged dog to the referee, if he gets his teeth hung on his own lip; the referee makes the call.
    Referee should:
    1. Try to un-fang
    2. To allow the handlers to un-fang
    3. To call handlers to separate the dogs so the handler can un-fang
    If the dogs are separated because they are fanged, they are to be released at the center of the box 1.5 meters apart from one another.

    16. Wall jumping
    If a dog jumps the pit he is declared the loser.
    However, if the referee feels a dog jumped the wall because of outside interference, he can have the dogs released at the center of the ring as in the case of fangging.

    17. Size of ring
    Ring size is 4 meters x 4 meters.
    If both competitors agree and it's in their interest, ring size may be bigger.

    18. Interference
    If due to any reason the referee determines the match can't be continued, match is stopped and wagers are returned.
    If one side is to blame, wagers automatically go to the other side.

    19. Pay the referee
     
  11. bamaman

    bamaman GRCH Dog

    BORIS when it comes right down to it you show us dogs that are good for your climate and your rules..Doesnt mean they are best dogs in the world , just means they are good in your country...But yea I'm sure yall have your share of good ones over there.But you ccan't say best in the world unless it can be proven in a fair way.
     
  12. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    haha see stupid rules so a cur can win . and they sure don't need 2-3 kilos extra weight because it's cold . the 10 second scratch is anther way to keep a game dog from winning . and and 12 foot pit . you would think they would want a little room to work . these rules are a joke . and the hands should be on the chest to scratch fair . i always see the first release they will have 1 hand on them and usually raising their front feet off the ground a little . all are fouls .
     
  13. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    Dam Boris you say safety can't be guaranteed in USA yet you still can't understand why most smart people in the dogs here will not post videos. Smh make up your mind which extreme you want


    March isn't the only month for Madness!!
     
  14. ursaminor

    ursaminor Top Dog

    I would advise anyone not to click on those video links, you never know who gets a hold of your info.
     
  15. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    ok bris i haven't read everything but you ask me to show you fat dogs and well it only took 1 video to find them and here they are these are fat .
     
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  16. old goat

    old goat CH Dog

    now u again showed how u dont know the rules...
    u said "some dogs would keep going but if you took them to the line it didn't matter how good they were doing they may just stand there . maybe this is why ya'll changed the rules . so if the top dog quits you still win"


    if any dog quits top or bottom you loose . and it doesn't matter if he was top if it's his turn to go then he better move his ass . here the brindle is to heavy .



    know where did i ever say if it's out of hold that a top or bottom dog will win . if you don't scratch you loose unless it's a handle and it's your turn to go and you stand . see now i guess you don't know the rules before this is what you wrote .

    major diffence btw cajun and balkan rules (russians also fought under balkan rules) is that in cajun, dogs get freshed many times,what makes them easier to continue. ( when ever they r out of hold,handler ask for turn ) ,he fresh up dog and save his dog of getting damage and he even fresh up dog

    it's when a turn is called and you only do it 1 time bris if the ref says it's a turn then you handle when they are free of hold not call a turn because that's already been done .

    ok now here your are to this

    Now simple question and i am sure u wont answer again. when we matched into american dogmen,we matched under cajun. can u tell me how is that ur dogs mostly lose with ease? including dog of the years in america? how is that dog of the year in america,lost after 35 mins against DEFENSIVE dog and didnt survive the fight?
    how did we traveled to brasil on international show against american dogmen, our dogs threw up from travel and still won 3-1? how did captain america came here and lose? how did captain from thailand,who beat americans regulary came here and lose? they didnt fought under our rules,but under cajun. cajun is much much easier for our dogs... they keep getting refreshed many times.

    well bris i really can't tell you how they lost because i wasn't there . but most likely they were not good dog and not top people like you think they are . the 35 minute win could have been a good dog or a lucky shot , it happens . you traveled and won because the dogs you went into were curs or just couldn't take the travel . your dogs getting sick isn't sup prizing it happens when you travel . as long as your hydrated good your will be fine . well lets just say captain america may not be the best . and if your talking about the other captain and if it was Ben then your still not going into the best . he was good but not the best . boris i don't watch to many balkan shows because most are boring . if anyone post anything from here they are stupid and need to move .
     
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  17. Bones1

    Bones1 Big Dog

    I didn't watch all his shows. IDK maybe his first was when it's starting to get cold , 2nd was towards the middle/end , 3rd was and when it started to get cold again. 3 shows one 12 month year from start to finish all in cold weather.....this is speculation.
    I would guess maybe 10% compete completely in MX an those results are normally pretty easy to obtain. Just not via video or the net. It ain't exactly safe there either. What goes on state side is those ppl directly involved business and no one else's.
    Again until the Balkans come to the states an face the same traveling challenges the few Americans had to in traveling there. Than your claim of having the best is mute. As you haven't done what you expect other's to do, By traveling into their back yard.
    Facts are y'all changed the rules to suit your situation and compatition is thriving under them.
    Even with in the US there are dogs who do better in certain regions than others. I wouldn't expect the World to be any different. You should be proud of y'all's dogs. You've done good with the blood purchased from U.S./Nethderlands. As USA did with the first imports in the 1800's from Ireland/England.
    What's the Balkans record in MX ?
     
  18. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    r u retarded? if this american people,send their fights over skype to people in russia and then people in russia post on the internet,american people cant be caught. i already explained. if u dont understand it,then u r stupid or retarded... if americans can guarantee safety,half of them would go to mexico...

    well balkan isnt country,its several countries. then we match into soviet countries and have positive score and we match into americans and have positive score. it was 1 or 2 fights,it was 10+ with americans and even more with soviet countries and also europe.
    I didnt said usa dont have competitive dogs or that soviet countries dont have competitive dogs...


    u said that in balkan rules,top dog can win even if he is cur and i told u he still have to scretch to win. so if he made scretch,how is he cur? do u know what is cur?

    fight i posted,with brindle dog is american dogs... and u called them fat 2?
    i told u that on cam,dogs look heavier,same as american guy who saw them law said before me. i posted u videos of american dogs and they all looked fat. experienced guy would know this,but u obviously r not 1 of those.

    u again talk about cajun and i didnt talked about cajun,but i was reffering to ur post about balkan rule that top dog can be cur and win.

    aha,so u want to say that famous chosen few is not top kennel and that sdj dog of the year is not top dog? cool,now everybody here can laugh...
    and yes, probably some local guys from serbia,set up a fight with local guys from brasil and travel all the way across the ocean to fight local fights with average dogs... :D

    " you traveled and won because the dogs you went into were curs or just couldn't take the travel"
    aha,so u didnt saw the fights,but u know that dogs from brasil show were curs? and that couldnt take the travel? well they traveled far less then serbian dogs...
    captain america at that time (10 or 15+ years) was 1 among the top.

    u dont watch balkan show because they r boring. well which fights u watch? american not for sure,so which one? everybody serious kennel in america have more then respect for balkan dogmen and nobody of them doesnt watch us as we r bellow them,only as equal.
     
  19. xlordxboris

    xlordxboris goldenkingkennel2@gmail.com

    r u joking? website doesnt ask for any info,registering or anything. u just watch the video. there is no possible way of getting virus or something like that by watching video. just lol...

    i asure u there is shows every month. in this month golden king will have match. lol,this is not sibir in russia,we get temperatures of 40+ here. u can get 3 shows in 4 months... expecially not if u r going into 2xw dog,then gr ch then internacional champion.
    believe me on my word,fights r every month and dogs doesnt have extra fat cause of winter.

    well u said we didnt travel,but we did... i told u we traveled in brasil and won 3-1. it was smart kennel from serbia. then sparta kennel from ukraine was also in show in brasil and won 2-0. female from chico lopez jump out of pit after 20 mins! sparta kennel pepsi 3 beat ch from there.

    i mean nothing to take away from chico lopez,this guy have balls,he goes into ukraine,balkan,he host in brasil and then balkan and soviet dogmen go there and match and this is what sport is about. ok,he lost these shows,but atleast he wasnt hidding as most and he went and fought. he is real dogmen and his dogs r competitive for sure. sometimes u win,sometimes u lose,but if u dont try u dont know!

    in this brasil show,u have these countries:
    Ecuador, Brasil, Usa, Spain, Argentina, Peru, Serbia, Belgum,Mexico!

    So dont say some curs r there,or low caliber dogmen. these r real dogmen!

    balkan,expecially serbia have positive record against any country from what i know.
    Chico lives in brasil,so serbians went to his home,same as he later came to our home and same goes for ukraine dogmen and chico and i am sure they will continue this in the future.

    if anybody claim that chosen few is not top kennel in the world,then i can say that this guy doesnt have idea what he is talking about.
    ps: a lot of top dogmen keeps their dogs in mexico,cause its more safe for them...
     
  20. CajunBoulette

    CajunBoulette CH Dog

    You don't have to ask for any information to record an IP address. Quite simply Boris you just don't understand what it's like to own gamedogs stateside. It's not something that you broadcast about or take joy in telling the world anymore. It's something to be kept close to the vest and guarded, it's not meant to be recorded and blasted on the internet. Right now you guys are thriving because quite frankly with all the other problems going on over there, who gives a shit about dog fighting. But one things will be peaceful and you will find yourself targets of people with a "cause", I'm willing to bet when they start killing off all your dogs and throwing people in jail you'll probably back off that retarded ass logic that everybody should be posting videos and showing proof.


    March isn't the only month for Madness!!
     

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