New toy.

Well ... sorry, but that's brainwash Facts are ok, but science does not mean god-status.
Science is still going on, because not everything is known already. Science in the main place is just about money.
And sure, the pharma-industry does not like natural stuff like weed or honey, if it works.
So, who is going to pay for the big studies ? ...
There is a lot of studies going on for years now about Manuka. More and more hospitals worldwide are using Manuka.
Antibiotic-resistant bacteria are a real problem, and it's even getting bigger and bigger.
A few years ago Manuka was only half the price that it is today, china also heard about Manuka and buying all they can.
Of course, it's your choice what to use.
Hey New Zealand dogmen, tell us about manuka
Have you ever heard of krill-oil ? They still don't know all the things this stuff is able to do. One side-effect' and not much known about krill-oil, and I don't know if it's true or not, is with using krill-oil, people will never get an allergy again. Perhaps a krill-oil allergy, lol, but the rest should be ok.

 

there is also Sidr honey, they call it manuka of the middle east. produced mainly in Yemen which is a country to the south of saudi arabia.

 

I have Sidr honey, got it years ago from a good girl. She got it from Prince so and so. Couldn't believe what I saw when looking for info. This is real holy shit.
I got a pic in my head when I was reading about this stuff. A rich man of this area puts his dick in this 2000 dollar pot full of Sidr-honey and then watch his smile in his face
Sorry to all the rich men from that area But I couldn't resist.
Have not heard they call it manuka of the middle east. I know a honey (I have) from Nepal (?) is called god's nectar, and the Sidr is called Allah's nectar.
I do not use my small pot of Sidr (even if I don't have the biggest ...), I tried a bit, of course, but I'm waiting until I get the message you are going to die soon, then I will use it
Sidr is very special and one of a kind. Don't know, if it can be compared with Manuka.

Dogs, weed, rum, honey ... maybe it's time for a coffee-topic, too. lol Sulawesi Kalossi Grade 1

 

I saw a pic of that area, looked like a war zone.

 

It's not brainwashing. Antibiotics have been studied for well over 200 hundred years. They are used because they work and work very well. The proof is in the millions upon millions of test results, lab studies medical journals, trials etc..
It's been studied for many many decades to exhaust both independently as well as by the major companies. That's where the science becomes fact. Test results. Western medicine is top notch. Plenty of proof out there. There are no shortages of people who want to be doctors that come to the US specifically for medical schooling. Because It's second to none.

This discussion always reminds me of the Southpark episode on it lol. If you haven't seen it you should. It's not only funny but accurate as well.

People are free to rub sugar on their feet, and rosemary under your chins, I'll stick with time proven cures and treatments that are proven to work lol....

If they work for you then that's great. I just prefer actual medicine when I'm sick.

I can agree that holistics can be good on minor ailments and such but that's about it. Once you start talking about critical care, holistics are nothing more than witchcraft and old wives tales..

 

Big pharm is a catch 22.
Most days I hate them, that is, until I'm sick and/or in pain. Then they're my best friend lol.

 

I know I'm not trusting mine or my dogs health to Crystal's, honey, and "good vibes"....

 

Do you make things up as u go ? Lol prince gave her a honey .. and u have it but dont want to use it. Lol come on man .
any how.. it has same antibacterial as manuka. Arabs dont call it manuka of middle east, its westerners who do.
do the research.. I researched sidr manuka comparison For their antI bactrial agent. work same way.
Its not known as holy honey... its just a very good medicinal type of honey and its expensive. I tried it. Nothing to do with rich people and princes.. I was born in saudi arabia by tbe way.. sidr very well know there and traditional Shops sell them

 

How is it different than say store bought honey?

I've never heard of it so I'm curious. People always are talking about how good honey is for you lately. I just assumed they meant like store bought honey you can buy anywhere.

 

Honey from Manuka tree and sidr tree different from regular honey.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1319562X16300870

 

I know they using Manuka honey on wound dressings in hospitals now and doctors recently done a trial on C section wounds in our local university maternity, healing time was shortened significantly and scarring almost completely gone.. Having said that, I had some bad dog bites on my leg a few years back, cleaned the wounds out with betadine and Tea tree oil, then Manuka honey on the dressings and the wounds still got infected, had a bottle of aquarium Doxycycline I used on the dogs, took 100mg morning and night and infection cleared in a week.. Same when I had a recent urine infection, same dose for 7 days and infection cleared in a week.

Below some medical info on Manuka off NHS website.
https://www.nhs.uk/news/medication/can-honey-fight-superbugs-like-mrsa/

 

She 'bought' it at amazon or alibaba, and the guy he bought it from called himself prince so and so. The sidr I got has no label, is pretty dark and not really liquid. I believe she paid 50 € for 200 ml/ 6.7628us fl oz. And that was pretty cheap at that time.
I got it maybe 10 yrs ago and don't know what to use it for. That's why I keep it for later when I really need it. lol
I have never heard about sidr, so I was looking for online-info.
I found a pic of that area, where all of the beekeepers were armed, and it was said, this is to protect the honey.
Got on a page where they sold the sidr for 2000 €/kg. And I also saw that sidr is used as a aphrodisiac, and that's where I got that pic in my head. lol Sorry again.
https://www.questia.com/magazine/1G1-203026045/nectar-of-allah-honey-has-a-unique-place-in-islamic
https://honeycity.com.sg/yemen-sidr-honey-middle-easts-manuka-honey/
http://sidrhoney.tripod.com/id2.html
https://www.middleeasteye.net/features/yemens-honey-vendors-stung-war

I'm using manuka for 15 yrs already, at that time you could it only buy here from only one place. It was still a secret back then. Found the manuka through a horse page.
I'm sure that sidr is a great honey, maybe even better as manuka. Why not using both ?
Honey is great and a sweet medicine. They have found 5000 yrs old honey in pyramids or chambers ready to eat.
Save the bees !

 

its expensive but not that expensive, i think i can get 1kg for less then .. people in yemen and saudi buy 1 kg if sidr honey , and the wages there are like 700 usd a month. no one pays 2000 euro.

he is selling it in saudi for 80 USD a kilo
https://haraj.com.sa/1145700930/**3...67671**44449742**44344370**46809881**45367476

 

haraj means auction in arabic
the whole list of sidr for sale. i just wrote in arabic sidr honey for sale. and a saudi auction website came. i can read and write arabic so it was easy for me

https://haraj.com.sa/search.php?key=عسل+السدر+

 

I wonder what it cost to ship 1kg of honey from Saudi to EU or US?
1KG bag of Amoxicillin powder (500mg/g) cost around 100 dollars shipped from EU, so roughly same price as honey, just a question of what you prefer to use on dogs?

 

Amoxicillin everytime for me. With a bit of manuka Haha

 

The arabic writings look like art. That's all I can say.
Don't they like to sell the honey worldwide ?
80 usd/kilo sounds great. Has this 80 dollar stuff all of the medical benefits ? Or do they also have different qualities ?
Just like Manuka. Manuka honey - Manuka 100 MGO - Manuka 200 MGO - Manuka 400 MGO - Manuka 550 MGO. Like that ?

 

No they dont have it like manuka with all the gradings you just buy it and hope its read deal not mixed with other stuff. You just ask for a pure sidr honey.. thats it...

 

Clean honey is always good. Always better than sugar.
Manuka is known as a medical honey, but can't be sold as such. It's still honey.
In the us they are probably still using UMF (Unique Manuka Factor) with manuka. Here they changed it to MGO (Methylglyoxal).

https://export-x.com/manuka-honey-umf-to-mgo-calculator/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...oney-that-s-causing-legal-problems-in-the-u-s
https://www.comvita.com/blog-article/where-to-get-manuka-honey-in-us/4800187
https://www.manukadoctor.com/collections/manuka-honey
https://www.usamedicalsurgical.com/medihoney/
https://www.integralife.com/file/general/1543502479.pdf
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22398921/ns/health-health_care/t/honey-making-medical-comeback/
https://sigma.nursingrepository.org...d=8754550BAD44DA203102C6D95FC9A9A1?sequence=1
https://www.mdpi.com/2306-5354/5/2/46/htm

What about Royal Jelly ?
Royal Jelly is probably the top food in this world

 

@AGK is this master kit worth the $150?

https://www.eppinettesbulldogsupply.com/medical-cut-kit-wound-care-supplies/